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3dman27
05-02-2006, 06:34 AM
i havent seen a smackdown since the week after wrestlemania i hate the friday timeslot

and no ones home to record it form me like raw on mondays
why not pre program your vcr to tape it or are you worried about sports airing in there timeslotfootball,[basketball,baseball in some markets]:spidey: :thing: running overtime

The Ghoul
05-02-2006, 06:45 AM
not so well, they have maybe 9 regulars (Chaz, Warlord, Hack Meyers, Blackheart, Black Market, Modern Day Theory, Kahagas) They get good guys to fill the card (like Homicide/Low-ki & Briscoe Bros.) but not enough commitment to further any stories. The best fued they had was in 2004 Dennis Knight's (mideon) Family (feat. Dennis Knight as a satanic commune leader, the Warlord & the blackhearts... before the other blackheart left or soomething leaving a now solo 'blackheart' & myself confused) & the team of New Jack & Hack Meyers. Their unit just added Apollo before New Jack got arrested (we all know about that) & the story was cut short. But other than that, they also helped out Black Market. Before they werre called the Market Crashers & were a lame wallstreet/stockmarket gimmick. & MXPW is where they began acting like themselves, Changed their costumes & became Black Market. Two rugged thugs from New York. but that was all in 2004 when they had syndicated show here, but thatt was replaceed by WEW... repeats of WEW. other than that... nothing at all

Bad Superman
05-02-2006, 08:24 AM
Joey Styles "shoot" was the highlight of the night!!! I really hope some of those shots were out of script.

nite-owl
05-02-2006, 01:05 PM
This is why you all love nite-owl:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPWv_6A7VtE&search=joey%20styles

Eklypze
05-02-2006, 01:08 PM
dude thank you so much i accidently fell asleep during raw last nite and missed the shoot...nite-owl you are now my own personal jesus christ

Bad Superman
05-02-2006, 01:16 PM
That is a classic RAW moment.

OtepApe
05-02-2006, 01:28 PM
I don't watch Raw anymore, I don't like the product. But I have just seen the Joey Styles shoot and that was awesome television. He felt every word he was saying and has really make a good stepping stone for the ECW story.

Addendum
05-02-2006, 01:30 PM
I liked the guys behind King when Joey slapped slapped King.

"OH NO HE DIDN'T!"

nite-owl
05-02-2006, 02:16 PM
dude thank you so much i accidently fell asleep during raw last nite and missed the shoot...nite-owl you are now my own personal jesus christ

Personal Jesus eh? I think we found the first follower in nite-owlism.

Eric Draven
05-02-2006, 02:49 PM
Absolutely.

Other good points of Raw:

Foley's promo.
The Spirit Squad really seem to have developed as good heels. They've taken a crappy gimmick and made it work. Major props.
Maria bouncing around as a cheerleader and doing the Bronco Buster. :up:
Trips and HBK's ref segments, ecspecially the Conway squash.
Tag match with RVD/Carlito and Benjamin/Masters.

Overall, a diamond in the rough good Raw.

Yeah, it was probably one of the best Raws in a looong time. I enjoyed almost every bit of the show. Loved the slow development of Shawn and Triple H into DX, anything with the Spirit Squad, the start of a full Haas-Benjamin feud....

The Techno Bat
05-02-2006, 02:59 PM
Joey Styles "shoot" was the highlight of the night!!! I really hope some of those shots were out of script.

^ Best part of the night, and he made alot of sense and great points....

Eklypze
05-02-2006, 03:06 PM
anyone else think maybe styles shouldnt have said that stuff about the fans right there at the end? it seems like it might bring a little negative heat on ECW. and wasnt it just great the way he said " Im not good enough FOR BACKLASH?!?!!?" haha that was awesome

Sarge 2.0
05-02-2006, 03:07 PM
That is a classic RAW moment.Absolutely.

Other good points of Raw:

Foley's promo.
The Spirit Squad really seem to have developed as good heels. They've taken a crappy gimmick and made it work. Major props.
Maria bouncing around as a cheerleader and doing the Bronco Buster. :up:
Trips and HBK's ref segments, ecspecially the Conway squash.
Tag match with RVD/Carlito and Benjamin/Masters.

Overall, a diamond in the rough good Raw.

Addendum
05-02-2006, 03:13 PM
Keep in mind that the crowd Joey was in front of wasn't Chicago after Wrestlemania. Columbus cheered for Cena like crazy.

Sarge 2.0
05-02-2006, 03:15 PM
Keep in mind that the crowd Joey was in front of wasn't Chicago after Wrestlemania. Columbus cheered for Cena like crazy.Yeah, if he was in Philadelphia, Canada, NY, or Chicago he'd get a standing ovation. :o

Warhammer
05-02-2006, 03:57 PM
Yeah, if he was in Philadelphia, Canada, NY, or Chicago he'd get a standing ovation. :o

Golden. :up:


Columbus, as a whole, let me down last night.
It was a great "Shoot", even though I know he meant just about all of it.

The Ghoul
05-02-2006, 07:06 PM
Thanks to youtube, We all can be as powerful Hunter. And for all of you (but mostly Spider-Nerd who doesn't know how good Spanky is,) I found a Zero-1 match with Spanky & Alex Shelley in a straight up chain wrestling match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCLdRNhu9GA&search=ROH%20Alex%20Shelley

The FallenAngel
05-02-2006, 08:13 PM
Thanks for the match, Ghoul. It was great.

DOG LIPS
05-02-2006, 08:14 PM
Yeah, it was probably one of the best Raws in a looong time. I enjoyed almost every bit of the show. Loved the slow development of Shawn and Triple H into DX, anything with the Spirit Squad, the start of a full Haas-Benjamin feud....
I agree, and the HBK May 19th **** was funny as hell. :up:

NDX
05-02-2006, 09:19 PM
Thanks to youtube, We all can be as powerful Hunter. And for all of you (but mostly Spider-Nerd who doesn't know how good Spanky is,) I found a Zero-1 match with Spanky & Alex Shelley in a straight up chain wrestling match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCLdRNhu9GA&search=ROH%20Alex%20Shelley

Now, can you get that on Megaupload somehow?

Really looking forward to a fulltime Haas-Benjamin feud. I've been waiting a long time for this. Even though Haas was only used twice last night is small parts, it was still good to see WWE focusing in on him as a character and wrestler.

The Ghoul
05-02-2006, 10:10 PM
Now, can you get that on Megaupload somehow?

I just found it. My computer sucks so bad that even having videos to upload would crash it. which is why i love youtube

NDX
05-02-2006, 11:27 PM
- The general feeling is that the Deep South Wrestling promotion has been a disaster from day one. The talk is that DSW is in danger of being dropped as a developmental territory.

- The unlicensed wrestler that caused Ohio Valley Wrestling to be fined was Joey Knight, who is developmental diva Beth Phoenix's husband.

- With Paul Heyman working on the new ECW project, Tommy Dreamer and Ed Koskey is assisting Heyman writing for OVW.

- WWE is interested in purchasing the OVW video library. Dave Meltzer also reports that WWE is also seeking the Stampede Wrestling video library.


information from the Wrestling Observer Newsletter was used in this report

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To follow up on a report earlier about WWE employees and wrestlers being very surprised about what Joey Styles was allowed to say in his promo on RAW last night about "quitting" the RAW announce team, it should be noted that Styles wrote the promo himself, submitted it to the creative department and it was later approved. Despite some staff being surprised by it, WWE management was said to be very pleased with how it went and felt it was a good way to kick off the new ECW brand in the coming weeks.

One funny thing to note about Styles' promo was that many people wondered how the same WWE creative team could write something like that, yet write things like "boogers" and "poop" the night before at the Backlash PPV. As noted above, the extremely (no pun intended) well done promo was indeed written by Styles and not the WWE creative team.

Based on what is known, Sabu was not backstage at the RAW taping last night in Columbus, OH. There were reports earlier this week stating that he could have possibly been meeting with WWE officials regarding the new ECW brand.

Credit: Dave Scherer @ PWInsider.com

According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, WWE has signed the daughter of Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart, Nattie Neidhart, to a developmental deal.

Shortly after Wrestlemania, WWE signed Harry Smith, the son of Davey Boy Smith and Nattie's first cousin

The Ghoul
05-02-2006, 11:57 PM
- The general feeling is that the Deep South Wrestling promotion has been a disaster from day one. The talk is that DSW is in danger of being dropped as a developmental territory.

- The unlicensed wrestler that caused Ohio Valley Wrestling to be fined was Joey Knight, who is developmental diva Beth Phoenix's husband.

- With Paul Heyman working on the new ECW project, Tommy Dreamer and Ed Koskey is assisting Heyman writing for OVW.

- WWE is interested in purchasing the OVW video library. Dave Meltzer also reports that WWE is also seeking the Stampede Wrestling video library.


information from the Wrestling Observer Newsletter was used in this report

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To follow up on a report earlier about WWE employees and wrestlers being very surprised about what Joey Styles was allowed to say in his promo on RAW last night about "quitting" the RAW announce team, it should be noted that Styles wrote the promo himself, submitted it to the creative department and it was later approved. Despite some staff being surprised by it, WWE management was said to be very pleased with how it went and felt it was a good way to kick off the new ECW brand in the coming weeks.

One funny thing to note about Styles' promo was that many people wondered how the same WWE creative team could write something like that, yet write things like "boogers" and "poop" the night before at the Backlash PPV. As noted above, the extremely (no pun intended) well done promo was indeed written by Styles and not the WWE creative team.

Based on what is known, Sabu was not backstage at the RAW taping last night in Columbus, OH. There were reports earlier this week stating that he could have possibly been meeting with WWE officials regarding the new ECW brand.

Credit: Dave Scherer @ PWInsider.com

According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, WWE has signed the daughter of Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart, Nattie Neidhart, to a developmental deal.

Shortly after Wrestlemania, WWE signed Harry Smith, the son of Davey Boy Smith and Nattie's first cousin

:up: :up: All good from here. Probebly only Hugh Moris is upset by the DSW news. & imagine if WWE started putting out OVW dvds. That would be the ****. The fact Joey wrote that promo, makes it even more special.

NDX
05-03-2006, 12:20 AM
Yeah, reading that Joey wrote the speech AND that WWE approved it really made me feel good to read, and just made the shoot feel to that much more present. It was more than a breath of fresh air.

OVW dvds are something I've wanted for a while now without having to buy dvd-rs (which is hard for me to play).

I'm also interested to see how Nattie Neidhart comes out, I've read a lot of good about her. Could really add some actual wrestling to the women's division.

Eric Draven
05-03-2006, 12:24 AM
According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, WWE has signed the daughter of Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart, Nattie Neidhart, to a developmental deal.

