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iron_man7
10-20-2003, 10:41 PM
Star Wars: Episodes 7-9: Rumours of George Lucas following up his original trilogy with another down the track have been around for years - some were solid information, most were just wishful thinking. As a result unless something solid comes through on them I'm not touching speculation on the topic with a ten foot pole. Well today came word which whilst not solid, is from an insider source whose regularly provided totally accurate intel so far for over two years on a variety of projects so I tend to take his word for it. If true, its also good news for fans let down by the prequels: "One of my pals at ILM told me a few days back that another trilogy 'might' happen. This is the sequel trilogy that Lucas said he'd never do. It's very very early days yet, but apparently there is some talk, even to the point of Mr Spielberg - who was interested in doing 'Clones' at one point - stepping in for Lucas, who may want to write, but probably won't want to direct. If Lucas doesn't they'll probably work out a deal for say Frank Darabont to pen (ala the current "Indiana Jones IV" arrangement). This one would be the three films following Return of the Jedi, Han Solo, Skywalker, post-Darth etc. How hard of a time are they going to have on their hands getting some of those original players! ha ha! finally a fitting use for CGI hey? The deal is everyone wants the sequels, except Lucas, who is apparently exhausted [Personally I'd say studio pressure]. If Spielberg directs, it could be ok. Better than those terrible prequel movies". Thanks to 'Wookie Walker'.
venom340
10-20-2003, 10:56 PM
Ii'd be cool if they did more SW movies IMO, but I think they should touch on other subjects rather than put an epilouge on a good 6-part series.
BeserkerHilf
10-20-2003, 10:57 PM
o. god. no.
STINK-E
10-20-2003, 10:57 PM
Where'd you see this?
BlackSymbiote
10-20-2003, 10:58 PM
That would be cool, but he's right, they would have a hell of a time grabbing Hamil, Ford, and Fisher.
'Course last I heard Mark Hamil was only doing cartoon voices, and Carrie Fisher was just doing bit cameos. They may be a little easier to snag as opposed to Ford, who seems to be the only one who managed to keep a career after Star Wars.
venom340
10-20-2003, 10:59 PM
That's one thing that would be kinda stupid, they'd all be old and s h i t.
Lighthouse
10-20-2003, 11:00 PM
Star Wars should stop after the trilogy. From what I've seen, most of the actors on the current one are glad its over. Mostly their complaints are about how boring it is because they have to act with a tennis ball, which is part of the reason why the acting is so wooden. Star Wars needs to stop.
incurock31
10-20-2003, 11:00 PM
Dude.
Please no. Please God no. :(
iron_man7
10-20-2003, 11:45 PM
heres how i see it if they made a trilogy
han and leiha(sp) get married and have 2 jedi twins one trains with her brother luke who is kinda the obi won type in this movie and the other one goes off and joins the dark side later on luke and and evil twin fight bla blah it could work
or i always wanted to see a movie based on shadows of the empire the book
Lord Blackbolt
10-20-2003, 11:55 PM
meh
WarBlade
10-20-2003, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by iron_man7
It's very very early days yet, but apparently there is some talk, even to the point of Mr Spielberg - who was interested in doing 'Clones' at one point - stepping in for Lucas,
Woo-hoo!
who may want to write,
Goddammit!
but probably won't want to direct.
YES!!!
Ok, bring on Darabont. Whoever Darabont is.
As for this 'news', it's been rumour for the last 20 years and this installment doesn't look any more promising. You'll have to excuse me if I don't hold my breath. ;)
STINK-E
10-21-2003, 12:23 AM
It'll never happen, though I'd be all for it.
Transcended
10-21-2003, 12:55 AM
Not going to happen.
I guarantee you.
The Joker
10-21-2003, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by BlackSymbiote
That would be cool, but he's right, they would have a hell of a time grabbing Hamil, Ford, and Fisher.
'Course last I heard Mark Hamil was only doing cartoon voices, and Carrie Fisher was just doing bit cameos. They may be a little easier to snag as opposed to Ford, who seems to be the only one who managed to keep a career after Star Wars.
Hamil is actually doing a mock-umentary on comic books, and has had an extremly sucessfull voice acting career
I'd be all for it :) An average Star Wars movie is still 24549 times better than watching most of the crap released in theatres :D
Transcended
10-21-2003, 01:45 AM
But it would be nothing more than an epilogue.
Anakin's story ends with Return of the Jedi.
Personally, I think the franchise is finished. And I'm one of the few people here who actually likes and supports the prequels.
There is simply no reason to drag the saga out any further. We're on the verge of seeing the completion of a great, epic story arc that has been meticulously crafted over the course of 25 years. Let's let that be.
Originally posted by Transcended
But it would be nothing more than an epilogue.
Anakin's story ends with Return of the Jedi.
Personally, I think the franchise is finished. And I'm one of the few people here who actually likes and supports the prequels.
There is simply no reason to drag the saga out any further. We're on the verge of seeing the completion of a great, epic story arc that has been meticulously crafted over the course of 25 years. Let's let that be.
NO :mad:
I want a new Star Wars movie every 2 years for the next 20 years at least :)
Balthus Dire
10-21-2003, 01:54 AM
If anything, I think Lucas will do the re-re-release of Episodes 4-6 with all the added scenes and CGI effects. And I'm already pissed enough about that.
They'll never do another 3 films. Ever.
Roughneck
10-21-2003, 02:41 AM
If they were goint to do 7 8 and 9 they shoudl have done them in the 80 or 90's. Now I believe that they shoudl have made 4 5 and 6 and then shot Lucas in the head.
el brujo138
10-21-2003, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by Transcended
But it would be nothing more than an epilogue.
Anakin's story ends with Return of the Jedi.
Personally, I think the franchise is finished. And I'm one of the few people here who actually likes and supports the prequels.
There is simply no reason to drag the saga out any further. We're on the verge of seeing the completion of a great, epic story arc that has been meticulously crafted over the course of 25 years. Let's let that be.
Yep this is not going to happen. Lucas had plans back ine 70s to make 7, 8, 9 but the story he was going to use was crammed together in Return Of The Jedi. The Emperor was not going to show up until 9 and 7 and 8 were going to be about Luke looking for his sister who was not going to be Leia. All that was put in ROTJ.
7, 8 and 9 are just not going to happen because there is no story to them, Star Wars ends with Anakin fulfilling the prophecy by destroying the Emperor and returning balance to the force. That`s the story of Star Wars, the rise, fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker.
Kevin Roegele
10-21-2003, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by el brujo138
Yep this is not going to happen. Lucas had plans back ine 70s to make 7, 8, 9 but the story he was going to use was crammed together in Return Of The Jedi. The Emperor was not going to show up until 9 and 7 and 8 were going to be about Luke looking for his sister who was not going to be Leia. All that was put in ROTJ.
7, 8 and 9 are just not going to happen because there is no story to them, Star Wars ends with Anakin fulfilling the prophecy by destroying the Emperor and returning balance to the force. That`s the story of Star Wars, the rise, fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker.
Abso-bloody-EXACTLY.
All this is fan wish-forfillment.
Originally posted by iron_man7
except Lucas, who is apparently exhausted [Personally I'd say studio pressure]. If Spielberg directs, it could be ok. Better than those terrible prequel movies". Thanks to 'Wookie Walker'.
Exhausted? Yes, I imagine it does take quite the effort in rupturing your anus by producing such festering crap one after the other. Studio pressure? HAHAHA! The guy owns star wars and everything worth of note pertaining to it, what are the studio's going to do? Stop giving him money? What money, he could burn Fox's money and have their company heads shot. Merchandising alone could continue producing those abominations. And spielberg, that guy has gone downhill with every movie for quite some time now. The ET stint alone makes him almost as bad as that hack Lucas. Looking back at his career, most of it was contempary cookie-cutter nonsense playing to a fad at the time. I never was a spielberg fan though.
Since when was it about Anakin, George keeps making stuff up about what was 'meant' to be... contradicting himself every other sentance. The greedo shooting first incident alone makes his word about as reliable as a piss-stained hooker dripping opium. The movies could follow the books, although that would probably end up worse than the sequels... hard to imagine. I would of supported any star wars foray but with Lucas still in charge after the gauntlet to the face that are so far the prequels... never. Wait until he kicks the bucket or someone steals the rights from him before making another.
All in all, a bad idea IMHO.
bluejake01
10-21-2003, 08:53 AM
Everone that has decided that the Star Wars saga was always just supposed to be Anakin's story...news flash...it was not the original plan at all. Read all the early treatments and scriptments for Star Wars...it is nothing like it is now. It wasn't even called A New Hope until after Empire was named episode 5. It was Gary Kurtz and George Lucas who decided after the fact to make them the middle of the story. George Lucas' orginal ideas really don't even see any screen time till this abominable prequel Trilogy, and only then are small bits used...such as names and locations. If you loved the characters from the original trilogy, then thank everyone else involved with Star Wars, other than George Lucas. None of his original character ideas made it into the final film. Ralph McQuarie had a lot more imput on the characters than people really seem to grasp and Gary Kurtz supplied much of the final story as well. Gary Kurtz to this day refuses to work with the hack, film equivilant of Bill Gate's known as George Lucas. He got where he is by stealing ideas, pirating new technology, and buying out the competition. ILM may be the best in the business...but only because they operate like a mafia.
Kevin Roegele
10-21-2003, 09:38 AM
Sometimes I think it would be better for everyone if Star Wars had never been made, lol....
Batman 5
10-21-2003, 02:37 PM
LOL, you took the words right out of my mouth
wiegeabo
10-21-2003, 02:59 PM
When word that Lucas was doing the prequels came out, there was speculation that he would also do sequels to the original movies. They were going to be based on the Timothy Zahn books that followed the series (Heir to the Empire, Dark Forces, and The Last Command). Lucas initially wanted to do them, but realized he'd be spending the next 10-20 years of his life only doing Star Wars, so he decided to stop with the prequels.
The Zahn books were great, and might make great movies. If Lucas wants to let someone else take the helm, fine by me. The trouble will be recasting Luke, Han, and the rest. We were all spoiled by the original actors.
Originally posted by Lighthouse
Star Wars should stop after the trilogy. From what I've seen, most of the actors on the current one are glad its over. Mostly their complaints are about how boring it is because they have to act with a tennis ball, which is part of the reason why the acting is so wooden. Star Wars needs to stop.
Maybe they should keep making Star Wars movies, and stop acting with tennis balls. I have a novel idea Mr. Lucas, stop relying on special effects. They do have their place, but it's not in place of the whole movie! How about some real sets, actors, characters, and action.
SolomonGrundy
10-21-2003, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by JcDc
I'd be all for it :) An average Star Wars movie is still 24549 times better than watching most of the crap released in theatres :D
Hmmm? I actually feel exactly the opposite.
Meaning that an "average" Star Wars movie stands out even more so as a disapointment as we have seen the property at it's finest from the first two films.