Shortly after Wrestlemania, WWE signed Harry Smith, the son of Davey Boy Smith and Nattie's first cousin

If they sign Teddy Hart as well, it looks like we might be getting the New Hart Foundation forming....

NDX
05-03-2006, 12:28 AM
If they sign Teddy Hart as well, it looks like we might be getting the New Hart Foundation forming....

But I really hate Teddy Hart and don't want him anywhere near the WWE, as much as a New Hart Foundation sounds appealing.

Eric Draven
05-03-2006, 12:29 AM
Yeah, Teddy Hart seems to be another Randy Orton-type douchebag from what I'm hearing. But the WWE seems a bit interested in him. How about Jack Evans though? I think he's married to one of the Harts so he's technically a Hart member. :confused:

NDX
05-03-2006, 12:51 AM
I'm not much on Evans because he looks, to me, sloppy in the ring. But then again, the one match I saw of his live he took on Trent Acid in a cluster**** of bad wrestling. At least that's how I felt. Oddly enough, that was the day I started hating Trent Acid with a passion, too. Go figure. What I have seen of Evans as of late though has been entertaining.

Although I'd pick Evans over Hart easily. Hart has, or many occassions, ****ed USA Pro/UXW by taking money and no showing events, to the point where Goodman had to get Hart's father involved in the matter. Hart is a real ****, and in my opinion, could be a better wrestler. Great spots, but could be better.

Sarge 2.0
05-03-2006, 12:54 AM
I'm not much on Evans because he looks, to me, sloppy in the ring. But then again, the one match I saw of his live he took on Trent Acid in a cluster**** of bad wrestling. At least that's how I felt. Oddly enough, that was the day I started hating Trent Acid with a passion, too. Go figure. What I have seen of Evans as of late though has been entertaining.

Although I'd pick Evans over Hart easily. Hart has, or many occassions, ****ed USA Pro/UXW by taking money and no showing events, to the point where Goodman had to get Hart's father involved in the matter. Hart is a real ****, and in my opinion, could be a better wrestler. Great spots, but could be better.Evans is pretty much a spot monkey, but he's the most polished and entertaining spot monkey in the biz. :o

NDX
05-03-2006, 12:59 AM
A spot monkey Evans may be, but he is more refined a performer than Hart. Although I doubt both would make it WWE, although I read WWE is willing to get guys like them from ROH and CZW for ECW. Might be the right place for them.

Still want to see CM Punk in ECW when it returns.

Sarge 2.0
05-03-2006, 01:02 AM
Actually, I think it would be pretty cool if ECW did cross promoting with CZW, or possibly ROH. CZW could basically be their XPW, but not as distasteful and crappy.

Eric Draven
05-03-2006, 01:10 AM
Although I'd pick Evans over Hart easily. Hart has, or many occassions, ****ed USA Pro/UXW by taking money and no showing events, to the point where Goodman had to get Hart's father involved in the matter. Hart is a real ****, and in my opinion, could be a better wrestler. Great spots, but could be better.

Yeah, I heard that he only cares about the spots he can make, screw anybody else. He's always trying to make himself look good over anybody else.

I could kind of see WWE signing Hart just to form a new Hart Foundation. But like Juvi, I could see the WWE releasing him after a couple of months......

Prognosticator
05-03-2006, 01:30 AM
Okay, I keep falling behind EVERY WEEK and i'm on my own nerves at this point, but i just watched RAW tonight and Joey Styles went out in a blaze of glory! That speech was the best thing he's brought to the table since his stint began on RAW, and a real throwback to some of his early stuff!

Prognosticator
05-03-2006, 01:32 AM
Furthermore, I thought I was in for a terrible viewing when Vince announced the SS would be GMs. I was ready to phone it in, but as the evening progressed "they" made some interesting matches out of the same roster as usual, and by night's end not only was i thoroughly surprised, but I was very pleased with the way things went down overall... Does anyone care to rehash any of it even though i'm a day late and a dollar short?

Hunter Rider
05-03-2006, 05:55 AM
WWE have been thinking about removing Jonathan Coachman from the commentary team, thus making him a talent. Coachman didn't call Raw last night, nor the Backlash pay-per-view. Considering that Thea Vidale (Shelton's Momma) will more than likely not be brought back, he may become Shelton Benjamin's manager.

source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Hunter Rider
05-03-2006, 06:11 AM
May 3rd: The main event for 6/17 back at the New Yorker Hotel in Manhattan has been signed. Last time in Manhattan, KENTA teamed with Naomichi Marufuji to defeat Bryan Danielson & Samoa Joe in a battle of the "Best In The World." There was obvious heat between Joe and KENTA. Joe also wants Danielson's World Title and is upset that Danielson took the fall in the tag match. Danielson wants to avenge his loss to KENTA. KENTA has also made waves about going after Danielson's World Title. So on 6/17 you will see one of the most explosive matches ever. It will be Bryan Danielson vs. Samoa Joe vs. KENTA in a one fall three-way. Pride will be on the line in this one as once again the best in the world collide in NYC.


http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif:up: :up:

3dman27
05-03-2006, 06:20 AM
WWE have been thinking about removing Jonathan Coachman from the commentary team, thus making him a talent. Coachman didn't call Raw last night, nor the Backlash pay-per-view. Considering that Thea Vidale (Shelton's Momma) will more than likely not be brought back, he may become Shelton Benjamin's manager.

source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

that sounds like it should work
btw whats a spot monkey the posts keep mentioning it but i'm unfamiliar with the term what does it mean?

Mister J
05-03-2006, 08:12 AM
A spot monkey is someone who uses a lot of high-spots (high flying, acrobatics, visually impressive moves, etc.) in their matches; sometimes to the detriment of the overall flow of the match.

At least that's how I've used it.

Bad Superman
05-03-2006, 08:41 AM
WWE have been thinking about removing Jonathan Coachman from the commentary team, thus making him a talent. Coachman didn't call Raw last night, nor the Backlash pay-per-view. Considering that Thea Vidale (Shelton's Momma) will more than likely not be brought back, he may become Shelton Benjamin's manager.

source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter


Good! I never liked Coach's commentary. I don't know why he's been pushed so heavily. The guy is very annoying.

DOG LIPS
05-03-2006, 10:13 AM
Good! I never liked Coach's commentary. I don't know why he's been pushed so heavily. The guy is very annoying.
Yeah, I think he's just annoying enough to be a good heel manager. I never liked his commentary much either, but Todd what's-his-face must go! :mad:

citizenpain
05-03-2006, 11:15 AM
yeah, coach is totally annoying on commentary. he's a great charater tho so he'll be far better off as just a talent, especially managing someone like shelton benjamin. and on the contrary todd (what's-his-face) grisham isn't all that bad. he's pretty damn funny at times.

The FallenAngel
05-03-2006, 11:17 AM
May 3rd: The main event for 6/17 back at the New Yorker Hotel in Manhattan has been signed. Last time in Manhattan, KENTA teamed with Naomichi Marufuji to defeat Bryan Danielson & Samoa Joe in a battle of the "Best In The World." There was obvious heat between Joe and KENTA. Joe also wants Danielson's World Title and is upset that Danielson took the fall in the tag match. Danielson wants to avenge his loss to KENTA. KENTA has also made waves about going after Danielson's World Title. So on 6/17 you will see one of the most explosive matches ever. It will be Bryan Danielson vs. Samoa Joe vs. KENTA in a one fall three-way. Pride will be on the line in this one as once again the best in the world collide in NYC.


http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif:up: :up:I was just about to post this here. That match will be...I don't know the word. Damn ROH for what they're doing to my wallet. I'm gonna be poor soon. :(

The_Mystery
05-03-2006, 11:54 AM
The Hell does Shelton Benjamin need with a damn manager. He can speak just fine when given the chance.

Bad Superman
05-03-2006, 12:10 PM
Yeah, I think he's just annoying enough to be a good heel manager. I never liked his commentary much either, but Todd what's-his-face must go! :mad:

I read somewhere next week J.R. will return for commentary. Personally I wouldn't go back to work to the place that had me humilliated and fired for discriminatory reasons, unless his new contract has a few demands and a healthy raise from his previous check.

DOG LIPS
05-03-2006, 12:12 PM
I read somewhere next week J.R. will return for commentary. Personally I wouldn't go back to work to the place that had me humilliated and fired for discriminatory reasons, unless his new contract has a few demands and a healthy raise from his previous check.
I'm sure it does, and no offense to the old cowboy, but what else is he going to do for money? Strip? :(

Bad Superman
05-03-2006, 12:40 PM
I'm sure it does, and no offense to the old cowboy, but what else is he going to do for money? Strip? :(

I thought his BBQ sauce and cookbook were doing good. . . . .:D

DOG LIPS
05-03-2006, 12:56 PM
I thought his BBQ sauce and cookbook were doing good. . . . .:D
True... that is some DAMN good BBQ sauce. :O:up:

Eklypze
05-03-2006, 01:17 PM
maybe Coach could be The Spirit Squads "coach" wouldnt that just be great lmao

3dman27
05-03-2006, 01:18 PM
how appropo

Bad Superman
05-03-2006, 01:39 PM
And Matt Stryker as the teacher? . . . . **vomits**

Eklypze
05-03-2006, 01:42 PM
On the Canadian Viewer's Choice website, in a promo for the June Vengeance PPV, it states the following:
"DX, the degenerates that started the Attitude Era, will reunite at Vengeance ­ Are You Ready? Don't miss a minute of the live action as RAW presents WWE's Vengeance, Sunday, June 25th at 8pm ET/5pm PT, live and only on Pay-Per-View. A World Wrestling Entertainment Production. Go to wwe.com for more details. See It All On Viewers Choice!"
While I don't know for sure that this means DX will be reformed at or by this show, I do know that there has been a lot of talk of doing so internally, as evidenced by Shawn Michaels and Triple H's actions on recent TV. I also know that this wouldn't be the first time that someone in WWE marketing released something before they were supposed to. In addition to that, Triple H is now said to be receptive to turning babyface.
source-pwinsider.com:eek: :eek:

Prognosticator
05-03-2006, 01:59 PM
Freeeeekin Sweet!!!!

Bad Superman
05-03-2006, 02:46 PM
Let the member speculation begin:

Founders:

*Triple H
*Shawn Michaels

Possible new members:

*Carlito?
*The Spirit Squad Tag-Team Champion members?

DOG LIPS
05-03-2006, 02:47 PM
What are the possibilites of X-Pac returning? Where is he anyway?

Bad Superman
05-03-2006, 03:06 PM
Last time I heard he was in negotiations with TNA, but that was about two months ago.

DOG LIPS
05-03-2006, 03:07 PM
Last time I saw him was on that VH1 Surreal Life or whatever, and he was drunk and he had a beer gut. :(

The FallenAngel
05-03-2006, 03:08 PM
He was at TNA Final Resolution and beat Raven. Then he never showed up again. I heard him and Nash wanted to go back as a tag-team, but TNA showed no interest.

3dman27
05-03-2006, 03:09 PM
thanks

Prognosticator
05-03-2006, 03:10 PM
What are the possibilites of X-Pac returning? Where is he anyway?

absoluty NOT! he's in terrible condition. plus, he's got a real problem with drugs and alcohol. he's practically a low-life at this point and neither H nor HBK should sink down and bring him in.

plus, he's too old now to be a supporter. b/f he was kind of "the kid" but now he's just a wasted loser.:down

Prognosticator
05-03-2006, 03:13 PM
Let the member speculation begin:

Founders:

*Triple H
*Shawn Michaels

Possible new members:

*Carlito?
*The Spirit Squad Tag-Team Champion members?

Carlito? ABSOLUTELY!
Spirit Squad? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

they aren't the kind of heels you route for:down they aren't cool enough to be DX right now, some of them NEVER. Plus, if DX is ruining Vince's life again, he needs someone to fight on his side; a-la Spirit Squad.

Prognosticator
05-03-2006, 03:15 PM
Carlito's COOL though. and he's definitely getting better on the mike. he'd be a good 'young gun' for the group. i'd buy a t-shirt of his then.

DOG LIPS
05-03-2006, 03:15 PM
Yeah, I can see a DX/SS feud. Carlito needs some work, but his change is actually making him a great candidate for DX IMHO.

The FallenAngel
05-03-2006, 03:18 PM
I can see Edge in DX, but he works better as a heel, IMO. He just has that raunchy feel to him that DX is all about.

Bad Superman
05-03-2006, 03:20 PM
OK so Triple H and HBK are in. Carlito would be accepted. :up:

Well, we need a Tag-Team for DX. Any thoughts?

Bad Superman
05-03-2006, 03:21 PM
I can see Edge in DX, but he works better as a heel, IMO. He just has that raunchy feel to him that DX is all about.

And if he joins that would take him out of the World title picture. :down

DOG LIPS
05-03-2006, 03:21 PM
OK so Triple H and HBK are in. Carlito would be accepted. :up:

Well, we need a Tag-Team for DX. Any thoughts?
Snitsky and Golddust.














I keed! I keed!

The Apatow Crew
05-03-2006, 03:24 PM
http://i2.tinypic.com/x3sfgo.gif

LET'S GET READY TO........SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Bad Superman
05-03-2006, 03:26 PM
Snitsky and Golddust.














I keed! I keed!

:D :up:

Prognosticator
05-03-2006, 03:26 PM
They need someone HOT!!! and since she sucks as a wrestler right now, there's NO ONE better than Torrie Wilson for DX!! ...Unless Lita left Edge (which might be good if not interesting storywise)

The Apatow Crew
05-03-2006, 03:27 PM
The Odd Squad vs The Spirit Squad

Bad Superman
05-03-2006, 03:28 PM
What if MNM are traded to RAW?

Prognosticator
05-03-2006, 03:29 PM
OK so Triple H and HBK are in. Carlito would be accepted. :up:

Well, we need a Tag-Team for DX. Any thoughts?

I don't want to force Carlito into a Tag-Team situation since he just got out of one, so i'm gonna say no tag team at first. let it be a small group of cool guys who eventually can grow IF the need arises. no need in forcing people into DX that don't quite fit the bill?

DOG LIPS
05-03-2006, 03:29 PM
They need Maria in DX. Simply because my pants would explode everytime she screamed "Suck it!" and choped her crotch. :eek::up:

The FallenAngel
05-03-2006, 03:31 PM
No one here wants to here about your pants exploding, DOG LIPS! :mad:

DOG LIPS
05-03-2006, 03:33 PM
No one here wants to here about your pants exploding, DOG LIPS! :mad:
Sabretooth does. :(

The FallenAngel
05-03-2006, 03:35 PM
Well Sabretooth is...Sabretooth. I'm not surprised. :(

Donnie Darko
05-03-2006, 03:36 PM
They need someone HOT!!! and since she sucks as a wrestler right now, there's NO ONE better than Torrie Wilson for DX!! ...Unless Lita left Edge (which might be good if not interesting storywise)

I think the best diva fit for the group (unless they want to go with a huge bodyguard manly chick again like Chyna) would be Ashley. She had that kind of bad girl look to her a lot of the time.

Jason Blood
05-03-2006, 03:51 PM
thank god we won't be seeing Ashley for a long time

she needs to heal up and trained to the point where she doesn't botch moves anymore

Mickie needs to be in DX

Prognosticator
05-03-2006, 03:56 PM
I think the best diva fit for the group (unless they want to go with a huge bodyguard manly chick again like Chyna) would be Ashley. She had that kind of bad girl look to her a lot of the time.

Yeah, i keep forgetting about Ashley. she'd be perfect! although i agree about Maria giving crotch chops...but Maria isn't hardcore enough for DX.

Sabretooth
05-03-2006, 03:56 PM
I'd accept Carlito in DX. He'd be like this generation's X-Pac or Razor Ramon :up:

Prognosticator
05-03-2006, 03:58 PM
ashley needs way more personality though! i'd say it'd be a rush to put her in there too.

Just make it a boys club for a while! those three guys are too cool for the current wwe women anyhow

The FallenAngel
05-03-2006, 03:58 PM
CM Punk for DX. :up:

Prognosticator
05-03-2006, 03:59 PM
I'd accept Carlito in DX. He'd be like this generation's X-Pac or Razor Ramon :up:

he's got the perfect amount of sarcasm/carisma mixed with face/heel appeal; that's DX to a T!

The Apatow Crew
05-03-2006, 04:04 PM
Yeah, i keep forgetting about Ashley. she'd be perfect! although i agree about Maria giving crotch chops...but Maria isn't hardcore enough for DX.but she could just go around giving broco busters to everybody.

Eric Draven
05-03-2006, 04:09 PM
CM Punk would be interesting in DX. But I could also see Kenny as a member of DX in the future.....:o

The Batman
05-03-2006, 04:10 PM
I can see Edge in DX, but he works better as a heel, IMO. He just has that raunchy feel to him that DX is all about.

Especially with the rated R superstar gimmick, and the way he shoots on people with "Cutting edge"

Eric Draven
05-03-2006, 04:21 PM
To be honest, everything on Raw can go any way. I mean with the reformation of DX, we could see Kenny and the SS leader maybe join DX. And this could also trigger a Cena heel turn and an alliance with the remaining SS members as part of McMahon's new "Corporation".

Sabretooth
05-03-2006, 04:53 PM
CM Punk would be interesting in DX. But I could also see Kenny as a member of DX in the future.....:o
Triple H and HBK hate his guts,and since they'd be calling the shots in DX I doubt they'd allow Punk in. And I'd like to keep all the SS members together for now. We haven't seen nearly enough of them at this point to just break them up. And by taking away two or three members,no more revolving tag team champs. :(

DOG LIPS
05-03-2006, 04:54 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Eduh0vsUQmE&search=DX

DOG LIPS
05-03-2006, 04:55 PM
Dammit, get Mr. Kennedy on DX, NOW! :mad:


:p

Sabretooth
05-03-2006, 04:58 PM
Dammit, get Mr. Kennedy on DX, NOW! :mad:


:p
Actually,I'd like to see that. :up:


But then he wouldn't be on Smackdown :(

The Apatow Crew
05-03-2006, 04:58 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Eduh0vsUQmE&search=DX

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! AND IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE I'M NOT A NUGGET I'M A BAD HEART DAMNIT! WOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND WHAT JUST WHAT HELL IS UP WITH ME NOSE!

Eklypze
05-03-2006, 04:58 PM
i think Mickie would be awesome in DX

Eklypze
05-03-2006, 05:02 PM
who was that impersonating owen?? that **** was funny as hell oh how i miss those days

Sabretooth
05-03-2006, 05:04 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Eduh0vsUQmE&search=DX
''Look at me! I look like a god damn road sign!'' :D

The Apatow Crew
05-03-2006, 05:05 PM
who was that impersonating owen?? that **** was funny as hell oh how i miss those daysi think the kids name was jason. i forget his last name.

The Apatow Crew
05-03-2006, 05:05 PM
''Look at me! I look like a god damn road sign!'' :Dwhat i'm i a school crossing?:)

Eklypze
05-03-2006, 05:07 PM
am i an ardvark?!?!?

The Apatow Crew
05-03-2006, 05:08 PM
i tried to be a tough guy but i just couldn't get my beard to grow in.

Eric Draven
05-03-2006, 05:18 PM
Triple H and HBK hate his guts,and since they'd be calling the shots in DX I doubt they'd allow Punk in. And I'd like to keep all the SS members together for now. We haven't seen nearly enough of them at this point to just break them up. And by taking away two or three members,no more revolving tag team champs. :(

Just as well, Punk would be better off in ECW anyways.

But breaking up the SS might be the impetus to actually do something with the tag division. You could have former SS members feud for the tag-titles and it would give Nicky an opportunity to step up as the SS leader :up:

Addendum
05-03-2006, 05:18 PM
who was that impersonating owen?? that **** was funny as hell oh how i miss those days
Jason Sensation

Eric Draven
05-03-2006, 05:18 PM
i think the kids name was jason. i forget his last name.

Jason Sensation. He also did a pretty funny Shawn Michaels imitation when DX impersonated the Corporation....

Eklypze
05-03-2006, 05:23 PM
just how do you get your pecks to go all the way around like that?

The Apatow Crew
05-03-2006, 05:29 PM
if anyone can smell what the rock is cooking it's me. look at how damn big my nose is!'

Eklypze
05-03-2006, 05:36 PM
This should come as a shock to no one. Viewer's Choice Canada has pulled the verbiage from their website, which we posted earlier today, where they talked about DX reuniting at June's Vengeance PPV. I talked to two WWE sources who confirmed to me that that what was written on the Viewer's Choice website is indeed the current plan.

They also told me that WWE management was not happy that it was posted there, effectively letting the secret our early (though I think anyone who watched Raw recently could see that the reunion was going to happen).

source-pwinsider.com

DOG LIPS
05-03-2006, 05:37 PM
Great, now Vince will change it to "shock" the people who thought that was going to happen. :(

Eklypze
05-03-2006, 05:37 PM
so i guess this mean YAY!!

Addendum
05-03-2006, 05:43 PM
Alright- so DX is reforming, Kane is becoming a big red machine (May 19th) even though it's probably just to plug some movie (May 19th), and since Vince beat "god" his "corporation" cannot be stopped.

Now we just need some guy drinking beers, and maybe a couple elements I'm forgetting and it's a re-vamped "Attitude era".