Kevin Roegele
10-21-2003, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by wiegeabo
When word that Lucas was doing the prequels came out, there was speculation that he would also do sequels to the original movies. They were going to be based on the Timothy Zahn books that followed the series (Heir to the Empire, Dark Forces, and The Last Command). Lucas initially wanted to do them, but realized he'd be spending the next 10-20 years of his life only doing Star Wars, so he decided to stop with the prequels.
That's such obvious famboy wish-forfillment nonsense. Lucas would never make a movie based on someone's Star Wars novel. He proberbaly hasn't even read it.
wiegeabo
10-21-2003, 05:55 PM
Lucas is the one who authorized the books! According to Lucas, the Zahn trilogy can be considered Star Wars cannon. He was involved with the stories (how much, I'm not sure). But these books are officially sanctioned by Lucas.
I watched the interview where he said he had initially planned on doing more sequels, but decided it would take too much time away from his family, and wouldn't let him work on other projects.
Transcended
10-21-2003, 07:51 PM
"There are two worlds here. There's my world, which is the movies, and there's this other world that has been created, which I say is the parallel universe - the licensing world of the books, games and comic books. They don't intrude on my world, which is a select period of time, [but] they do intrude in between the movies. I don't get too involved in the parallel universe."
- George Lucas
Spidey_Freak
10-21-2003, 08:42 PM
For some reason the hype hates the new star wars, of course im a 13 year old kid who dont care about plot and loves cgi:o
venom340
10-21-2003, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Spidey_Freak
For some reason the hype hates the new star wars, of course im a 13 year old kid who dont care about plot and loves cgi:o
Do you seriously not care about the plot of a movie?
Isildurīs Heir
10-21-2003, 09:04 PM
Before AOTC came out, they asked if Lucas was thinking about making more movies about Star Wars....he said no.
I donīt dislike the idea totally, Dark Horse is making comic books about the Star Wars mythos for a long time now (hell, DH fame came from there) with Lucas Film (so the books are indeed oficial and they tell the all mythos).
If they make adaptations of that...it would rock!!
On another note....
It was said, before AOTC that Lucas and Spielberg were having a lot of meetings with Hugh Jackman.
One rumour that came out was that Hugh would be Indiana Jones insted of Harrison Ford......another was that he was going to appear in the Star Wars last movie (that didnīt happend).
Is he going to be Hand Solo?
That was another rumour, because Harrison is too old to play him (he is too old for Indy too, but that is another story)
It would ROCK!! :D :cool: :up:
Lord Blackbolt
10-21-2003, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Transcended
"There are two worlds here. There's my world, which is the movies, and there's this other world that has been created, which I say is the parallel universe - the licensing world of the books, games and comic books. They don't intrude on my world, which is a select period of time, [but] they do intrude in between the movies. I don't get too involved in the parallel universe."
- George Lucas
Strange.... maybe he should hire the people that wrote the books and comics... cause I think Lucas is a ****ing terrible writer and is a ****ing hack and too caught up in his own **** to know what real drama is.
The comics and novels are a hundred times better than any of the prequels IMO
Lord Blackbolt
10-21-2003, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by Isildurīs Heir
Before AOTC came out, they asked if Lucas was thinking about making more movies about Star Wars....he said no.
I donīt dislike the idea totally, Dark Horse is making comic books about the Star Wars mythos for a long time now (hell, DH fame came from there) with Lucas Film (so the books are indeed oficial and they tell the all mythos).
If they make adaptations of that...it would rock!!
On another note....
It was said, before AOTC that Lucas and Spielberg were having a lot of meetings with Hugh Jackman.
One rumour that came out was that Hugh would be Indiana Jones insted of Harrison Ford......another was that he was going to appear in the Star Wars last movie (that didnīt happend).
Is he going to be Hand Solo?
That was another rumour, because Harrison is too old to play him (he is too old for Indy too, but that is another story)
It would ROCK!! :D :cool: :up:
Jackman playing Han Solo is a great idea. Wolverine is basically the Han Solo of the X-men universe... so it's perfect.
I just don't know who would play Luke and Lea?
Maybe James Marsdan and Famke Jansen:):)
DDRSkata
10-21-2003, 11:36 PM
Jackman as Solo, Knightley as Leia, I don't know who as Luke.
Transcended
10-21-2003, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by Lord Blackbolt
Strange.... maybe he should hire the people that wrote the books and comics... cause I think Lucas is a ****ing terrible writer and is a ****ing hack and too caught up in his own **** to know what real drama is.
The comics and novels are a hundred times better than any of the prequels IMO
That's nice. I happen to think the Expanded Universe is generic, formulaic science fiction; which Star Wars is not.
Lord Blackbolt
10-22-2003, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by Transcended
That's nice. I happen to think the Expanded Universe is generic, formulaic science fiction.
I Thought that was the prequels
Transcended
10-22-2003, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by Lord Blackbolt
I Thought that was the prequels
Whether you love or hate his work, I doubt anything Lucas does could be considered "generic".
cyborg ninja 14
10-22-2003, 01:34 AM
Lucas needs to finish out on a high note for Episode 5 then put Star Wars to rest.
QuiGonJosh
10-22-2003, 06:20 AM
LUCAS IS GENIUS!
Kevin Roegele
10-22-2003, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by wiegeabo
Lucas is the one who authorized the books! According to Lucas, the Zahn trilogy can be considered Star Wars cannon. He was involved with the stories (how much, I'm not sure). But these books are officially sanctioned by Lucas.
I watched the interview where he said he had initially planned on doing more sequels, but decided it would take too much time away from his family, and wouldn't let him work on other projects.
I know Lucas sanctioned the books. I think they'd have a problem putting the Star Wars logo on something he didn't sanction.
Immortalfire
10-22-2003, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by QuiGonJosh
LUCAS IS GENIUS! Anyone else hear that pin drop?
bluejake01
10-22-2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Transcended
Whether you love or hate his work, I doubt anything Lucas does could be considered "generic".
A story about a future where people are numbered and everything is sterile and clinical. A place where individuality is frowned upon and ultimately punished. The story of a man trying to break free of the system. Yeah, that wasn't formuliac drivel that raped concepts done before, and done better by some of the most prolific Sci-Fi writers of the 20th century, or anything :rolleyes: ...rather generic, IMO
A coming of age story that takes place all in one night, where crazy misadventures happen to a group of teens in the central valley of California....Excuse me If I think that's really a borrowed concept, and rather generic. It reminded me of Cannery Row, and some of the 50's teen movies all rolled into one jumbled mess. I liked it, but that was for the great, real performances by many of the lead actors, rather than the borrowed story. The elements from Lucas' life were indeed the biggest influences, but it had been done before, by other people writing about thier teen years. It is a classic, generic starting point for many movies and books. Hell I am making one right now, I know it is generic, but generic isn't always bad.
Then Star Wars...which was amazing...and oddly enough...most of what it became on screen didn't come from Lucas...Imagine that...his first drafts were generic, folrmulaic sci-fi, so much so that no studio would back it. It wasn't until Ralph Mc Quarrie came aboard and started visualizing the universe and creating characters that would be exciting to watch that it caught interest. The final product was shaped by talented artists, actors and much of the final story came from Gary Kurtz. It was not generic, but it was derivitive. Most everything is. But Star Wars was fresh, and exciting. People want to act like George Lucas is a pioneer...fine, think what you will. I think it takes a little bit more than stealing people's work and technology, and surrounding yourself by people thousands of times more talented than you, to make you a pioneer. He has so little actual screenwriting and directing experience it's not even funny.
There are some really great EU novels, that represent what is great about Star Wars. I have read 14 of them, and only found 5 of them to be generic, even though they were still enjoyable. They didn't disrespect the fans, or sacrifice story for action like some Star Wars projects I can think of.
Transcended
10-22-2003, 09:51 PM
Perhaps I'm not making myself clear. I simply think Lucas has a great imagination. His influences and inspirations aside, whether or not he's the greatest writer or director in the world aside, the fact remains he's a wonderful creative mind and a great storyteller. You can all deny that and bash him till kingdom come but Star Wars and Indiana Jones didn't just spring from a pool of concepts on their own.
I called the EU generic because it's regular old-fashioned scifi, which there's nothing wrong with - but for me, the films transcend such a classification. Star Wars - the film saga - is more fantasy than anything, a modern myth, and one of the greatest. The structure, the archetypes, the stages of the hero's journey, the symbolism and imagery - there is more depth and subtlety to the saga (yes, even the prequels) than most people will acknowledge or even recognize.
I simply don't find this quality in the EU. I can't see any of it really happening in the movie universe; there's something stale about it in comparison.
That's all I meant by my comment.
mg_productions
10-22-2003, 11:22 PM
I think they could do it.And it would work.But they should wait like 10 years or something like that.Make the anticipation like it was in the 90's.
But when they do them, they should do them Lord of the Rings style.Make it one long filming session over the course of a long time.Have them all done,and release them over the course of 3 summers.
As far as getting the same actors,I don't think you really need to see the same people.I mean,if you do,everyone will complain about how old they look and if you don't, they will complain that it's not the original actors.The time period between Episode one and two is how long?I don't know and don't really want to guess because everyone will bite my head off.But they could advance time long enough to maybe kill them off.I don't know,I'm not a writer.
I did come up with an idea though.If they were to do a part....7?How about they bring in the grizzled Ford as Han Solo and being the only remaining survivor we know of some great war that started with the murder of Skywalker or something like that.I think opening it up with Solo, grizzled vet of yet another war,would kick ass.It would 'splain the age and it would be interesting me.To me at least.
Danger Mouse
10-22-2003, 11:46 PM
Do a Jacen/Jaina story in their adulthood. Get Ford and/or Hamill to cameo as Dad/Uncle. Timeline could easily be set at 40 years after ROTJ.
bluejake01
10-23-2003, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by Transcended
Perhaps I'm not making myself clear. I simply think Lucas has a great imagination. His influences and inspirations aside, whether or not he's the greatest writer or director in the world aside, the fact remains he's a wonderful creative mind and a great storyteller. You can all deny that and bash him till kingdom come but Star Wars and Indiana Jones didn't just spring from a pool of concepts on their own.
I called the EU generic because it's regular old-fashioned scifi, which there's nothing wrong with - but for me, the films transcend such a classification. Star Wars - the film saga - is more fantasy than anything, a modern myth, and one of the greatest. The structure, the archetypes, the stages of the hero's journey, the symbolism and imagery - there is more depth and subtlety to the saga (yes, even the prequels) than most people will acknowledge or even recognize.
I simply don't find this quality in the EU. I can't see any of it really happening in the movie universe; there's something stale about it in comparison.
That's all I meant by my comment.
And all the things that you revere Star Wars for are valid. The problem occurs when you give a hack scam artist all the credit. Star Wars is far more than George Lucas had ever meant it to be. He claims to have had grand ideas...but the more you talk to people that know him, and were involved with the OT, the more you realize he has but one strength...bringing together very talented people and exploiting them. Indiana Jones was his idea at first. Sure how original...lets do our own version of the old adventurer/tomb raider...only we will really amp up the action and mysticism. That was his idea. Other than naming him based on his dog...the rest of what Indiana Jones became is again, the hard labor of someone else. I stand by all statements I have ever made about the man...and I have tried to stay away from bashing. It's hard though, when the man is such an amoral bastard hack...