Although, I wanted the Attitude era to continue even when WCW was bought out 5 years ago

Mister J
05-03-2006, 05:47 PM
I still don't know what to make of this DX thing. It'll be interesting to see how (if) it plays out.

Eklypze
05-03-2006, 07:41 PM
On Nattie Neidhart's official website, she denies signing with WWE despite numerous internet reports. The following statement was posted:

"Nattie Neidhart would like to announce that despite rumours on various news sites on the internet, she hasn't signed any developmental deal with World Wrestling Entertainment.

Currently Nattie is healing from ACL surgery, and progress in healing is on schedule, and Nattie looks to make a successful return to the wrestling ring in the near future. Nattie thanks all her fans for their support. Check back in the coming weeks for more updates."

source-pwinsider.com

Warhammer
05-03-2006, 07:45 PM
Alright- so DX is reforming, Kane is becoming a big red machine (May 19th) even though it's probably just to plug some movie (May 19th), and since Vince beat "god" his "corporation" cannot be stopped.

Now we just need some guy drinking beers, and maybe a couple elements I'm forgetting and it's a re-vamped "Attitude era".

Although, I wanted the Attitude era to continue even when WCW was bought out 5 years ago

I'm all for that. :up:

Addendum
05-03-2006, 08:20 PM
I'm all for that. :up:
As am I. It just seems glaringly obvious that for the past 5 years, the WWF/WWE has been doing "storyline by numbers" and just flat out sucking.

The main reason that people still watch is until last year, there was no other pro wrestling show available nationwide. TNA, which has been around since '02, had a weekly show available only through PPV. ROH, which has a good following on here from what I gather, isn't available nationwide. My cable company in Memphis has gotten sick of me calling every other week for every month asking when will they pick up Ring of Honor.

The current incarnation of Memphis Wrestling is an embarrasment to what has proceeded it.

The FallenAngel
05-03-2006, 08:38 PM
For those of you who have been following the ROH/CZW feud, the new video recap is up at ROH's website. Jim Cornette cut a promo, and it was pretty interesting. He says that he doesn't think they can win without the help of a certain person in Ring of Honor. That person, he says, is Homicide. I can't wait to see what happens next.

NDX
05-03-2006, 09:21 PM
May 3rd: The main event for 6/17 back at the New Yorker Hotel in Manhattan has been signed. Last time in Manhattan, KENTA teamed with Naomichi Marufuji to defeat Bryan Danielson & Samoa Joe in a battle of the "Best In The World." There was obvious heat between Joe and KENTA. Joe also wants Danielson's World Title and is upset that Danielson took the fall in the tag match. Danielson wants to avenge his loss to KENTA. KENTA has also made waves about going after Danielson's World Title. So on 6/17 you will see one of the most explosive matches ever. It will be Bryan Danielson vs. Samoa Joe vs. KENTA in a one fall three-way. Pride will be on the line in this one as once again the best in the world collide in NYC.


http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif:up: :up:

If I miss that, I will kill myself. After killing all of you to release my anger.

Prognosticator
05-03-2006, 09:25 PM
I wasn't on here for much of the weekend, what has the general response (if any) been to the "return" of Buff Bagwell to TNA??

The FallenAngel
05-03-2006, 09:31 PM
If I miss that, I will kill myself. After killing all of you to release my anger.Oh yeah. You live in NY. I hate you. Die. :mad:

NDX
05-03-2006, 09:57 PM
On Nattie Neidhart's official website, she denies signing with WWE despite numerous internet reports. The following statement was posted:

"Nattie Neidhart would like to announce that despite rumours on various news sites on the internet, she hasn't signed any developmental deal with World Wrestling Entertainment.

Currently Nattie is healing from ACL surgery, and progress in healing is on schedule, and Nattie looks to make a successful return to the wrestling ring in the near future. Nattie thanks all her fans for their support. Check back in the coming weeks for more updates."

source-pwinsider.com

This makes me sad. Was hoping to really see her in WWE.


Oh yeah. You live in NY. I hate you. Die. :mad:


I love you too. Now die.

NDX
05-03-2006, 10:11 PM
The following e-mail was sent out to OVW TV subscribers today...

"We regret to inform you that after you receive the April 2006 OVW video, you will not be receiving anymore monthly videos after that. WWE has acquired the complete OVW library and upon doing so we will no longer be offering any OVW products.

Your subscription would normally not end until November 2006 (7 months left) so we are offering three options to satisfy your investment:
I) refund by check for the remaining videos
2) we will offer you 10 DVDs of your choice from whatever is listed in DVD form on our website.
3) will will offer you 15 VHS of your choice from whatever is listed in VHS form on our website.

The shipping expenses are paid by OVW Internet Sales of course.

You must let me know asap what you would like to do as this must be taken care of promptly. You just need to respond back from this e-mail to me and I can get finish out your account. I am sorry for any inconvenience. OVW has always appreciated your support and patronage!

Julie
OVW Online Sales"

Very good to hear this. Looking forward to seeing a potential best of dvd from OVW now.

Addendum
05-03-2006, 10:15 PM
Are there any promotions with archives that the WWE doesn't own?

NDX
05-03-2006, 10:34 PM
I think there is a few in the south they don't have, and I don't know if they have control over Bill Watt's UWF or not (if they do they could put out the really good compilation dvds).

I'm waiting to see if McMahon will now start attempting to purchase libraries of defunct feds from overseas.

Addendum
05-03-2006, 10:42 PM
He better keep his hands off FMW :mad:

NDX
05-03-2006, 11:00 PM
Is IWA still in business? I wouldn't mind seeing some of their death matches put together. The Jack/Funk barbed Wire match with the flaming chair is just classic.

Addendum
05-03-2006, 11:16 PM
I got my copy of the King of the Deathmatch Tournament from www.wrestlingemporium.com

NDX
05-03-2006, 11:33 PM
Actually, it wasn't a match for the Deathmatch Tourney.

I have the Tourney, got it from RF Video when I worked for them. Although after 6 years on a VHS, I could use a nice, clear copy on dvd.

NDX
05-04-2006, 12:47 AM
CM Punk won the OVW world title tonight at the weekly taping at the Davis Arena, beating Gunner Nelson Scott (Brent Albright) in a strap match...


From www.zeroonemax.com
C-Dub Back to ECW!
May 3rd, 2006

The return of Extreme Championship Wrestling (ECW) has been widely reported in the wrestling media. As a product of World Wrestling Entertainment the new promotion will be run by former company heads - Paul Heyman and Tommy Dreamer. With the resurgence so to are many of the former ECW wrestlers returning to the promotion under contract. ZERO1-MAX/WORLD-1 wrestler C.W. Anderson will be one of those returning to the company. C-Dub sent the following release to the First On Stage offices today in regards to his new job:

"First and I want to thank you and everyone at ZERO1-MAX for everything. I know you have heard by now that I have signed with WWE since they are bringing back ECW. I really loved coming over and being a part of ZERO1-MAX and wrestling in front of the Japanese fans. I hope I am welcomed back once I am finished with the WWE. Please tell all the guys thank you and I will miss being there." - CW

C-dub first came to ZERO-ONE in 2002 where he often teamed with Steve Corino in tag team matches. The two held the Intercontinental Tag Championship in mid 2003. Anderson also held the United National Heavyweight championship in 2005. Good luck to C-Dub in all his future endeavors!

(I just noticed I have over 2000 posts, I need a new avatar until I reach 3000. But what...)

Assassin
05-04-2006, 03:19 AM
any one post this yet? it has the detroit house show the one i messed to go to SNME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM38G1450Ew

TNA Global 1st episode

Assassin
05-04-2006, 03:20 AM
Is IWA still in business? I wouldn't mind seeing some of their death matches put together. The Jack/Funk barbed Wire match with the flaming chair is just classic.

i have the dvd with sabu funk death match :)

nite-owl
05-04-2006, 03:41 AM
The basic gist of Randy Orton's speculated problems with women are that if they treat him like "God's gift to women," and many do, there are no problems. However, he's said to not cope well with women who either reject him, or don't treat him like "God's gift to women."

When that's the case, he goes off on these particular females with some blunt language. In the past, he has been verbally abusive to women performers, women who work in the company (causing fines) and women who work with WWE, such as hotel employees. Orton openly jokes about how much money he's paid in fines, and he he continues to do so.

If Randy Orton wasn't hand-picked at one point to be the WWE's next "Rock", it is likely that he would have been released by now.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

The Ghoul
05-04-2006, 04:45 AM
The basic gist of Randy Orton's speculated problems with women are that if they treat him like "God's gift to women," and many do, there are no problems. However, he's said to not cope well with women who either reject him, or don't treat him like "God's gift to women."

When that's the case, he goes off on these particular females with some blunt language. In the past, he has been verbally abusive to women performers, women who work in the company (causing fines) and women who work with WWE, such as hotel employees. Orton openly jokes about how much money he's paid in fines, and he he continues to do so.

If Randy Orton wasn't hand-picked at one point to be the WWE's next "Rock", it is likely that he would have been released by now.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Why am I not surprised?

The FallenAngel
05-04-2006, 07:24 AM
May 4th: WLW, NOAH and ROH will present KENTA as he makes his Detroit debut on June 23rd. He wants to take on the best ROH has to offer and climb into title contention. On June 23rd you will see a first time ever match as KENTA takes on half of the ROH Tag Team Champions in Roderick Strong!!! This match doesn't need any hype. Tickets on sale now at ROHwrestling.com, by calling 215-781-2500 and at Ticketmaster outlets.

I hate you ROH. You will destroy me and I will have no money left. :( :up:

Bad Superman
05-04-2006, 08:17 AM
I don't want to force Carlito into a Tag-Team situation since he just got out of one, so i'm gonna say no tag team at first. let it be a small group of cool guys who eventually can grow IF the need arises. no need in forcing people into DX that don't quite fit the bill?

I agree, Carlito should stay in singles.

They need Maria in DX. Simply because my pants would explode everytime she screamed "Suck it!" and choped her crotch. :eek::up:

Ha!! :D :up:

Sarge 2.0
05-04-2006, 09:53 AM
For those of you who have been following the ROH/CZW feud, the new video recap is up at ROH's website. Jim Cornette cut a promo, and it was pretty interesting. He says that he doesn't think they can win without the help of a certain person in Ring of Honor. That person, he says, is Homicide. I can't wait to see what happens next.Finally. i guess cheering for Homicide at 4/22 during the brawl wasn't completely in vain.

Sarge 2.0
05-04-2006, 09:56 AM
CM Punk won the OVW world title tonight at the weekly taping at the Davis Arena, beating Gunner Nelson Scott (Brent Albright) in a strap match...
This is good for several reasons, I think.

Most people who win the OVW world title are almost given a spot on the main roster.

Albright is now free to become fully involved with Smackdown.

Punk is on his way to becoming a big star. :up:

Hunter Rider
05-04-2006, 12:38 PM
May 4th: WLW, NOAH and ROH will present KENTA as he makes his Detroit debut on June 23rd. He wants to take on the best ROH has to offer and climb into title contention. On June 23rd you will see a first time ever match as KENTA takes on half of the ROH Tag Team Champions in Roderick Strong!!! This match doesn't need any hype. Tickets on sale now at ROHwrestling.com, by calling 215-781-2500 and at Ticketmaster outlets.

I hate you ROH. You will destroy me and I will have no money left. :( :up:
This is perfect booking,the match should be exceptional:up:

Hunter Rider
05-04-2006, 12:39 PM
This is good for several reasons, I think.

Most people who win the OVW world title are almost given a spot on the main roster.

Albright is now free to become fully involved with Smackdown.

Punk is on his way to becoming a big star. :up:

I agree,this is the start for Punk,give him a few months as champ and we may see him by summers end on the main roster

Bad Superman
05-04-2006, 12:41 PM
Smackdown needs more main eventers. I think Punk will be drafted to Smackdown.

Hunter Rider
05-04-2006, 12:47 PM
The Wrestling Observer Newsletter is reporting that the decision is final, and John Cena vs. RVD will be the main event for the ECW One Night Stand PPV this year.

WWE will likely be using this opportunity to finally turn Cena heel, after getting booed by fans for months

Sarge 2.0
05-04-2006, 12:52 PM
The Wrestling Observer Newsletter is reporting that the decision is final, and John Cena vs. RVD will be the main event for the ECW One Night Stand PPV this year.

WWE will likely be using this opportunity to finally turn Cena heel, after getting booed by fans for monthsThe crowd during that match alone is worth the 35 bucks.

Sarge 2.0
05-04-2006, 12:53 PM
And for all you Delirious fans, check out his earth shattering promo at rohvideos.com. :D

Bad Superman
05-04-2006, 01:46 PM
The Wrestling Observer Newsletter is reporting that the decision is final, and John Cena vs. RVD will be the main event for the ECW One Night Stand PPV this year.

WWE will likely be using this opportunity to finally turn Cena heel, after getting booed by fans for months

Interesting. . . So I guess Triple H is giving others a shot at the main event spotlight? I'm still a bit skeptical. . .

Eklypze
05-04-2006, 02:07 PM
man i was really looking forward to it being RVD vs JBL for ons but damn i dunno what the hell to think about this if they dont give RVD the belt not only will he be forever destined to mid-card status but ECW will not do to good when it returns

Donnie Darko
05-04-2006, 02:56 PM
I don't see how they could possibly not give RVD the title at ONS. I mean, if they don't, it has to be a complete screwjob, setting up a feud with him and whichever ECW wrestler causes him to lose.

The FallenAngel
05-04-2006, 03:04 PM
Not to mention that if Cena pulls his magical comeback on RVD there, and wins, those fans will go nuts.

LastSunrise1981
05-04-2006, 03:15 PM
Interesting. . . So I guess Triple H is giving others a shot at the main event spotlight? I'm still a bit skeptical. . .

As am I. I'm definitely not letting my guard down when it comes to Triple H.

So in conclusion I'll say this; I wish he'd stop fronting and just put the title on himself again.

Eklypze
05-04-2006, 03:19 PM
source-pwinsider

Since so many people have asked, here's a list of the current group of talent scheduled to be a part of the ECW project that WWE will debut next month. There will be changes and additions, for sure, but this is a pretty good list of who is signed now.

Bookers: Paul Heyman, Tommy Dreamer, possibly Smackdown's Ed Koskey part time

Announcers: Joey Styles, TBD

Expected by everyone to be the top star:

Rob Van Dam

Talent List:

The Sandman
Tommy Dreamer
Sabu
Al Snow
Axl Rotten
Balls Mahoney
Francine
Jazz
C. W. Anderson
Danny Doring
The FBI (expected to be Little Guido and Tony Mamaluke)

Part Time Talent (Individuals confirmed and rumored to make part time appearances for the brand):

Terry Funk
Masato Tanaka
Yoshihiro Tajiri
Mikey Whipwreck
Joel Gertner

Ring Announcer:

Steven DeAngelis

The First Non-ECW Talent to get a big push:

CM Punk

Possible Signings/Call ups:

Roadkill (In OVW)
Kid Kash (Possible Smackdown transfer)
Super Crazy (Possible Smackdown transfer)
Justin Credible (If the MTV group doesn't renew his contract)
Lance Storm (Has said he will possibly work selected dates, but not full time)
Stevie Richards (Not being used much now)
Johnny Swinger (Would make sense)
Nova/Simon Dean (A possibility but also has a good role on Smackdown)

Eklypze
05-04-2006, 03:20 PM
i think that sounds pretty damn good for right now although i would definately love to see Blue Meanie make an appearnce

Eric Draven
05-04-2006, 03:35 PM
This is good for several reasons, I think.

Most people who win the OVW world title are almost given a spot on the main roster.

Albright is now free to become fully involved with Smackdown.

Punk is on his way to becoming a big star. :up:

I dunno about that. Weren't other former OVW champions Nick Dinsmore, Rob Conway and the Bashams? :confused: :(

Prognosticator
05-04-2006, 03:46 PM
I like how the tone of this thread has QUICKLY changed from kissing TNA's rear to the new ECW brand. of course i'm excited to see what they do with it, but i get the feeling a lot of people are suddenly shying away from tna... is it b/c they're partly turning into the "old man's" club with geriatric talent like Lex Lugar showing up to fight Scott Steiner and JJ! ...lame!

Sarge 2.0
05-04-2006, 03:56 PM
Luger and Bagwell aren't even going to wrestle. It was just a one time appearence.

I don't see anyone kissing TNA's ass in this thread, and I definitely don't see people starting to "shy away" from TNA either.

Sarge 2.0
05-04-2006, 03:57 PM
I dunno about that. Weren't other former OVW champions Nick Dinsmore, Rob Conway and the Bashams? :confused: :(But so were Batista, Cena, (I think) Mr. Kennedy, and now Gunner Scott.

But you're right, Punk could end up like the Bashams, Conway and Dinsmore. :(

Eric Draven
05-04-2006, 04:04 PM
But so were Batista, Cena, (I think) Mr. Kennedy, and now Gunner Scott.

But you're right, Punk could end up like the Bashams, Conway and Dinsmore. :(

Here's a list of the OVW champions, I don't know the actual validity of it, but it does sound a bit reasonable:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OVW_Heavyweight_Championship

Dinsmore's held that title like 8 times :eek: :(

Prognosticator
05-04-2006, 04:06 PM
Luger and Bagwell aren't even going to wrestle. It was just a one time appearence.

I don't see anyone kissing TNA's ass in this thread, and I definitely don't see people starting to "shy away" from TNA either.

i stand corrected then. thanks, sarge

The FallenAngel
05-04-2006, 04:50 PM
I like that list of talent for ECW. I also really like that CM Punk is going to get a big push. :up:

The Batman
05-04-2006, 04:52 PM
Luger and Bagwell aren't even going to wrestle. It was just a one time appearence.

I don't see anyone kissing TNA's ass in this thread, and I definitely don't see people starting to "shy away" from TNA either.


This thread is pretty balanced when it comes to TNA. Gamefaqs acts like TNA is the best thing since sliced bread.

Sarge 2.0
05-04-2006, 04:54 PM
This thread is pretty balanced when it comes to TNA. Gamefaqs acts like TNA is the best thing since sliced bread.Yeah, I would say so. Balanced discussion of any subject is hard to find on the internet these days, but the Hype is pretty good about it.

SLYspyder
05-04-2006, 07:33 PM
ECW blows, I want to watch real wrestling, not a bunch of glorified stunt men.

I said it once and I'll say it again, RVD is not heavyweight championship material. Intercontinental championship is fine.

Sarge 2.0
05-04-2006, 07:45 PM
ECW blows, I want to watch real wrestling, not a bunch of glorified stunt men.

I said it once and I'll say it again, RVD is not heavyweight championship material. Intercontinental championship is fine.Yeah, cause Benoit, Guerrero, Lynn, Malenko, Taz, Douglas, Jericho and TONS of luchadors and the like are all glorified stuntmen. :rolleyes:

Donnie Darko
05-04-2006, 08:06 PM
yeah, a lot of people think ECW is just people like New Jack falling off balconies. It was also great technicians like Benoit, Jericho, Lance Storm and Taz showing people how wrestlers do it.

Sarge 2.0
05-04-2006, 08:08 PM
yeah, a lot of people think ECW is just people like New Jack falling off balconies. It was also great technicians like Benoit, Jericho, Lance Storm and Taz showing people how wrestlers do it.Hell, even guys like RVD and Raven can work good non-weapon matches.

Twitch
05-04-2006, 08:35 PM
Hell, even guys like RVD and Raven can work good non-weapon matches.

Yeah, I mean look at RVD/Lynn from Living Dangerously 99. The only reason chairs, tables, going out into the crowd etc. was just to increase the pace of the match. At its core was just awesome technical wrestling.

batboy99
05-04-2006, 08:37 PM
can anyone send me candices song

Sarge 2.0
05-04-2006, 08:53 PM
We're here, but we're not all there
By Ed Williams III
May 4, 2006

Paul London & Brian Kendrick have been dominating WWE Tag Team Champions MNM for four weeks straight. The high-octane duo has amassed four victories over MNM in various matches over the last month, and now they will finally be rewarded for their efforts. This week on SmackDown, Kendrick & London finally get their WWE Tag Team Championship opportunity.

But it took four wins against the champions to even get an opportunity. Some fans think that London & Kendrick don’t get the respect they deserve. Both Superstars have a strong fan following from their days on the independent scene, but at the same time, many of those fans feel that London & Kendrick haven’t received the respect they deserve in WWE.

“I don’t think it’s a matter of respect,” said Kendrick. “It’s just that this is our first opportunity. We’re just going to take advantage of the first opportunity that’s being presented to us.”

“I try not to pay attention to the critical aspect of things, because it’s coming from people that have really high expectations, but aren’t really in the driver’s seat,” said London. “I think if they were here with us every step of the way, then their opinions would change dramatically. Kurt Angle has the three I’s. Well, I have the three P’s – Paul, preparation and patience. Opportunities will come and go, and you have to be ready for whenever they do come. You never know when an opportunity will come. After not being on WrestleMania, we had no clue we would be wrestling MNM on SmackDown, and now we have four wins over them. The worst thing you can do is lose hope because then you’re not ready when the opportunity arrives.”