Lowbacca
07-07-2006, 08:29 PM
Bah!! None of you know what you're talking about except for a select few. Bah!! He CANT do Timothy Zahn's trilogy because the actors are too old. If he based the movies off of novels, they'd have to be The New Jedi Order. But that's way too big of a series, and it would just suck compared to the books. I actually like what someone said about luke dying, and han being mr angry bones. I think a couple main people should just be dead. Even Han, because Harrison Ford WONT do it, he actually wanted to kill Han in Episode 5 or 6 i dont remember which one.
And the whole thing about how Lucas is a hack is bullcrap. WHat are you doing in this forum if you dont like star wars! GO AWAY!! Now, i DID hear a rumor about them making a star wars tv series, which would be fun. But...I'm more of a movie fan. Oh, and the comment about not relying on CGI as much... You are SO right. Way too much of it. Almost in ALL sci fi movies.
However, I'm in the mood for a different taste. Someone else should write it, and someone else should direct them. Actually, Troy denning should write them. He amazing. Read star wars star by star, that book is amazing, its the best star wars book ever. So, yeah i think im done now
Speedball
07-07-2006, 08:43 PM
Bah!! None of you know what you're talking about except for a select few. Bah!! He CANT do Timothy Zahn's trilogy because the actors are too old. If he based the movies off of novels, they'd have to be The New Jedi Order. But that's way too big of a series, and it would just suck compared to the books. I actually like what someone said about luke dying, and han being mr angry bones. I think a couple main people should just be dead. Even Han, because Harrison Ford WONT do it, he actually wanted to kill Han in Episode 5 or 6 i dont remember which one.
And the whole thing about how Lucas is a hack is bullcrap. WHat are you doing in this forum if you dont like star wars! GO AWAY!! Now, i DID hear a rumor about them making a star wars tv series, which would be fun. But...I'm more of a movie fan. Oh, and the comment about not relying on CGI as much... You are SO right. Way too much of it. Almost in ALL sci fi movies.
However, I'm in the mood for a different taste. Someone else should write it, and someone else should direct them. Actually, Troy denning should write them. He amazing. Read star wars star by star, that book is amazing, its the best star wars book ever. So, yeah i think im done now
He could do it like what Legacy has done, but instead it takes place 1,000 years into the future. Or, he could go all the way back to KOTOR's time, and start with the beginning of the Skywalker family.
FaT_tONle
07-07-2006, 09:36 PM
He could do it like what Legacy has done, but instead it takes place 1,000 years into the future. Or, he could go all the way back to KOTOR's time, and start with the beginning of the Skywalker family.
Lucas has the drafts up though... maybe his kids will continue it... maybe another director will take it up... but the drafts are out there... I would not be suprised if it came 15 years from now
Immortalfire
07-07-2006, 10:08 PM
Why did he bump this :rolleyes:
Kevin Roegele
07-07-2006, 10:15 PM
I'll type this every day if I have to:
No Episodes VII-IX. The story is finished. If you understand anything about storytelling you can see that. There is no way it would be possible for anymore episodes, Star Wars is a story which has ended.
Speedball
07-07-2006, 10:18 PM
No the story hasn't ended.
It lives on in the books and comics.
The films story might be ended, but the story itself has not ended.
CConn
07-07-2006, 10:18 PM
I'll type this every day if I have to:
No Episodes VII-IX. The story is finished. If you understand anything about storytelling you can see that. There is no way it would be possible for anymore episodes, Star Wars is a story which has ended.And I'll tell you again, no one cares. Give up trying to convince everyone of your theory.
<(o_o)>
07-07-2006, 10:21 PM
I would like to see a Yoda spinoff movie. It could serve as a prequel to Star Wars. Seeing his life before & how he became a Jedi would be interesting, & how the whole prophecy came to be about the one who would come along & destroy the Sith.
bluejake01
07-08-2006, 12:18 AM
And the whole thing about how Lucas is a hack is bullcrap. WHat are you doing in this forum if you dont like star wars! GO AWAY!!
I am here in this thread because I love Star Wars...but Star Wars is so much more than George Lucas. His involvement with the OT was negligible, and the PT was lack luster, thanks to his ill advised choice to do everything himself. Some of the best Star Wars elements ame from people other than him, and the greatest Star Wars universe stories were written by other authors.
Creatively speaking Lucas is a hack...that much is agreed upon by all the people I have worked with in the film industry.
FaT_tONle
07-08-2006, 12:27 AM
I am here in this thread because I love Star Wars...but Star Wars is so much more than George Lucas. His involvement with the OT was negligible, and the PT was lack luster, thanks to his ill advised choice to do everything himself. Some of the best Star Wars elements ame from people other than him, and the greatest Star Wars universe stories were written by other authors.
Creatively speaking Lucas is a hack...that much is agreed upon by all the people I have worked with in the film industry.
This guys is one of the greatest story tellers ever... hello... he wrote them buddy... sure he took ideas from others, but all the great story tellers get their ideas from their predecessors... but he was the mastermind... u might wanna rethink your position... make no mistake about it... Lucas created Star Wars... (and Indiana Jones)
FaT_tONle
07-08-2006, 12:27 AM
I am here in this thread because I love Star Wars...but Star Wars is so much more than George Lucas. His involvement with the OT was negligible, and the PT was lack luster, thanks to his ill advised choice to do everything himself. Some of the best Star Wars elements ame from people other than him, and the greatest Star Wars universe stories were written by other authors.
Creatively speaking Lucas is a hack...that much is agreed upon by all the people I have worked with in the film industry.
This guys is one of the greatest story tellers ever... hello... he wrote them buddy... sure he took ideas from others, just like how all other great story tellers get their ideas from their predecessors... but he was the mastermind... u might wanna rethink your position... make no mistake about it... Lucas created Star Wars... (and Indiana Jones)
Speedball
07-08-2006, 12:31 AM
I am here in this thread because I love Star Wars...but Star Wars is so much more than George Lucas. His involvement with the OT was negligible, and the PT was lack luster, thanks to his ill advised choice to do everything himself. Some of the best Star Wars elements ame from people other than him, and the greatest Star Wars universe stories were written by other authors.
Creatively speaking Lucas is a hack...that much is agreed upon by all the people I have worked with in the film industry.
He is a Hack at directing, but not at writing. That's why Empire Strikes Back is so superior to the rest of the films.
and i don't think doing everything himself was a smart move either.
When i read Episode III, it was amazing, but then when i saw it on film, it was Great, but not as good as it could have been. All the novels of the prequel films are superior to the films, it seems. It's like i acted it out better in my head than what was on screen. I know they were written by other authors, but most of the dialogue was the same as the script.
Poetic Chaos
07-08-2006, 12:43 AM
To see an aged Mark Hamil as a legendary Jedi to all the new youngbuck knights...Epic.
Speedball
07-08-2006, 12:50 AM
yeah, that would be cool. they are about the right age for the Yuuzhan Vong war. but he shouldn't be then main Character, it should be Jacen and Jaina.
Speedball
07-08-2006, 12:56 AM
And you know who should play Jacen?
Me!
Same height, we even look the same!
Same hair color, eye color, chin, nose. Holy crap i'm weirded out now.
bluejake01
07-08-2006, 03:24 AM
This guys is one of the greatest story tellers ever... hello... he wrote them buddy... sure he took ideas from others, just like how all other great story tellers get their ideas from their predecessors... but he was the mastermind... u might wanna rethink your position... make no mistake about it... Lucas created Star Wars... (and Indiana Jones)
He wrote the script for Star Wars 1977...with a LOT of help from Gary Kurtz, and with 20th Century Fox making him alter his ideas every step of the way. He did not write Empire or Jedi, nor did he direct them. He was going through a bitter divorce and was absent from much of the production of Empire...the best of the OT. He is not a great story teller, he is a fantastic producer and idea man. He admits his own weaknesses...he admits he is a bad writer and director...just watch the interviews he did for Revenge of the Sith.
Lucas created Star Wars, but he was not responsible for it's greatest moments.
bluejake01
07-08-2006, 03:26 AM
He is a Hack at directing, but not at writing. That's why Empire Strikes Back is so superior to the rest of the films.
Well...I disagree on his writing skills...wholeheartedly...BTW he didn't write Empire.
GoldGoblin
07-08-2006, 03:26 AM
Doing t.v. shows will be the thing he will use this technology that he loves on,not on movies.
DDRSkata
07-08-2006, 12:17 PM
Lucas is a great storyteller, and he comes up with great ideas, but he's not a good writer or director.
Kevin Roegele
07-08-2006, 02:40 PM
And I'll tell you again, no one cares. Give up trying to convince everyone of your theory.
It's not 'theory', it's fact, and both Lucas and Rick McCallum have said it themselves.
Kevin Roegele
07-08-2006, 02:41 PM
No the story hasn't ended.
It lives on in the books and comics.
The films story might be ended, but the story itself has not ended.
The books/comics/video games are different stories set within the Star Wars universe.
FaT_tONle
07-08-2006, 02:47 PM
He wrote the script for Star Wars 1977...with a LOT of help from Gary Kurtz, and with 20th Century Fox making him alter his ideas every step of the way. He did not write Empire or Jedi, nor did he direct them. He was going through a bitter divorce and was absent from much of the production of Empire...the best of the OT. He is not a great story teller, he is a fantastic producer and idea man. He admits his own weaknesses...he admits he is a bad writer and director...just watch the interviews he did for Revenge of the Sith.
Lucas created Star Wars, but he was not responsible for it's greatest moments.
But do to the fact that he was the mastermind behind the original... probably the greatest movie of the century... which is by far the best movie of any sequels or prequels... he should get the credit... I never said he was a good director (he is terrible)... even the President of the U.S doesn't write his own ***** for christ sake so ofcourse people would help him out... but yes... he is the best producer and idea man of all time... so we agree there at least
Timstuff
07-08-2006, 02:59 PM
I don't want more SW movies. I think 6 is plenty, and there's really not any story left to tell. The prequels were about the fall of Anakin Skywalker and the rise of the Empire, and the classic trilogy was about the redemption of Anakin and the fall of the Empire. There's nothing left for them to do, so they'd probably be scraping the bottom of the barrel.
CrypticOne
07-08-2006, 03:15 PM
I think Star Wars is over.
Eklypze
07-08-2006, 03:24 PM
if they ever do anymore movies i think it would be really kool if they did a whole new 6 movie saga about The New Jedi Order becuz it would need at least 6 movies but they only bad thing about it would be the lack of light saber duels considering how the vong never used them and honestly lightsaber duels are one of the main things people want to see i mean you would still have the sabers themselves but none of the jedi would be fighting eah other
Warhammer
07-08-2006, 03:32 PM
Star Wars is done to me.