London is no stranger to making the most of his opportunities as he’s already a former Cruiserweight and WWE Tag Team Champion. London got his first taste of gold in 2004 when he and Billy Kidman defeated The Dudleys for the WWE Tag Team Championship. Less than one year later, he picked up his first singles championship, winning an eight-man battle royal for the Cruiserweight Championship. London’s first reign as a champion ended abruptly when Kidman brutally turned on him. Luckily for London, that’s something that he doesn’t have to worry about with his current partner.

“Me and Brian were always friends, and our styles are very similar, so we decided to throw them together,” said London. “I knew Brian from our days on the independent scene. I’ve learned a lot from him.”

“Teaming together was something we’ve thought about before, and we have teamed up in the past,” said Kendrick. “We looked at our situations as singles competitors and realized things weren’t looking so great, and we noticed there was a gap in the tag team division, so it seemed like a good idea, and luckily it worked out.”

Kendrick & London have not only been achieving success in terms of wins, but they’ve also been receiving more and more support from the fans in recent weeks. London & Kendrick attribute their rise in popularity to their uniqueness and creativity.

“Our motto is we’re here, but we’re not all there,” said London. “We want to show people that we’re different, and different is good. Different doesn’t always have to be something negative. Everyone has something to offer in this world. Everyone is unique. We’re a circus coming to town.”

London & Kendrick actually started teaming up together in WWE back in 2003. But towards the end of that year, Kendrick, who was known then as Spanky, left WWE. Kendrick’s dream was to make it to WWE, but in a decision that shocked many of his peers, he cut all ties with WWE and moved on.

“It was something I thought about for a while, but when I realized I wasn’t really progressing in the ring, I knew I didn’t want to stay at that level forever,” said Kendrick. “I just wasn’t moving forward. It was a real risk financially, but I would’ve been kicking myself if I didn’t do it. I’m in debt to this day, but people respected the move because they knew I was trying to become a better wrestler. I went all around the world and learned different styles. It was a step in the right direction.”

The decision to leave ended up paying off. Kendrick honed his craft, and WWE noticed and brought him back into the fold in Sept. 2005. Upon his re-arrival, Kendrick and London actually competed against each other in a few matches before teaming up.

While Kendrick has endured some financial hardships to pursue his dreams, London has also had to overcome some hurdles. London admits that he was almost thrown out of his family over wrestling.

For a long time, London lied to his parents about his “secret life” of being a professional wrestler. London even said that when he chose which college to go to, he made sure a wrestling school would be nearby. London eventually dropped out of college, but he didn’t stop pursuing his dream of becoming a WWE Superstar.

“I was wrestling all over the world and my parents didn’t know for a good three, three-and-a-half years,” said London. “That was the price I was willing to pay to live wrestling. Girlfriends and friends have come and gone. But if I hadn’t done everything I did, I might not be where I am today. I’m living my dream right now, and I’m very fortunate. I’ve sacrificed a lot. I’ve lived out of my car, I’ve traveled hundreds of miles for nothing, but it’s awesome and every day is an opportunity to learn something.”

Even though London & Kendrick are on a tremendous hot streak right now, they still receive some criticisms from their biggest fans. Many fans of their independent days feel that their high-flying arsenal has been very limited ever since coming to WWE. But London & Kendrick have another take on the situation.

“When you make it to WWE, you do eliminate the amount of risks that you take. If we break our necks out there, then it affects the whole company, and it’s just not worth it,” said Kendrick. “It’s a challenge because you have to be creative. You have to restrict yourself, and at the same time, be creative and exciting. I enjoy the challenge.”

London had a unique analogy to make his point.

“If I’m a carpenter and am used to building a certain style of house, but then try to move on to build another kind of house, I’m going to have to get some new tools,” he said. “I can still use my old tools, but I’ll have to use the new ones too. One isn’t better than the other, they’re just different. The style here is different. If I use the old tools, they won’t necessarily fit. It’s just a matter of how you apply the tools.”

London & Kendrick have made a successful transition from the independent scene to WWE, but, due to their former styles, it wasn’t easy at first. London had another comparison to explain his adaptation.

“I’m a big Duke basketball fan, so I kind of compare it to Christian Laettner. He was amazing in college and his team would win all the time,” said London. “Then he was drafted by the Minnesota Timberwolves, and he never seemed to win. He did a total 180. That’s kind of what it was like for me. It’s all a matter of patience and timing. When I first started here I wanted to go 1000 mph, but that just doesn’t work here. It was a big adjustment, and it’s a constant adjustment. You can never know everything. Once you think you know everything, you should hang up the boots.”

Paul London and Brian Kendrick have been all around the world. They have overcome personal and financial obstacles just to make it to WWE. Right now they’re on an incredible winning streak. And for all of their hard work and sacrifice, they finally have their first opportunity as a team for the WWE Tag Team Championship against MNM Friday night on SmackDown. After notching four wins over the champs, London & Kendrick are excited about their opportunity.

“Well, this is my first title shot,” said Kendrick. “This is what you dream about when you’re a kid. We’ve beaten them four weeks in a row, but we’re not cocky. I’m just happy to have the opportunity Friday night.”

“You’re either excited about an opportunity like this, or you’re in the wrong line of work,” said London. “You’re here to be a champion. It means you’re the best in your field. We seem to have MNM’s number. I think we’re in their head. We’ll see what happens. Hopefully we’re going through the airport with much heavier bags,” joked London, referring to the WWE Tag Team Championship belts.

Interesting read, I think.

Jason Blood
05-04-2006, 08:55 PM
This thread is pretty balanced when it comes to TNA. Gamefaqs acts like TNA is the best thing since sliced bread.
Gamefaqs is in no way shape or form caring about TNA as much right now

ROH is the biggest thing on the Other Fed forum CZW is third behind TNA for some reason *cough*GARBAGE*cough*

NDX
05-04-2006, 09:19 PM
Interesting read, I think.

Articles like these are reasons why I have to visit WWE.com more often.

WWE.com has confirmed the signings of Sabu, Jazz, Axl Rotten, Balls Mahoney and C.W. Anderson. More signings will be forthcoming in the next few weeks. Here is the official message from WWE.com...

ECW signs several Superstars

As first reported by WWE’s new mobile alert system, ECW has signed the following:

Sabu
Jazz
Axl Rotten
Balls Mahoney
C.W. Anderson

source: WWE.com

****, I'm glad to see Balls and Axl getting signed, but this just ****s up everything I watch with UXW. Well, this might force Goodman to now explore using more ROH/CZW wrestlers on the show. And less ticket sellers.

The Techno Bat
05-04-2006, 10:31 PM
Bringing back ECW is the worst thing ever, there was a reason it went under, and it should stay that way. If anything they should bring OVW to the forefront, and showcase that more instead of bringing ECW back, it had it's time and history shows that you can never relive the past, look how great the NWO was and when Vince and the WWE tried to bring it back it s*cked! Just the same way Vince will ruin ECW, sure Heyman will be in charge, but with Vince signing the checks there is no hope!

The Ghoul
05-05-2006, 01:09 AM
Bringing back ECW is the worst thing ever, there was a reason it went under, and it should stay that way. If anything they should bring OVW to the forefront, and showcase that more instead of bringing ECW back, it had it's time and history shows that you can never relive the past, look how great the NWO was and when Vince and the WWE tried to bring it back it s*cked! Just the same way Vince will ruin ECW, sure Heyman will be in charge, but with Vince signing the checks there is no hope!

There is a major difference in this comparison. When WCW went under the nWo was already dead. Sure JJ made nWo silver, but no one cared not even JJ. When ECW went down they were still considered a hot product. Also ECW isn't a character to be pedigreed into a mid-card group. It's a new brand building more talent. I wouldn't be surprised if by WM23 it becomes a joint Raw/Smackdown!/ECW PPV (if not then S.Slam 07). Yes, for the first of months they have to play the nestalgia game. But they said that they will bring in OVW guys & on prowrestling.com they said to expect Punk to have a major push in ECW.

Eric Draven
05-05-2006, 01:15 AM
And it's not like ECW is a dead brand compared to, say, WCW. The Rise and Fall of ECW dvd sold like gangbusters. The ECW ONS PPV had huge buyrates as well. And there's always those "E C Dub" chants going on.....

Plus, one of the reasons why ECW went down in the first place was that Heyman was doing too many things for one guy. Now that Vince is going to be bankrolling it, it will allow Heyman to concentrate more on the stuff he does best....

The Ghoul
05-05-2006, 01:39 AM
I get it now, with the recent ups in stories & development on both shows, & ECW coming back... Vince is actually listening. This era of wrestling is the era of the smart mark. All news has been about EITHER what we want in good wrestling, or some dumb internet smark *****ing about something they don't understand, or Vince ignoring them. Either way, the news of thelast 4 years have been people like us... & people like that mark you went to school with just now he learned how to use the internet... Do I sound hypocritical? Maybe, but most people here understand the difference.

Addendum
05-05-2006, 05:20 AM
Bringing back ECW is the worst thing ever, there was a reason it went under, and it should stay that way. If anything they should bring OVW to the forefront, and showcase that more instead of bringing ECW back, it had it's time and history shows that you can never relive the past, look how great the NWO was and when Vince and the WWE tried to bring it back it s*cked! Just the same way Vince will ruin ECW, sure Heyman will be in charge, but with Vince signing the checks there is no hope!
The nWo was good when it first started. When it became nWo Black and White, nWo Wolfpac, and nWo Japan, it was time for it to end. Aside from the big names, you had around half the middle of the card and their stepchildren part of the group. It went on for 3 years too long.

Read up about ECW before you knock it. Remember that Attitude era of WWF? ECW had it first. When WCW became a bunch of sissies regarding blood, some of them went to ECW. When WCW let "Stunning" Steve Austin go, ECW picked him up and he became "Superstar" Steve Austin and created the attitude he had as "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. And back when Kurt Angle won his gold medal at the Olympics, he visited ECW. Raven then crucified the Sandman, who had a crown made out of barbed wire. A year later, the Undertaker performed a "dark wedding" with Stephanie McMahon on an "Undertaker symbol" which bore a striking resemblance to a cross.

ECW gained attention for it's hardcore matches. Some of them are the stuff of legends, such as "Born to be Wired" Sabu vs. Terry Funk for the ECW title, back in 97. As mentioned earlier, you had technical wrestlers that wrestled. Yes, they had a "gimmick" but the gimmick never outshined the wrestlers in the ring.

I hope that this incarnation of ECW lives up to what has gone before. And since it hopefully will be shown nationwide courtesy of the connections that the WWE has, it should do good. As long as "sports entertainment" stays out of this ECW, ****ing bring it

Mister J
05-05-2006, 05:40 AM
Echoing what Addendum wrote, I really hope Vince doesn't screw up this up. I loved ECW. I used to scramble through channels looking for it at 1:00 in the freakin' morning on the weekend. I'm just so disillusioned with the hit-and-miss booking style of WWE as of late, I wonder how much of that will encroach on ECW. It should be the same deal as back in the day...minus the bouncing checks.