I really like Star Wars, but enough is enough.
boywonder13
07-08-2006, 03:38 PM
"Gary Kurtz, the producer of Epsiodes IV and V, recalls that the outline for a sequel trilogy was "very vague", outlining Skywalker's journey to becoming the premiere Jedi knight in the Obi-Wan Kenobi mold, and his ultimate confrontation with the Emperor. According to Kurtz, early plans for this trilogy would have included the introduction of Luke's sister (who was not slated to be Leia), and the first appearance of the Emperor, elements that were incorporated into Return of the Jedi once Kurtz and Lucas parted ways after The Empire Strikes Back."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_sequel_trilogy
bluejake01
07-08-2006, 07:56 PM
Lucas is a great storyteller, and he comes up with great ideas, but he's not a good writer or director.
SO exactly how is he a great story teller if he can't do the two things needed to tell a story?
Kevin Roegele
07-08-2006, 08:09 PM
In a 1997 issue of the Star Wars Insider, Lucas said "[The whole story has] six episodes....If I ever went beyond that, it would be something that was made up. I really don't have any notion other than 'Gee, it would be interesting to do Luke Skywalker later on.' It wouldn't be part of the main story, but a sequel to this thing."
In a 1999 interview with Vanity Fair, Lucas denied ever having any plans to make nine Star Wars movies. "When you see it in six parts, you'll understand," Lucas said at the time. "It really ends at part six."
Speedball
07-08-2006, 08:22 PM
my god man. the story he wrote ended in Six, but the story continues after that.
That's like saying Buffy and Angel ended after the series ended.
And what about the planned tv series, i guess that never happens in the story line?
Kevin Roegele
07-08-2006, 09:20 PM
my god man. the story he wrote ended in Six, but the story continues after that.
That's like saying Buffy and Angel ended after the series ended.
And what about the planned tv series, i guess that never happens in the story line?
Okay.
Stories have a beginning, middle, and end.
Set-up, complication, resolution.
The story begins in The Phantom Menace, introduces the characters, sets up plotlines. From there everything gets dramatic, the bad guys take control, everything gets dark. Return of the Jedi is the climax, the end, all the plotlines are tied up and the heroes victorious.
If there was to be an Episode VII, it would make RotJ no longer the climax, but part of the middle of the story, while setting up another climax. It would be completely artificial and spoil everything done so far. John William's music refelcts this, it evolves over the six films.
Star Wars is about the rise, fall and redemption of Anakin. Which is done.
Finally, the first three films mirror the second three; Anakin's discovery, training and eventual decision of whether to go Dark Side or not mirror the path of Luke. Lucas has set this all up, it's exactly how he wants it and he's not going to mess it up.
Star Wars is a story. That story has been told. Anything else would be, as Lucas says, a sequel. Set in the same universe as Star Wars, but not Star Wars - because the Star Wars are over.
Buffy and Angel are TV shows. They have numerous stories featuring the same characters. Star Wars is one story.
Speedball
07-08-2006, 09:25 PM
never mind, you just can't understand that the story isn't really over. just the films story is over.
Have you even read the Thrawn trilogy? or heard of Jacen and Jaina?
So you're saying that the death and sacrafice of Chewbacca and Anakin Solo never happen and are meaningless?
If that's the was way you think, then you have one narrow mind.
SpandexFan
07-08-2006, 09:29 PM
I'm so there. I don't care how ridiculous Mark Hammill looks as a 60 year old Jedi sage, I'll dish out money for the tickets and popcorn. :D
Backdrifter
07-08-2006, 09:30 PM
never mind, you just can't understand that the story isn't really over. just the films story is over.
Have you even read the Thrawn trilogy? or heard of Jacen and Jaina?
So you're saying that the death and sacrafice of Chewbacca and Anakin Solo never happen and are meaningless?
If that's the was way you think, then you have one narrow mind.
The star wars FILMS should be called "The Tragedy of Darth Vader." Vader story is over. There is nothing left to explore. If there are any other films made, they won't feature Luke and Co. I'm afriad it is YOU who is narrowminded, if you don't understand basic storytelling elements and principles. What are you like 13?
Speedball
07-08-2006, 09:35 PM
I'm 20, and i said the story of the damn films was over, but the story of the Galaxy that the heroes reside in was not over.
I said i wanted to see a film that takes place either before the prequels or long after the heroes of the Republic and Civil War are dead.
Speedball
07-08-2006, 09:41 PM
I mean come on, I probably know more about Star Wars than anyone here, and i'm branded as an idiot because the story actually continues after the films. Do you people even read my post, because you keep repeating the same damn thing over and over again, and don't answer what i ask or comment on what i've said.
Kurosawa
07-08-2006, 10:01 PM
Sometimes I think it would be better for everyone if Star Wars had never been made, lol....
Drama queen punks would just find someone else to be pathetically jealous of and something else to hate.
Losers.
Kurosawa
07-08-2006, 10:05 PM
"Gary Kurtz, the producer of Epsiodes IV and V, recalls that the outline for a sequel trilogy was "very vague", outlining Skywalker's journey to becoming the premiere Jedi knight in the Obi-Wan Kenobi mold, and his ultimate confrontation with the Emperor. According to Kurtz, early plans for this trilogy would have included the introduction of Luke's sister (who was not slated to be Leia), and the first appearance of the Emperor, elements that were incorporated into Return of the Jedi once Kurtz and Lucas parted ways after The Empire Strikes Back."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_sequel_trilogy
Kurtz is a bitter idiot who Lucas fired for incompetence because he ran ESB way over budget.
And if they had done 7-9 as originally planned, it would have drug on waaaayyy too long.
I wouldn't mind a CGI Shadows Of The Empire adaptation with the voices of the original cast, however. That would be awesome and would compliment the Clone Wars cartoons well.
Speedball
07-08-2006, 10:06 PM
Kurtz is a bitter idiot who Lucas fired for incompetence because he ran ESB way over budget.
And if they had done 7-9 as originally planned, it would have drug on waaaayyy too long.
I wouldn't mind a CGI Shadows Of The Empire adaptation with the voices of the original cast, however. That would be awesome and would compliment the Clone Wars cartoons well.
That would be interesting to see, but who would be Dash Rendar's voice and Xizor?
boywonder13
07-09-2006, 01:12 AM
After the initial success of Star Wars, a sequel was inevitable, but over time, conflicting reports have spread as to how many sequels were planned. In 1978, a Time magazine article reported that the newly formed Star Wars Corp. would be producing "Star Wars II, and then, count them, ten other planned sequels."
In 1979, director George Lucas said in an interview on the set of The Empire Strikes Back, "The first script was one of six original stories I had written in the form of two trilogies. After the success of Star Wars, I added another trilogy. So now there are nine stories. The original two trilogies were conceived of as six films of which the first film was number four." Lucas backed this up with a 1980 interview with the L.A. Reader, stating "Star Wars is really three trilogies, nine films... it won't be finished for probably another 20 years."
This sequel trilogy was to feature Luke Skywalker as a Jedi Master in his sixties, passing the torch to the next generation of Jedi, the rebuilding of the Republic and the reestablishment of the Jedi Order. According to a 1983 Time article, its main theme was "the necessity for moral choices and the wisdom needed to distinguish right from wrong". Based on statements at the time from Lucas, a major villain in the sequel trilogy would have been a figure previously frozen from Episode III.
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Its seems Lucas was so happy with the sucess of Star wars (a new hope) he went on a Star Wars Rampage to make freaking 12 or 9 films......
If only he would just relase thos ideas that he had, if he's not going to make the film seriously....
ALL THESE THINGS ARE TRUE BY THE WAY, EVEN THE FROZEN VILLAIN FROM EPISODE 3 THING.
Kevin Roegele
07-09-2006, 01:02 PM
never mind, you just can't understand that the story isn't really over. just the films story is over.
And the film's story is STAR WARS!
Star Wars ends with Return of the Jedi.
Kevin Roegele
07-09-2006, 01:05 PM
I mean come on, I probably know more about Star Wars than anyone here
1. How on earth would you know that?
2. Even if you are, that's not something to be proud of, lol
3. No offence, but as Stewie said, that's something a 13-year old would boast about.
jrpstarwars
12-05-2006, 05:00 PM
Star Wars 7,8,9 will happen because they must happen. Furthermore 10, 11, 12 will and should happen also. The story is not complete. It must begin and end with Anakin for it to be taken seriously. Star Wars will go full circle before it ends. Take a look:
Episodes I-III: Anakin(Skywallker)
Episodes IV-VII: Anakin to Luke
Episodes VII-IX: Luke to Anakin
Episodes X-XII: Anakin(Solo)
...and the crowing jewel of the Star Wars universe...
STAR WARS EPISODE XIII: ANAKIN THE SOLO SKYWALKER
Episode 13 will be the definitive end to Star Wars, without question. The circle will be complete. The universe finished. Episode 13 will be the missing link. It will connect Episode I and Episode XII in a truely unique way. All mysteries revealed. All truths known. The possibilites expanded. The bounds torn down.
The simple story, some may say a tall tale, of a guy from a long time ago in a galaxy far away. It's the story of a guy named Anakin, known in folklore as 'The Solo Skywalker.' It's the story of how he sacrificed everything for everything. It's the story of how the universe started...
...anyone want to see this???
Mr. Lucas, Mr. Lucas, you're being paged.
JackBauer
12-05-2006, 05:05 PM
Star Wars 7,8,9 will happen because they must happen. Furthermore 10, 11, 12 will and should happen also. The story is not complete. It must begin and end with Anakin for it to be taken seriously. Star Wars will go full circle before it ends. Take a look:
Episodes I-III: Anakin(Skywallker)
Episodes IV-VII: Anakin to Luke
Episodes VII-IX: Luke to Anakin
Episodes X-XII: Anakin(Solo)
...and the crowing jewel of the Star Wars universe...
STAR WARS EPISODE XIII: ANAKIN THE SOLO SKYWALKER
Episode 13 will be the definitive end to Star Wars, without question. The circle will be complete. The universe finished. Episode 13 will be the missing link. It will connect Episode I and Episode XII in a truely unique way. All mysteries revealed. All truths known. The possibilites expanded. The bounds torn down.
The simple story, some may say a tall tale, of a guy from a long time ago in a galaxy far away. It's the story of a guy named Anakin, known in folklore as 'The Solo Skywalker.' It's the story of how he sacrificed everything for everything. It's the story of how the universe started...
...anyone want to see this???
Mr. Lucas, Mr. Lucas, you're being paged.
I honestly can't tell if you're joking... :huh:
jrpstarwars
12-05-2006, 05:09 PM
oh i'm not joking
jrpstarwars
12-05-2006, 05:10 PM
I'm not joking sir. In fact, I'm dead serious.
huskerwebhead
12-05-2006, 05:12 PM
Obviously a joke. New user, only post. :) Funny by the way.
Selene
12-05-2006, 05:59 PM
Im a big star wars fan but I would rather not see anymore films unless he DOESN'T direct or write. THe last three were really bad with the exception of some of Revenge of the Sith. He completely lost sight of the storylines and plots. I'm sorta tired of the whole CGI thing.