3dman27
05-05-2006, 05:45 AM
I want to watch real wrestling, not a bunch of glorified stunt men.


thats my take on pro wrestling but strickly speaking only AMATEUR wrestling is real as much as i'd like it to be the other way around

nite-owl
05-05-2006, 10:50 AM
From Wrestlezone:

Huge congratulations go out to WWE's Charlie Haas and TNA's Jackie Gayda, who are expecting their first child at year's end. The couple married on June 10, 2005, weeks before receiving their official WWE releases.

3dman27
05-05-2006, 10:56 AM
From Wrestlezone:

Huge congratulations go out to WWE's Charlie Haas and TNA's Jackie Gayda, who are expecting their first child at year's end. The couple married on June 10, 2005, weeks before receiving their official WWE releases.
and mine as well
but how will this affect the storylie of jackie as jarretts slave?

Eklypze
05-05-2006, 11:01 AM
it probably wont affect the storyline considering haas is with wwe

3dman27
05-05-2006, 11:09 AM
it probably wont affect the storyline considering haas is with wwe
thats what i mean will they try to say jarrets the father[ugh]or releas her like the wwe did to dawn marie?

The FallenAngel
05-05-2006, 11:14 AM
May 5th: The KENTA tour of ROH will continue on 6/24 in Chicago when WLW, NOAH and ROH present KENTA in another first time ever dream match. Chicago Ridge will see KENTA vs. half of the ROH Tag Team Champions Austin Aries on 6/24!!! Tickets are now on sale at ROHwrestling.com, by calling 215-781-2500 and at Ticketmaster outlets.

Yet another awesome match. They just don't stop. :up: :up:

Eklypze
05-05-2006, 11:28 AM
thats what i mean will they try to say jarrets the father[ugh]or releas her like the wwe did to dawn marie?

eh i dont know might happen but who knows and i honestly dont really care i dont pay attention to any of the old WCW guys in TNA i just watch for the X-disvision and the now revived heavyweight title picture

nite-owl
05-05-2006, 12:33 PM
I watched raw yesterday I didn't think it could get any worse. It's to be nice to proven wrong.

Bad Superman
05-05-2006, 01:16 PM
Articles like these are reasons why I have to visit WWE.com more often.

WWE.com has confirmed the signings of Sabu, Jazz, Axl Rotten, Balls Mahoney and C.W. Anderson. More signings will be forthcoming in the next few weeks. Here is the official message from WWE.com...

ECW signs several Superstars

As first reported by WWE’s new mobile alert system, ECW has signed the following:

Sabu
Jazz
Axl Rotten
Balls Mahoney
C.W. Anderson

source: WWE.com

****, I'm glad to see Balls and Axl getting signed, but this just ****s up everything I watch with UXW. Well, this might force Goodman to now explore using more ROH/CZW wrestlers on the show. And less ticket sellers.

I hope they don't have plans to book The Devil, if you know what I meand ;) :mad:

DOG LIPS
05-05-2006, 01:48 PM
I hope they don't have plans to book The Devil, if you know what I meand ;) :mad:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DOGLIPS/devil.jpg
"Oh mah GAWD!!! He's coming to the ring!!!"

Addendum
05-05-2006, 02:11 PM
I hope they don't have plans to book The Devil, if you know what I meand ;) :mad:
http://www.tvacres.com/images/newhart_devil.jpg

Bad Superman
05-05-2006, 02:16 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DOGLIPS/devil.jpg
"Oh mah GAWD!!! He's coming to the ring!!!"

:D :up:

Sarge 2.0
05-05-2006, 03:01 PM
I watched raw yesterday I didn't think it could get any worse. It's to be nice to proven wrong.Really? The general consensus on here was that Raw was actually pretty good this week.

Colossal Spoons
05-05-2006, 03:05 PM
Best RAW main event in a long time too.

Addendum
05-05-2006, 03:05 PM
Really? The general consensus on here was that Raw was actually pretty good this week.
Definitely.

I'm glad I didn't turn off the TV when Vince said that the Spirit Squad were GM's for the night.

I'm also glad my mute button worked during the Cena vs. Kenny match

nite-owl
05-05-2006, 03:40 PM
Really? The general consensus on here was that Raw was actually pretty good this week.

Yeah, there was something about it I just didn't like.

Credit: PWInsider.com

Currently commercials that advertise the WWE Judgment Day Pay-per view in Canada are listing The Great Khali vs. The Undertaker. :( :down

Addendum
05-05-2006, 04:01 PM
Credit: PWInsider.com

Currently commercials that advertise the WWE Judgment Day Pay-per view in Canada are listing The Great Khali vs. The Undertaker. :( :down
Taker vs. Giant Gonzales 2.0 = Boredom

TheVileOne
05-05-2006, 04:15 PM
I think deep down, Vince McMahon is sickened that Rey Mysterio is the world champion.

That's why his run to the top was booked so horribly. And that's why his title reign is being booked equally horribly.

LastSunrise1981
05-05-2006, 04:44 PM
I think deep down, Vince McMahon is sickened that Rey Mysterio is the world champion.

That's why his run to the top was booked so horribly. And that's why his title reign is being booked equally horribly.

And that is why JBL is going over on him too. :( :down :down :mad:

Sarge 2.0
05-05-2006, 04:44 PM
And that is why JBL is going over on him too. :( :down :down :mad:Well, also 'cause Rey is injured. :o

TheVileOne
05-05-2006, 04:52 PM
Even though there are a bunch of wrestlers better to put over Rey than JBL.

JBL's who's title reign was painful torture and gave us some of the worst main events ever.

The FallenAngel
05-05-2006, 04:53 PM
JBL had a few pretty good matches here and there. I just think his reign lasted way too long.

Addendum
05-05-2006, 04:55 PM
JBL was champ? That must have took place when I wasn't watching.

I quit during the Mr. America storyline

Hunter Rider
05-05-2006, 04:55 PM
Rey was always designed to be short term champ,the crowd is already split on him and he's injured,he is merely holding the belt for Batista

Hunter Rider
05-05-2006, 04:56 PM
Even though there are a bunch of wrestlers better to put over Rey than JBL.

JBL's who's title reign was painful torture and gave us some of the worst main events ever.

Who would you put over him ? there sint nayone left on the SD brand that can carry the role

TheVileOne
05-05-2006, 05:01 PM
Here's what you do at Judgement Day:

Benoit vs. JBL vs. Mysterio

Benoit wins the world title. Mysterio leaves to nurse his injury. Benoit faces JBL one last time over the summer and finally gets revenge over talking crap about Eddie.

What does that lead to? BENOIT VS. BATISTA!

They've already done JBL Batista all summer last year and it SUCKED.

They've literally got jack **** now for Benoit. It's pretty pathetic.

Sarge 2.0
05-05-2006, 05:02 PM
It looks like he'll be advancing in the KOTR and developing a mentor role with Albright, so he's definitely not underutilized at the moment.

Hunter Rider
05-05-2006, 05:03 PM
There never gonna male Benoit champ again,he can't carry a storyline the way JBL can
I'm sure they aren't gonna do JBL/Batista,they will most likely have JBL drop the belt to RVD one month later

The FallenAngel
05-05-2006, 05:04 PM
I read that he loses to Finlay, so no KOTR for Benoit.

Addendum
05-05-2006, 05:05 PM
Benoit, Regal (he's been in the business for 23 years. He's long overdue for a good push above mid-card), Booker T.

JBL is forever in my mind the guy from "The New Blackjacks" and the APA

Hunter Rider
05-05-2006, 05:06 PM
I read that he loses to Finlay, so no KOTR for Benoit.

You're right

Hunter Rider
05-05-2006, 05:07 PM
Benoit, Regal (he's been in the business for 23 years. He's long overdue for a good push above mid-card), Booker T.
Regals nothing but a jobber now and Benoit has a role already,Booker i could see working well though given his new found personality:up:

Addendum
05-05-2006, 05:08 PM
Regals nothing but a jobber now and Benoit has a role already,Booker i could see working well though given his new found personality:up:
Then we disagree.

It's not Benoit's fault that the writers in the back can't think of anything good for him. Same with Regal.

However, both those wrestlers can outshine any **** they're given to work with

Sarge 2.0
05-05-2006, 05:09 PM
There never gonna male Benoit champ again,he can't carry a storyline the way JBL can
I'm sure they aren't gonna do JBL/Batista,they will most likely have JBL drop the belt to RVD one month laterYeah, Batista/JBL would be my prediction for SD's big match at Summerslam.

The FallenAngel
05-05-2006, 05:10 PM
Yeah, Batista/JBL would be my prediction for SD's big match at Summerslam.They already had a full summer of that. Even a match at Summerslam.

Sarge 2.0
05-05-2006, 05:11 PM
They already had a full summer of that. Even a match at Summerslam.And who said they can't do it again? It's not like it's beneath them to do it, and I can't really think of a big SD match to set up with most of their top guys out of action.

TheVileOne
05-05-2006, 05:12 PM
They already had a full summer of that. Even a match at Summerslam.

They did and it sucked. Batista squashed JBL in 8 minutes.

They also had a match at the Great American Bash last year which also sucked.

So basically WWE will be repeating the same garbage they did last year if they do this.

If Rey Mysterio can be the GREATEST UNDERDOG WORLD CHAMPION OF ALL TIME, I see no reason Benoit can't be champ again.

Hunter Rider
05-05-2006, 05:13 PM
Then we disagree.

It's not Benoit's fault that the writers in the back can't think of anything good for him. Same with Regal.

However, both those wrestlers can outshine any **** they're given to work with
Disagree how ? i never said Benoit was not good but he has a role,he is gonna tag with Gunner and help get the guy over
Regal is a good worker that has been jobbing for ages now,there isnt any angle that could make him into a credible champ in such a short space of time
Booker is nicely positioned to be champ right now as he is over in a big way

The FallenAngel
05-05-2006, 05:13 PM
And who said they can't do it again? It's not like it's beneath them to do it, and I can't really think of a big SD match to set up with most of their top guys out of action.Never said they couldn't. I just can't see a feud over the title with the two of them coming back so soon, though.

Hunter Rider
05-05-2006, 05:14 PM
They did and it sucked. Batista squashed JBL in 8 minutes.

They also had a match at the Great American Bash last year which also sucked.

So basically WWE will be repeating the same garbage they did last year if they do this.