Secret_Riddle
12-05-2006, 06:10 PM
I love episodes 4,5,2,3 and i really wish they would just end the series but i know they wont.
jrpstarwars
12-05-2006, 06:31 PM
That's why Lucas said he isn't doing another Star Wars. He heard to many complaints. All these whiney babies saying 'bad characters, too much cgi, bad story, bad acting.' He only heard the negative and figured he couldn't do another one properly and shut these brats up at the same time.
I do agree with the CGI though. I think 7-12 need to get back to the grass roots of the original. I'm not talking making them on a 'beer budget' but less special effects and CGI than 1-3, yet more than 4-6. Episodes 7-12(especially 7-9) should be a median of sorts between the first two trilogies.
I imagine he(Lucas) wouldn't know the direction to go with 10-12 until Episode VII is released and reviewed. Once that happens he can decide whether to increase or decrese the special effects in 10-12.
I think less special effects for 10-12 makes sense simply because I envision 'the masterpiece' that is to be STAR WARS EPISODE XIII: ANAKIN THE SOLO SKYWALKER as an extremely low budget production. I see CGI as a necessity for ATSS for the cast and production team will be extremely small. I see ATSS as a '2001: A Space Odyssey' type of production.
The biggest stumbling block for Lucas Ltd. at this point may not be $$$, critics, getting Ford, Hamill, and Fisher back, or even a lack of intrest in making it... The problem is...
Who is going to play the most important character of all the Star Wars?
Who is going to be Anakin the Solo Skywalker?
DACrowe
12-05-2006, 09:01 PM
Star War is....over. What story is left to tell? The Empire has fallen (forget the dumb fan fictioiin) and Luke has fullfilled his part of the prophecy, as has Anakin (who I refuse to acknowledge as the main for the SW saga).
Overall the prequels were disapointing why would we want more then anyway? PLUS, the casat is all over 50. SW fanboys put it to rest now.
DACrowe
12-05-2006, 09:07 PM
BTW
Look, the SW story is over. The story that these films told were written and put together by George Lucas. He has now finished the story. It has its ending. The story is done. Yes, there can be other stories set in the same universe with the same characters, but they'd be different stories. And this story does not really need a sequel. It is fine the way it is. Fanfiction is just non-sensical BS written by fans who could not let go.
SW is George Lucas' epic. He told it. It's done. Fans can write (and Lucas can get richer by them doing this) all they want. But they are not part of Lucas' vision and as so are worth not very much. The Empire fell. From there it is up to the viewer what follows but Lucas has told his story.
Not everything needs to go on forever, really now.
Lord Blackbolt
12-05-2006, 09:45 PM
I wouldn't mind a all CGI movie....I'd rather see a animated movie about Star wars than another Animal cgi movie!!!! ARGGH!!! Plus it would be sooo money in the bag. Especially if they got the original actors back...cause really...Hammill LOOK like alien now...and Harrison is almost dust
Upset Spideyfan
12-06-2006, 01:01 AM
Kevin, I agree with you that the story is done and they should leave it at that. However, I don't agree with this:
Star Wars is about the rise, fall and redemption of Anakin. Which is done.
That's certainly a theme in the series, but the Original Trilogy is undoubtedly about Luke, first and foremost. No matter what anyone says you can't say Star Wars is about Anakin because its Luke who forces the positive change in Episodes 4,5,6.
Anyway, there's a multitude of EU stuff, some of which is quite good, some of which isn't. Point is there's enough
Kevin Roegele
12-06-2006, 04:41 AM
BTW
Look, the SW story is over. The story that these films told were written and put together by George Lucas. He has now finished the story. It has its ending. The story is done. Yes, there can be other stories set in the same universe with the same characters, but they'd be different stories. And this story does not really need a sequel. It is fine the way it is. Fanfiction is just non-sensical BS written by fans who could not let go.
SW is George Lucas' epic. He told it. It's done. Fans can write (and Lucas can get richer by them doing this) all they want. But they are not part of Lucas' vision and as so are worth not very much. The Empire fell. From there it is up to the viewer what follows but Lucas has told his story.
Not everything needs to go on forever, really now.
Dude, it doesn't matter how many times you say it, some people just refuse to hear it....like some Spidey fans who think 'McGuire' wants to play the role forever.
Kevin Roegele
12-06-2006, 04:43 AM
Kevin, I agree with you that the story is done and they should leave it at that. However, I don't agree with this:
That's certainly a theme in the series, but the Original Trilogy is undoubtedly about Luke, first and foremost. No matter what anyone says you can't say Star Wars is about Anakin because its Luke who forces the positive change in Episodes 4,5,6.
Anyway, there's a multitude of EU stuff, some of which is quite good, some of which isn't. Point is there's enough
True, but at the climax it's Vader who defeats the Emperor and brings balance to the Force. So while Luke and Anakin each have their own hero's journey trilogy, it's Anakin who is the chosen one.
Upset Spideyfan
12-06-2006, 09:13 AM
Yes, that certainly can't be denied. What Vader does cannot be ignored and without a doubt he is one of the centerpiece characters of Star Wars.
If let to his own devices Vader would never have brought about any change, positive or negative. By the time of the Original Trilogy, he's pretty stagnant. (I doubt he would have even tried to overthrow the Emperor).
Luke all throughout the Original Trilogy finds himself facing the same trials and challenges that his father did, and at the culmination of these events (ROTJ), finds himself at a similar crossroads. Rather than making his father's mistake and join the Emperor, Luke spares Vader. I firmly believe its this moment that gives Vader the final push he needs to redeem himself. Vader was beginning to have doubts and second thoughts, but he still was far from making his own decision. It was Luke's mercy and love that finally allowed his goodness to surface.
Anakin's story is not the story of Star Wars but instead serves as a background to draw parallels his son's journey. I would argue that Star Wars is really a coming of age tale first and foremost.
boywonder13
12-06-2006, 10:12 AM
yes the two star wars trilogies are about the story of Anakin. Another trilogy could fit on well. It would be the restoration of the Republic and the Jedi and extinction of the empire.
It could mix the best elements of the prequels (saber fights, special effects) and the original (story telling, plot)
Kevin Roegele
12-06-2006, 10:13 AM
Yes, that certainly can't be denied. What Vader does cannot be ignored and without a doubt he is one of the centerpiece characters of Star Wars.
If let to his own devices Vader would never have brought about any change, positive or negative. By the time of the Original Trilogy, he's pretty stagnant. (I doubt he would have even tried to overthrow the Emperor).
Luke all throughout the Original Trilogy finds himself facing the same trials and challenges that his father did, and at the culmination of these events (ROTJ), finds himself at a similar crossroads. Rather than making his father's mistake and join the Emperor, Luke spares Vader. I firmly believe its this moment that gives Vader the final push he needs to redeem himself. Vader was beginning to have doubts and second thoughts, but he still was far from making his own decision. It was Luke's mercy and love that finally allowed his goodness to surface.
Anakin's story is not the story of Star Wars but instead serves as a background to draw parallels his son's journey. I would argue that Star Wars is really a coming of age tale first and foremost.
Agreed - but Star Wars is two coming of age stories, Anakin and Luke. Anakin's goes wrong, and his son eventually helps him redeem himself.
I advise you check out Joseph Campbell's The Hero With A Thousand Faces, it's all in there.
But it is Anakin's story. He's a major player in every episode - he's the hero in the first three movies and the villain of the next three. He's the chosen one the Jedi prophecy speaks of, he brings balance to the Force. The story ends when Anakin dies.
jrpstarwars
12-06-2006, 10:49 AM
Come on!!!! How can a sci-fi epic like Star Wars end with the death of the main character??? Come on now.
Furthermore, you can all discount any Star Wars stories not written by Lucas for the big screen. It's his Star Wars story on the big screen because it's the best one man!!!
With that said I can nearly ensure you. More Star Wars films are coming. At least 3 more, possibly 12. I say do a 13th episode too just to finish it once and for all but that's just me.
Episodes 7-9 in my opinion should be and likely will have more character and story focus than 1-3. The special effects should not and will not outshine Ford, Fisher, and Hamill's performances.
Why will they(Hollywood, Lucas, etc.)pass on making a few billion dollar$???
Even if they have to wait until Lucas dies, they will make another trilogy. There's too much money to be made for them not too.
Personally if Lucas want's it done his way and wants to screw hollywood from robbing him in his grave he should do it before he dies and finish it so they can't screw him when he's dead and so he can rest in peace.
The story isn't done, It has to be finished, It's going to get done, Lucas has to do it or he'll burn in Star Wars hell for eternity...
jrpstarwars
12-06-2006, 10:49 AM
Come on!!!! How can a sci-fi epic like Star Wars end with the death of the main character??? Come on now.
Furthermore, you can all discount any Star Wars stories not written by Lucas for the big screen. It's his Star Wars story on the big screen because it's the best one man!!!
With that said I can nearly ensure you. More Star Wars films are coming. At least 3 more, possibly 12. I say do a 13th episode too just to finish it once and for all but that's just me.
Episodes 7-9 in my opinion should be and likely will have more character and story focus than 1-3. The special effects should not and will not outshine Ford, Fisher, and Hamill's performances.
Why will they(Hollywood, Lucas, etc.)pass on making a few billion dollar$???
Even if they have to wait until Lucas dies, they will make another trilogy. There's too much money to be made for them not too.
Personally if Lucas want's it done his way and wants to screw hollywood from robbing him in his grave he should do it before he dies and finish it so they can't screw him when he's dead and so he can rest in peace.
The story isn't done, It has to be finished, It's going to get done, Lucas has to do it or he'll burn in Star Wars hell for eternity...
Kevin Roegele
12-06-2006, 11:21 AM
Come on!!!! How can a sci-fi epic like Star Wars end with the death of the main character??? Come on now.
Furthermore, you can all discount any Star Wars stories not written by Lucas for the big screen. It's his Star Wars story on the big screen because it's the best one man!!!
With that said I can nearly ensure you. More Star Wars films are coming. At least 3 more, possibly 12. I say do a 13th episode too just to finish it once and for all but that's just me.
Episodes 7-9 in my opinion should be and likely will have more character and story focus than 1-3. The special effects should not and will not outshine Ford, Fisher, and Hamill's performances.
Why will they(Hollywood, Lucas, etc.)pass on making a few billion dollar$???
Even if they have to wait until Lucas dies, they will make another trilogy. There's too much money to be made for them not too.
Personally if Lucas want's it done his way and wants to screw hollywood from robbing him in his grave he should do it before he dies and finish it so they can't screw him when he's dead and so he can rest in peace.
The story isn't done, It has to be finished, It's going to get done, Lucas has to do it or he'll burn in Star Wars hell for eternity...