If Rey Mysterio can be the GREATEST UNDERDOG WORLD CHAMPION OF ALL TIME, I see no reason Benoit can't be champ again.
Rey would have been dropping the belt to Orton quickly if Orton wasn't a douche
Whoever they put the belt on is just a stop gap until Batista gets back anyway
I doubt they will run Batista/JBL again

TheVileOne
05-05-2006, 05:15 PM
Disagree how ? i never said Benoit was not good but he has a role,he is gonna tag with Gunner and help get the guy over
Regal is a good worker that has been jobbing for ages now,there isnt any angle that could make him into a credible champ in such a short space of time
Booker is nicely positioned to be champ right now as he is over in a big way

Except he keeps saying he is going to retire every year.

Sarge 2.0
05-05-2006, 05:15 PM
Never said they couldn't. I just can't see a feud over the title with the two of them coming back so soon, though.Unless Batista picks up where he left off with Mizark, there's nothing else for him really.

TheVileOne
05-05-2006, 05:17 PM
Benoit is actually a guy that will make Batista look great in the ring if Batista is world champion again.

Addendum
05-05-2006, 05:17 PM
Disagree how ? i never said Benoit was not good but he has a role,he is gonna tag with Gunner and help get the guy over
Regal is a good worker that has been jobbing for ages now,there isnt any angle that could make him into a credible champ in such a short space of time
Booker is nicely positioned to be champ right now as he is over in a big way
I think all 3, IF GIVEN THE CHANCE, can be legit champs.

The WWE lacks balls, hence Bradshaw as champ... again... woot

Sabretooth
05-05-2006, 05:20 PM
I dunno about that. Weren't other former OVW champions Nick Dinsmore, Rob Conway and the Bashams? :confused: :(
All of those guys are very talented,it's just WWE took a crap on all of their careers.

Hunter Rider
05-05-2006, 05:22 PM
I think all 3, IF GIVEN THE CHANCE, can be legit champs.

The WWE lacks balls, hence Bradshaw as champ... again... woot

Whoever they choose to make champ is only for the short term,JBL is a decent worker and over huge with great heat,he's the ideal choice for a short run before Batista gets it
Benoit was a good champ,Booker now could be but i never saw it before and Regal is an awesome worker so maybe if a few years ago they had made him more of a main event guy then yes

TheVileOne
05-05-2006, 05:23 PM
JBL was a ham and egger jobber before he was booked as a main event champion.

And Regal who has great charisma and mic skills, I see no reason he can't be champion if they can make JBL champ.

Hunter Rider
05-05-2006, 05:28 PM
JBL was a ham and egger jobber before he was booked as a main event champion.

And Regal who has great charisma and mic skills, I see no reason he can't be champion if they can make JBL champ.



The reason they aren't gonna make Regal champion at this point is because whoever takes the belt off Rey is only short term and needs ready bult main event status which JBL has at this short notice
Regal would need a year of build to undo all his jobbing

Sabretooth
05-05-2006, 05:32 PM
Even though there are a bunch of wrestlers better to put over Rey than JBL.

JBL's who's title reign was painful torture and gave us some of the worst main events ever.
The F are you talking about? I agree JBL shouldn't be getting the title again,but the man is a great heel on TV. Maybe because he's a real douchebag in real life,too. He's not a good wrestler,but he can bump like crazy.

Addendum
05-05-2006, 05:35 PM
JBL got noticed as part of the APA.

Many people remember that.

TheVileOne
05-05-2006, 05:35 PM
The reason they aren't gonna make Regal champion at this point is because whoever takes the belt off Rey is only short term and needs ready bult main event status which JBL has at this short notice
Regal would need a year of build to undo all his jobbing

It didn't take a year for JBL. You know how long it took? The first show after Wrestlemania.

Jason Blood
05-05-2006, 05:36 PM
JBL had the best damn CHC (Chicken Heel Champ) run in the past god knows how long

JBL's reign was the best championship run in many years

Edge had a great one too, but they took the strap off him for some reason...

TheVileOne
05-05-2006, 05:36 PM
The F are you talking about? I agree JBL shouldn't be getting the title again,but the man is a great heel on TV. Maybe because he's a real douchebag in real life,too. He's not a good wrestler,but he can bump like crazy.

What about a worker than is a good wrestler AND can bump like crazy?

He's already the US champion which he won off of a lame feud with Benoit.

Hunter Rider
05-05-2006, 05:38 PM
It didn't take a year for JBL. You know how long it took? The first show after Wrestlemania.

And he was never over the whole run,it was a horrible title run but by the end he had grown into a solid heel,he was a needs must champ and had been protected as a badass in the APA for years
It's all irrelevant as the point is in this case is they got sidelined with two injuries and a douche so they need a quick 2 month champ until Batista comes back which makes JBL the smart choice

Jason Blood
05-05-2006, 05:38 PM
It didn't take a year for JBL. You know how long it took? The first show after Wrestlemania.
he pretty much shot up like a rocket all of a sudden...

Addendum
05-05-2006, 05:39 PM
And he was never over the whole run,it was a horrible title run but by the end he had grown into a solid heel,he was a needs must champ and had been protected as a badass in the APA for years
It's all irrelevant as the point is in this case is they got sidelined with two injuries and a douche so they need a quick 2 month champ until Batista comes back which makes JBL the smart choice
I could never type that with a straight face :D

Hunter Rider
05-05-2006, 05:39 PM
I could never type that with a straight face :D

What ?:confused:

Sabretooth
05-05-2006, 05:40 PM
What about a worker than is a good wrestler AND can bump like crazy?

He's already the US champion which he won off of a lame feud with Benoit.
And who would that guy be? Regal? No. Why suddenly put him in the main event for the reasons mentioned above,but also because he's in a feud with Pirate Paul that'll probably last until SummerSlam?

The only other guy I can see on SD! that could take the title off is Booker T,but he'll already (hopefully) be King Booker. :(

Addendum
05-05-2006, 05:41 PM
What ?:confused:
Taking JBL seriously. I just can't.

The FallenAngel
05-05-2006, 05:42 PM
Where the hell is Kennedy?! I thought they were gonna give him Orton's spot, and SD! can really use him now.

Jason Blood
05-05-2006, 05:42 PM
WTF is up with Pirate Paul losing to ****ing Road Warrior on Velocity?

that's retarded

Jason Blood
05-05-2006, 05:43 PM
Where the hell is Kennedy?! I thought they were gonna give him Orton's spot, and SD! can really use him now.
6 months bro

*cries*

Addendum
05-05-2006, 05:43 PM
And who would that guy be? Regal? No. Why suddenly put him in the main event for the reasons mentioned above,but also because he's in a feud with Pirate Paul that'll probably last until SummerSlam?

The only other guy I can see on SD! that could take the title off is Booker T,but he'll already (hopefully) be King Booker. :(
Which is why I said Regal could be champ if given the chance. I'm not saying ****ing overnight. Give him the opportunity to become champ instead of permantly sticking him in mid-card matches so people can hit the can, or get some more soda during the show.

Hunter Rider
05-05-2006, 05:43 PM
Taking JBL seriously. I just can't.

He's a good worker and a great character with real overness and heat whats not to take seriosuly about putting him

Addendum
05-05-2006, 05:46 PM
He's a good worker and a great character with real overness and heat whats not to take seriosuly about putting him
Read. my. damned. posts. that state why.

No matter what he does as some cowboy riding around in a limo with horns on it, which is damned ridiculous, he is forever Bradshaw: the guy who needs beer money and gets pissed when you **** with his poker game.

Sarge 2.0
05-05-2006, 05:48 PM
Read. my. damned. posts. that state why.

No matter what he does as some cowboy riding around in a limo with horns on it, which is damned ridiculous, he is forever Bradshaw: the guy who needs beer money and gets pissed when you **** with his poker game.I think the JBL character will be remembered much more than the Bradshaw character for his lengthy title reign alone.

Hunter Rider
05-05-2006, 05:55 PM
Read. my. damned. posts. that state why.

No matter what he does as some cowboy riding around in a limo with horns on it, which is damned ridiculous, he is forever Bradshaw: the guy who needs beer money and gets pissed when you **** with his poker game.

Just as well i managed to get past Stunning Steve and The Rocker then

TheVileOne
05-05-2006, 05:59 PM
I think the JBL character will be remembered much more than the Bradshaw character for his lengthy title reign alone.

I think most fans will remember how much his title reign sucked, the end of which was symbolic of that.

hunter rider, my point was, WWE basically pushed JBL to the main event scene overnight even though he was just getting off basically a jobber, ham n egger run, because that's what WWE does really.

Benoit/Batista is a match I'd actually pay to see. I'm not going to pay to see more crappy JBL/Batista matches. A feud they ran into the ground last year and never produced any quality matches.

Addendum
05-05-2006, 06:07 PM
Just as well i managed to get past Stunning Steve and The Rocker then
As did I. JBL has shown me nothing that deserved to be called "champ"

The FallenAngel
05-05-2006, 07:03 PM
If some of you haven't seen it yet, there is a great little match on Heat this week between Haas and Jimmy Yang. Yang is under his former "Akio" persona. It looks like he might re-sign with them.

TheVileOne
05-05-2006, 07:06 PM
Hopefully not. I like Yang in ROH.

Sarge 2.0
05-05-2006, 07:08 PM
Yang has kind of bored me, especially being stuck in four corner survival/tag team scramble type matches most of the time. I've yet to be truly impressed by his run in ROH.

TheVileOne
05-05-2006, 07:11 PM
He had great matches with Gibson, Strong, and Daniels last year.

He did great in the Trios tournament.

Had a good singles match with Jay Lethal.

I'm anxious to see his world title match with Danielson.

Sarge 2.0
05-05-2006, 07:15 PM
His Strong rematch at Arena Warfare was subpar, especially live. Some vanilla matches since the begining of 06 won't really impress me. I heard his match with Danielson was decent, but AmDrag did some carrying.

The FallenAngel
05-05-2006, 07:24 PM
Most of the people who saw AmDrag/Yang live said he stepped up big time. All of his strikes were extra stiff and he pulled out lots of new stuff.

Jason Blood
05-05-2006, 07:25 PM
any word on O'Haire yet?

I really miss his awesomeness

Twitch
05-05-2006, 07:31 PM
I tracked down an AmDrag CAW for HCTP yay :up:

All I want now is a KENTA moveset for HCTP and my life will be complete.

Addendum
05-05-2006, 07:33 PM
They still have Heat and Velocity?

Sarge 2.0
05-05-2006, 07:36 PM
They still have Heat and Velocity?Yep. guys like C.M. Punk and Colt Cabana have appeared on Heat, and Velocity is probably getting axed so that ECW can take it's spot temporarily until they can get a television deal for it.

Addendum
05-05-2006, 07:44 PM
Oh. I've not seen either show on TV for a while, long before the ECW announcement