You almost had me fooled there, but a raging, non-sensical, logic-avoiding fan would say something about the novels 'continuing the story' and that Star Wars can go on forever, and such and such.
jrpstarwars
12-06-2006, 11:30 AM
Agreed, the novels don't carry on the big screen story but kind of leech off it. It can't go on forever, true, but the on-screen version is not done-sorry.
huskerwebhead
12-06-2006, 12:11 PM
OK, it's not even funny anymore.
jrpstarwars
12-06-2006, 12:15 PM
That's good, I didn't want it to be funny. LOL
...now thats funny
Kevin Roegele
12-06-2006, 12:43 PM
Agreed, the novels don't carry on the big screen story but kind of leech off it. It can't go on forever, true, but the on-screen version is not done-sorry.
If Lucas wanted to make more, he'd be making more. He isn't. He's done. And he owns Star Wars, not Fox. He's keeping the cash cow alive with TV shows, games and books.
jrpstarwars
12-06-2006, 12:58 PM
It'll happen, maybe not for 20 years, but it will happen.
Upset Spideyfan
12-06-2006, 01:23 PM
I advise you check out Joseph Campbell's The Hero With A Thousand Faces, it's all in there.
I looked it up on Wikipedia and it sounds interesting so I might have to give that a read.
I still don't think you can call Star Wars the story of Anakin. You said it yourself, he becomes the villain in the Original Trilogy. If the story were told from his perspective then yeah sure, I could agree, but its clearly from Luke and its clearly about his overcoming the obstacles and trials that await him, not about what becoming fallen has done to Anakin.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
On the topic of the books, EU in general and so forth. I will say most of it is crap, especially the stuff that happens after RoTJ. Most of it is just sci-fi stuff, not really "Star Wars".
The only EU piece of material I think really holds up to what Star Wars is about, or rather the tone, is the first Knights of the Old Republic game, and that's clearly because much of it was modeled on the Original Trilogy.
jrpstarwars
12-06-2006, 01:37 PM
I looked it up on Wikipedia and it sounds interesting so I might have to give that a read.
I still don't think you can call Star Wars the story of Anakin. You said it yourself, he becomes the villain in the Original Trilogy. If the story were told from his perspective then yeah sure, I could agree, but its clearly from Luke and its clearly about his overcoming the obstacles and trials that await him, not about what becoming fallen has done to Anakin.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
On the topic of the books, EU in general and so forth. I will say most of it is crap, especially the stuff that happens after RoTJ. Most of it is just sci-fi stuff, not really "Star Wars".
The only EU piece of material I think really holds up to what Star Wars is about, or rather the tone, is the first Knights of the Old Republic game, and that's clearly because much of it was modeled on the Original Trilogy.
That's true. If the story was from Anakin's POV he wouldn't have been villified. VERY GOOD POINT! So who is the story about??? Luke??? Han??? Leia??? The droids??? Anakin Solo??? Regardless, it's NOT ABOUT ANAKIN/DARTH!!!
Totally new light on this topic, kudos.
neobido9999
12-06-2006, 02:22 PM
I could watch another SW trilogy, just hold the CGI
neobido9999
12-06-2006, 02:23 PM
I could watch another SW trilogy, just hold the CGI
Ronny Shade
12-06-2006, 02:25 PM
Animate it. Use the Thrawn Trilogy.
DACrowe
12-06-2006, 04:55 PM
I personally think the OT is always the main focus and the prequels are supplemental (as Lucas said when making them). The story is ALuke having to redeem himself and his father's mistakes and the ancient and even primordial tale of father vs. son and the children surpassing their parents and their parents' mistake (now this si starting to sound like Singer's Superman). Seriously, the focus is Luke overcoming the conflict with his father and laying to rest the woes and mistakes his forefathers had on the owrld....or in this case galaxy.
The prequels are just telling how this accident came into being. If you watch them in chronological order Anaking is centerfold. But the main theme of the saga falls on Luke and Leia more though.
Kevin Roegele
12-06-2006, 04:57 PM
It'll happen, maybe not for 20 years, but it will happen.
When Lucas is in his 80's? :huh:
Are you Supershadow?
Kevin Roegele
12-06-2006, 05:02 PM
I looked it up on Wikipedia and it sounds interesting so I might have to give that a read.
I still don't think you can call Star Wars the story of Anakin. You said it yourself, he becomes the villain in the Original Trilogy. If the story were told from his perspective then yeah sure, I could agree, but its clearly from Luke and its clearly about his overcoming the obstacles and trials that await him, not about what becoming fallen has done to Anakin.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
Sure, but let's discuss rather than argue, you have intresting opinions on the matter. I mean, the original trilogy definetly is from Luke's perspective, no question. The prequels do the same thing, but with Anakin. So they're 50/50 so far. But then Anakin turns into Vader, and is the villain of the original trilogy, so he is a major player in all six episodes, whereas Luke is only in three (well, four if you count baby Luke). And then it's Vader who is the one who brings balance to the Force. So it's Anakin's story more than Luke's, is my opinion.
Speedball
12-06-2006, 05:03 PM
Kevin is right, Anakin is the main character of the Star Wars film saga.
As much as I would like to see a new film series, It should not be done. Let it live on in the comics, books, video games, and possible TV series.
Kevin Roegele
12-06-2006, 05:09 PM
Kevin is right, Anakin is the main character of the Star Wars film saga.
As much as I would like to see a new film series, It should not be done. Let it live on in the comics, books, video games, and possible TV series.
I think Star Wars works best (outside the movies) in video games. I've read some novels and they were mediocre, and the comics look like Star Wars but don't feel like Star Wars. But video games is a perfect medium for it.
Speedball
12-06-2006, 05:12 PM
I think Star Wars works best (outside the movies) in video games. I've read some novels and they were mediocre, and the comics look like Star Wars but don't feel like Star Wars. But video games is a perfect medium for it.
It really is. KOTOR, Battlefront, and Rogue Squadron are the three that capture it best. I wish we would see some next gen stuff from these series.
Kevin Roegele
12-06-2006, 05:14 PM
It really is. KOTOR, Battlefront, and Rogue Squadron are the three that capture it best. I wish we would see some next gen stuff from these series.
Nintendo Wii lightsaber game. Surely, surely it must be so.
Speedball
12-06-2006, 05:19 PM
Nintendo Wii lightsaber game. Surely, surely it must be so.
that is SO happening. Lucasarts knows that it is in high demand, and it will sell like crazy. It should play like Zelda, but in the Star Wars Universe. But when would it take place?
Kevin Roegele
12-06-2006, 05:32 PM
that is SO happening. Lucasarts knows that it is in high demand, and it will sell like crazy. It should play like Zelda, but in the Star Wars Universe. But when would it take place?
Hmmmm....one for each movie trilogy I guess.
But the greatest thing would surely be two players - you know where I'm going with this - as Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon versus Darth Maul.
I'm almost drooling....
jrpstarwars
12-06-2006, 05:53 PM
When Lucas is in his 80's? :huh:
Are you Supershadow?
Uh, no. They'll make it when Lucas as dead. Dedicate to him and get even more publicity.
jrpstarwars
12-06-2006, 06:46 PM
FROM SpielbergFilms.com:
UNTITLED DREAM SCI-FI PROJECT
In recent years, Steven Spielberg has hinted at the fact that he has a secret "dream sci-fi project" in the works for possible future unveiling. Spielberg has not revealed anything about the film whatsoever beyond the following quote from Empire magazine in 2003:
"I actually do have a dream sci-fi project that I'm not ready to talk about yet," Spielberg told Empire. "But it's in the early, early, early planning stages and I'm very excited about it. It will be an original screenplay. I'm not going to write it. I wrote the story and somebody else will write the screenplay."
Could this be a Spielberg version of Star Wars? Perhaps the second half of the epic? I am sure that Spielberg would be the one person Lucas would entrust Star Wars to. Maybe Lucas will see that Star Wars is bigger than he can handle and it is time for a better film maker to take the reigns.
Even if it isn't Star Wars I'm sure this film will kick azz.
Speedball
12-06-2006, 06:48 PM
No. This is not Star Wars. This is another film called Interstellar. It's a Sci-fi film about wormholes.
jrpstarwars
12-06-2006, 06:52 PM
WRONG!!! This project is an original screenplay. Interstellar was already written. He(Spielberg)is basically just the director/producer.
Speedball
12-06-2006, 06:56 PM
WRONG!!! This project is an original screenplay. Interstellar was already written. He(Spielberg)is basically just the director/producer.
Well...It's still not Star Wars though.
jrpstarwars
12-06-2006, 06:58 PM
Well...It's still not Star Wars though.
Wanna bet?:cwink:
Speedball
12-06-2006, 07:02 PM
Wanna bet?:cwink:
No, cause there's nothing to bet on.
There are more ideas in hollywood than Star Wars, and Spielberg has been one of the most creative minds in Hollywood, I think he can come up with something other than to copy a part of his friends' ideas.
I could be E.T. 2?
If it's something original, than it will not be Star Wars, because that's not original, it was someone else's idea first.
primemover
12-06-2006, 07:13 PM
Though I'd love to see more Star Wars, I am OK with it being finished on film, at least for a while. I can see it continue on television though, there are so many cool stories to be had in the Star Wars universe as see through the video games, comics and books.
jrpstarwars
12-06-2006, 07:19 PM
No, cause there's nothing to bet on.
There are more ideas in hollywood than Star Wars, and Spielberg has been one of the most creative minds in Hollywood, I think he can come up with something other than to copy a part of his friends' ideas.
I could be E.T. 2?
If it's something original, than it will not be Star Wars, because that's not original, it was someone else's idea first.
E.T. 2??? God kill me now!!!! A Spielberg
Star Wars story would be original though. By original I mean not already an idea for a movie.
Lucas, nor any other credited screenwriter has comeforth with written work for Star Wars Episode 7, 8, or 9. Henceforth, Spielberg's Star Wars Episode 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 would be original works.:woot:
Kevin Roegele
12-06-2006, 08:59 PM
Wanna bet?:cwink:
I would bet you everything you own or will ever own. :D
Eklypze
12-06-2006, 09:08 PM
i think they need to make an entire new star wars saga based on the books maybe New Jedi Order but that wouldnt be all that good for lack of lightsaber duels but the Legacy series would be great its about Jacen Solo becoming the next sith and that would be great on film
jrpstarwars
12-06-2006, 09:19 PM
I would bet you everything you own or will ever own. :D
ppfffttt, okay.
Upset Spideyfan
12-07-2006, 01:41 PM
But then Anakin turns into Vader, and is the villain of the original trilogy, so he is a major player in all six episodes, whereas Luke is only in three (well, four if you count baby Luke). And then it's Vader who is the one who brings balance to the Force. So it's Anakin's story more than Luke's, is my opinion.
Anakin's fall and redemption is a theme in Star Wars, it runs through all six movies, but it is not the central theme.
Whatever Vader's status was during the Prequels, he becomes a foil for Luke, not the other way around.
Let me try and put this into a fantasy story context, maybe that'll help me to say what I want to say:
We've got the young knight on a quest to avenge his father and destroy the black knight. The young knight learns the black knight is really his father who used to be a Good Knight but fell and became corrupted and therefore the Young Knight's quest becomes one of redemption. The Young Knight is successful in his quest and the Black Knight is redeemed at the end.
That's essentially Star Wars. Just because we learn how the Black Knight became the Black Knight doesn't negate from the fact that the quest belongs to the Young Knight.
And then it's Vader who is the one who brings balance to the Force. So it's Anakin's story more than Luke's, is my opinion.
But this is brought about through Luke. Left to his own devices, Vader would never have redeemed himself.
I'll try and use X-Men 1 as an example. Cyclops is the one that ultimately shoots Magneto and takes him down, ending the threat. It was obvious that on his own, Wolverine was not going to be able to destroy Magneto's machine. But I doubt any of us would argue that Cyclops is the main character, its undoubtedly Wolverine, even though he himself is not the one that stops Magneto.
Kritish
12-07-2006, 02:04 PM
Just what the American public needs, more crappy star wars films that will be created because Lucas is greedy. :o
Kevin Roegele
12-07-2006, 02:26 PM
Anakin's fall and redemption is a theme in Star Wars, it runs through all six movies, but it is not the central theme.
Whatever Vader's status was during the Prequels, he becomes a foil for Luke, not the other way around.
Let me try and put this into a fantasy story context, maybe that'll help me to say what I want to say:
We've got the young knight on a quest to avenge his father and destroy the black knight. The young knight learns the black knight is really his father who used to be a Good Knight but fell and became corrupted and therefore the Young Knight's quest becomes one of redemption. The Young Knight is successful in his quest and the Black Knight is redeemed at the end.
That's essentially Star Wars. Just because we learn how the Black Knight became the Black Knight doesn't negate from the fact that the quest belongs to the Young Knight.
But this is brought about through Luke. Left to his own devices, Vader would never have redeemed himself.
I'll try and use X-Men 1 as an example. Cyclops is the one that ultimately shoots Magneto and takes him down, ending the threat. It was obvious that on his own, Wolverine was not going to be able to destroy Magneto's machine. But I doubt any of us would argue that Cyclops is the main character, its undoubtedly Wolverine, even though he himself is not the one that stops Magneto.
But how can you say Star Wars is Luke's story when he's only introduced half way through?
The stoy follows Anakin from being a kid at the beginning, and the story ends when he dies.
Sure, Anakin only defeats the Emperor because of Luke's help. But Anakin still defeats the Emperor. Luke himself can't. Anakin is the Chosen One, the Hero, not Luke.
I agree that in the original trilogy, it's all about Luke. But putting the six film saga together as a whole, the story is about Anakin.
Fanticon
12-07-2006, 03:01 PM
movie making technology will have to advance another 15 years before they even attempt it...that way...no actors will be used to replace our original favorite characters...it'll all be digital fx. No Hamil, no Harrison...no substitutes.
jrpstarwars
12-07-2006, 03:33 PM
Yeah, I think they will start doing all movies with computers. Actors will become expendable.
Fanticon
12-07-2006, 03:55 PM
just the way Lucas wants it.
jrpstarwars
12-07-2006, 04:15 PM
Yeah, and maybe it'd be better if we were all monkeys picking fleas off each others asses!!!
Upset Spideyfan
12-07-2006, 04:16 PM
But how can you say Star Wars is Luke's story when he's only introduced half way through?
I see now. I suspect we're having a disagreement of opinion in how we look at the Prequels. You see I've never viewed Star Wars trilogy as 4,5,6 (despite the Episode titles), I've always seen them as 1,2,3. The way I view the Prequels is as a sort of precursor to the main event (-3,-2,-1 if you will).
The Prequels are just the set-up, a way of showing us how things became the way they were in the Original Trilogy. I suppose the best of way of saying it is I view the titles quite literally (Prequel Trilogy, Original Trilogy).
You're viewing them, if I'm not mistaken as 1,2,3,4,5,6.
Edit: Maybe this post comes off way more like rambling than I would have liked...
jrpstarwars
12-07-2006, 04:18 PM
I see now. I suspect we're having a disagreement of opinion in how we look at the Prequels. You see I've never viewed Star Wars trilogy as 4,5,6 (despite the Episode titles), I've always seen them as 1,2,3. The way I view the Prequels is as a sort of precursor to the main event (-3,-2,-1 if you will).
Its just the set-up, a way of showing us how things became the way they were in the Original Trilogy. I suppose the best of way of saying it is I view the titles quite literally (Prequel Trilogy, Original Trilogy).
You're viewing them, if I'm not mistaken as 1,2,3,4,5,6.
:huh:
Upset Spideyfan
12-07-2006, 04:22 PM
:huh:
:up:
ron bond 007
01-01-2007, 05:56 AM
I have always wanted there to be a third trilogy because I want to see Luke Skywalker as an Obi-Wan/Yoda Type Jedi Master passing on the torch to a new generation of Jedi Knights and to see the Republic rebuilt.
There has been novels about that but I want to see that in films.
Mark Hamill has said that Lucas asked him to play an Obi-Wan type character in Episodes VII-IX and that it would be made around 2011.
There has been another rumor of there being Episodes 7-9 on TheForce.Net this week. I hope it's true.
I think the SW saga should end with Luke passing on the torch to a new order of Jedi and not just a celebration around the galaxy. And I think Luke's prophecy was training a new order of Jedi Knights to defend the galaxy and being them back to their former glory.
I still do hope there will be a sequel trilogy set either 50 or 100 after Return of the Jedi with Hamill as an 70 or 120-year old Luke and Luke's son Ben Skywalker and his grandson as the heroes of the sequels.
I think the Legacy of the Force book series or post-Legacy of the Force(the era set between LOTF and the Legacy comic book series would make a perfect sequel trilogy and it could deal with Jacen Solo as the next Sith Lord since he is becoming the next Darth in the upcoming SW novel Legacy of the Force:Sacrifice.
:yay: :cwink: :trans:
Speedball
01-01-2007, 11:10 AM
I have always wanted there to be a third trilogy because I want to see Luke Skywalker as an Obi-Wan/Yoda Type Jedi Master passing on the torch to a new generation of Jedi Knights and to see the Republic rebuilt.
There has been novels about that but I want to see that in films.
Mark Hamill has said that Lucas asked him to play an Obi-Wan type character in Episodes VII-IX and that it would be made around 2011.
There has been another rumor of there being Episodes 7-9 on TheForce.Net this week. I hope it's true.
I think the SW saga should end with Luke passing on the torch to a new order of Jedi and not just a celebration around the galaxy. And I think Luke's prophecy was training a new order of Jedi Knights to defend the galaxy and being them back to their former glory.
I still do hope there will be a sequel trilogy set either 50 or 100 after Return of the Jedi with Hamill as an 70 or 120-year old Luke and Luke's son Ben Skywalker and his grandson as the heroes of the sequels.
I think the Legacy of the Force book series or post-Legacy of the Force(the era set between LOTF and the Legacy comic book series would make a perfect sequel trilogy and it could deal with Jacen Solo as the next Sith Lord since he is becoming the next Darth in the upcoming SW novel Legacy of the Force:Sacrifice.
:yay: :cwink: :trans:
Could you link to that rumor please?
And everything you mentioned is what the films should be.
Secret_Riddle
01-01-2007, 11:56 AM
I hope that 7,8,9 are never made. Star wars is in short the story of Anakin Skywalkers rise, fall, and redemption. Its very Shakespearean and it should be left as it is. Lucas told the tale he wanted to, now end it. We have 6 movies, 4 of which are very good, to watch and enjoy. Episode 1 and 2 are still better then most movies imo as well.
Eklypze
01-01-2007, 11:57 AM
i agree man the Legacy series would make a great trilogy i mean so far te three books weve had are better than most of the books from the New Jedi Order allthough i do think that a series of CGI movies based on the NJO would be really kool to see
NewYorkSpider
01-01-2007, 12:20 PM
I don't think that it is neccessary to make them. The story was of Anakin and his rise to the dark side and his son becoming a jedi. If they were to make them though, I would watch them.
Marvolo
01-01-2007, 01:06 PM
I am a Star Wars fanatic so I would love for there to be another trilogy.
ron bond 007
01-03-2007, 08:42 PM
Here is the link to the Episodes VII-IX rumor:
http://www.theforce.net/swtv/story/Star_Wars_Rumors_102623.asp
Does anybody else besides me think there should be another trilogy featruring Mark Hamill as an older,wiser Luke Skywalker leading and training a new generation of Jedi?
Somebody overheard Lucas talk about the upcoming TV series,HBO and Star Wars Episodes VII-IX with a new probable director at a party in LA.
:word: :cwink: :yay:
Speedball
01-03-2007, 08:49 PM
WTF???
On HBO:cmad: :cmad: :cmad:
Too bad the e-mail was probably a fraud.
The Series was to take place between III and IV, not VI-VII.
And why wouldn't Fox have it on their station? It would be a very expensive show to make, and would get a ton of viewers there.
Asteroid-Man
01-03-2007, 08:57 PM
I am VERY sory to say that I liked supershadows script of 7-9. Other then those scripts I hate supershadow
Sam Fisher
01-03-2007, 09:00 PM
HBO? I hate Fox.
Speedball
01-03-2007, 09:06 PM
HBO? I hate Fox.
You hate the company or the channel?
Don't worry, that thing is a about as fake as Paris Hilton's personality.
Sam Fisher
01-03-2007, 09:09 PM
You hate the company or the channel?
Don't worry, that thing is a about as fake as Paris Hilton's personality.I hope so, I don't think I have HBO.
Speedball
01-03-2007, 09:11 PM
I hope so, I don't think I have HBO.
I don't have it, and don't feel like paying for it. Hopefully that place I'm moving to will have it for free.
ron bond 007
03-18-2008, 11:41 PM
I have always wanted to see a Star Wars Episodes VII-IX because I want to see Mark Hamill back as an older,wiser Luke Skywalker training a new generation of Jedi Knights. I always heard that 7-9 were to deal with the rebuilding of the republic and obviously the Jedi Order. Mark Hamill once said in interviews that Lucas asked him to reprise the role of Luke as an Obi-Wan type character who passes on the excalibur to the next young hope at the end of Episode 9. I'm dissapointed and sad that Lucas isn't doing Episodes 7-9 because I always wanted to see the original cast Hamill,Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher as Luke,Han and Leia in the aftermath of the defeat of the Emperor and Darth Vader. I know there is novels set after Jedi but I prefer to see movies after Jedi.
All my life I heard that there were going to be nine movies(not six films) with the last three to deal with the rebuilding of the republic and it's main theme according to a 1983 Time magazine article was "the necessity for moral choices and the wisdom needed to distinguish right from wrong" and Luke would reappear in the sequels at the age of Obi-Wan in ANH(somewhere in his sixties) and so would his friends(Han and Leia).
I think Lucas should at least allow the novels including the Thrawn Trilogy,Shadows of the Empire,NJO & LOTF or even the upcoming potential Post-LOTF series including the final adventure of Luke,Han and Leia or even the Marvel Comic SW series to be made into CGI animated films.
BTW:Matthew Stover a SW novelist wants to write the final adventure of Luke,Han and Leia. Perhaps that could be the basis for Episodes VII-IX. Hopefully it will happen in the next book contract hopefully Del Rey will renew the licensce
:word::brucebat::liz::cwink:
bullets
03-19-2008, 12:29 AM
I think they should do 7-9 animated cgi . That could work out well and they could continue on with expanded universe. I would like to see some of the actors return to do voicework though.
NewYorkSpider
03-19-2008, 12:31 AM
I think they should do 7-9 animated cgi . That could work out well and they could continue on with expanded universe. I would like to see some of the actors return to do voicework though.
I think that would work out great.
FaT_tONle
03-19-2008, 12:45 AM
Just recast... ain't the worst thing in the world... have you guys seen how much Fisher has ballooned since the slave girl suit??? Ofcourse you have... and it isn't very pretty... plus she sort of sounds like a man now I have to admit... even if she was one hundred percent comitted their is no way she could get even to Helen Mirren or Meryl Streep shape... well maybe... then again I can't really picture her as a good looking older woman... and Ford... I mean wtf can we give this guy a break and let him retire so he can go back home and **** his beautiful wife while he still has it? Obviously he could still pull off the voice along with Billy D and Hamill... but animated is just not the direction to take this thing... Star Wars should never stoop that low... I was suprised that Clone Wars was going to be a theatrical release... but if you are going to do Episodes 7-9... its live action or nothing.
PimpDaddyDOC-OCK
03-19-2008, 01:23 AM
Maybe, Lucas could bring the Emperor back as a clone or maybe it was a clone that Vader threw down the shaft in Return Of The Jedi & the real Emperor has been in hiding all this time or maybe the Emperor had a whole army of Vader clones made the same way Jango Fett had all of those clones of him made in AOTC. It would be interesting to see how the story would pan out.
Gilpesh
03-19-2008, 01:24 AM
I know this is late and probably nitpicking but Kevin is wrong and Speedball is right.
Star Wars' story isn't over, the plot is.
WTF???
On HBO:cmad: :cmad: :cmad:
Too bad the e-mail was probably a fraud.
The Series was to take place between III and IV, not VI-VII.
And why wouldn't Fox have it on their station? It would be a very expensive show to make, and would get a ton of viewers there.
Well, Warner Bros. is distributing the The Clone Wars movie, not Fox. And airing the live action series on HBO guarantees that it could more grittier. I like.
Doctor Baywatch
03-19-2008, 08:22 AM
well, since Star Wars is not Anakin's story they could make a sequel trilogy. But not written by George Lucas, please hire some competent writers.
Super_Ludacris
03-19-2008, 08:26 AM
There making more Star Wars movies?
:(
DarknessOfDeath
03-19-2008, 09:00 AM
Garner for Mirax Booster :up:
or Jaina Solo... *shrugs*
Speedball, help me out here.
I dunno about Corran Horn... oh gods...
I don't think there will be anymore star wars films... if so, I like to see fresh characters, and yeah make sure they get the female character(s) spot on. We need to see tough chicks who can kick ass and are strong... like Princess Leia...
I like to see Mara Jade ...oh geez...
okay, oh yeah and Mirax Booster.
Speedball. I didn't sleep at all last night...
Finlandman
03-19-2008, 09:20 AM
NO! There shouldn't exist more Tar wars flicks, because:
1, They would have to get the new actors. ( Ford and Hamil are just too old for their roles.)
2, Story ended in episode 6. Ended means that story has come to an end.
3, There can not be good Star wars movie without Darth Vader. ( Just look at episodes 1 and 2.)
Nirvana
03-19-2008, 01:04 PM
No thanks. I'm happy with the way Star Wars went. Let it rest for now. If they want to do a remake in like 30 years than sure, why not. But for now, Episodes 7-9 are just wishful fanboy thinking.
If anything, if they wanted Star Wars to be ever lasting...They would have gone with a Bond-style Star Wars.
FaT_tONle
03-19-2008, 02:46 PM
A Bond Star Wars??? Recasting the three leads every ten years? I hope that's not what you meant... btw I'm all for 7-9... but only after Ford and Hamill either pass on or are no longer physically capable of playing their roles... and hopefully that will be many years from now whever that time comes. Or if the CGI is good enough just do motion cap and glue the faces of the orginal cast back on to whoever is starring in the film.
Warhammer
03-19-2008, 02:59 PM
Many people have said it throughout the net, and Kevin Roegele has summed it up the best in this thread. No Episodes VII-IX. Star Wars is the story of chosen one who brings balance to the force. Things can continue in the comics, novels, etc., but as far as the big screen, it does not need to happen.
DieSmiling
03-19-2008, 03:05 PM
I doubt it will happen but if it does, I'll be first in line.
Kevin Roegele
03-19-2008, 03:44 PM
"There's no story past "Episode VI", there's just no story. It's a certain story about Anakin Skywalker and once Anakin Skywalker dies, that's kind of the end of the story" - George Lucas, March 17, 2008 http://www.comingsoon.net/news/showestnews.php?id=42983
Warhammer
03-19-2008, 03:48 PM
He just layethed the Smackdown. :up:
Nirvana
03-19-2008, 03:58 PM
A Bond Star Wars??? Recasting the three leads every ten years? I hope that's not what you meant... btw I'm all for 7-9... but only after Ford and Hamill either pass on or are no longer physically capable of playing their roles... and hopefully that will be many years from now whever that time comes. Or if the CGI is good enough just do motion cap and glue the faces of the orginal cast back on to whoever is starring in the film.
Oh god no. I meant more like...well, okay so none of the bond flicks relate to each other and each film is a stand alone. With Star Wars, if they went "Bond Style" they could have had that one particular movie focus on a single Jedi, then the second film focus on another Jedi and so on and so forth. I'm not saying they should do this, nor that I want it. I'm just saying that if they wanted to make 20+ Star Wars films (thus, making Star Wars everlasting) they should have gone with this style.
Kevin Roegele
03-19-2008, 04:07 PM
Oh god no. I meant more like...well, okay so none of the bond flicks relate to each other and each film is a stand alone. With Star Wars, if they went "Bond Style" they could have had that one particular movie focus on a single Jedi, then the second film focus on another Jedi and so on and so forth. I'm not saying they should do this, nor that I want it. I'm just saying that if they wanted to make 20+ Star Wars films (thus, making Star Wars everlasting) they should have gone with this style.
But then it wouldn't be Star Wars, as the point of Star Wars is that it's an episodic, continuing saga, a story. And even 'Bond style' as you mention, is changing to be more like Star Wars style; Quantum of Solace will continue the storyline straight from Casino Royale.
Nirvana
03-19-2008, 04:10 PM
But then it wouldn't be Star Wars, as the point of Star Wars is that it's an episodic, continuing saga, a story. And even 'Bond style' as you mention, is changing to be more like Star Wars style; Quantum of Solace will continue the storyline straight from Casino Royale.
LoL, well then aren't we glad they didn't go that style? All I'm saying is if they wanted to make it everlasting, the way I suggested seems like it could have worked.
Kevin Roegele
03-19-2008, 04:14 PM
LoL, well then aren't we glad they didn't go that style? All I'm saying is if they wanted to make it everlasting, the way I suggested seems like it could have worked.
I doubt it. The only franchises that last for decades are ones that can change to suit public tastes of the time, like Bond movies. Even the Godzilla series has changed substantially throughout it's long history.
FaT_tONle
03-19-2008, 04:19 PM
Oh god no. I meant more like...well, okay so none of the bond flicks relate to each other and each film is a stand alone. With Star Wars, if they went "Bond Style" they could have had that one particular movie focus on a single Jedi, then the second film focus on another Jedi and so on and so forth. I'm not saying they should do this, nor that I want it. I'm just saying that if they wanted to make 20+ Star Wars films (thus, making Star Wars everlasting) they should have gone with this style.
They might as well do that then... focus on other characters in the universe... eventually turn some of these novels and comics and games into movie adaptations... its just weird though because I can't really see any stories that people would actual care about after Episode 6... I mean if you are going to do a movie about a dude's adventures in space... why stick him in the Star Wars universe? I mean light sabers are cool and all but seriously... it wouldn't have any relevance at all... even if it was a cool fictional character that may have a following in novels or games... the only thing that would work are movies pertaining to events in from what Lucas established... but Lucas would never allow someone else to come in and piggy back his work... From what Lucas established with Star Wars movies... if there is no tie in to any Skywalkers its garbage and means nothing... so you can't switch gears and expect to have solid movie adaptations about characters that don't fit in to the Star Wars mythos that Lucas established.
NO MORE STAR WARS MOVIES, PLEASE!!!
That is all
dolfan55aj
03-19-2008, 07:21 PM
NO MORE STAR WARS MOVIES, PLEASE!!!
That is all
Amen to that...
It would be a disgrace to the Star Wars universe.
Spider-Fan83
03-19-2008, 07:46 PM
how about, some, star wars: origins
like, Han Solo: when Han meet Chewie
or a smallville style, TV serie, about young luke growing up on tatooine
LOL
no, but, sirously
the only star wars related films I possibly would still like to see is, maybe, KOTOR
Downhere
03-19-2008, 09:50 PM
I wouldn't mind a trilogy based on KOTOR, that could be awesome.
Speedball
03-19-2008, 09:54 PM
I wouldn't mind a trilogy based on KOTOR, that could be awesome.
Hell yes!
Just come up with a new cast of characters.
I would love to see Mission Vao in the series, though.
phoenixflight
03-19-2008, 10:13 PM
Agreed, nothing can ever compare to the original Trilogy. The prequels were not that horrible, however having the Star Wars name attached to it makes it pale in comparison.
I would also (secretly) like to see a continuation of the Star Wars universe, however it does need some revamping. Borrowing from KOTOR would be really cool, but I would also love to see the universe as it continues (Luke becoming increasingly dark and meeting Mara. Leia and Han having kids, etc.).
However, if 7,8,9 are ever made then it loses the overall story premise...a story about the life (and times) of Anakin Skywalker.
Drizzle
03-19-2008, 10:41 PM
I wouldn't mind a trilogy based on KOTOR, that could be awesome.
It would suck, because it wouldn't involve Vader, Luke, Han, Leia, or Chewie. Or Artoo. Or Threepio. Get my point?
titan101
03-19-2008, 10:44 PM
we have six movies , novels , comic books , video games , a cartoon show , and now lucas is making a 3D animated flick AND a live action tv series ..... and there's probably even more **** that i don't even know about . wtf more do you need ?
Nightmare
03-19-2008, 10:46 PM
Make a movie Based on KOTOR, then i can die happily.
DarknessOfDeath
03-20-2008, 02:44 PM
Make a movie Based on KOTOR, then i can die happily.
That would be interesting to see and how well that gets planned out if done right.
I don't care who appears and who doesn't appear in future SW...there was plenty of the Original characters to follow up on their adventures in the OT.
I like to see new adventures with some EU characters like Mirax Booster and Corran Horn.
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