Thor Vs Captain Marvel [Archive] - The Superhero Hype! Boards

11-04-2003, 11:20 PM

The only time I ever remember Captain Marvel being crazy was in Kingdom Come. Anyway, In Kingdom Come Superman was at the peak of his strenth/toughness because of all the solar energy he had taken in over the years, kryptonite didnt even affect him anymore. He might not of been at his pre-crisis strenth/toughness, but it was up there. And, well, Captain Marvel still beat the living crap out of him. Yes, Superman in the end won, and could of crushed his head, but Captain Marvel still gave him one of the fights of his life. And Superman recently beat Thor, so Im going to give this one to Captain Marvel, well, because he's The Worlds Mightiest Mortal, and, uh, he's a Golden Age Hero!!! :D

11-04-2003, 11:22 PM

Whats with all of this King Thor stuff anyway? I havent been keeping up with whats going on with the character lately (never really liked him all that much) but im still curious. I hope it's not another cheesy way to boost his power, like Warrior Madness, or that Bear Shirt of whatever the hell it was he wore...

All Seeing Eye

11-04-2003, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by Mr. X
The only time I ever remember Captain Marvel being crazy was in Kingdom Come. Anyway, In Kingdom Come Superman was at the peak of his strenth/toughness because of all the solar energy he had taken in over the years, kryptonite didnt even affect him anymore. He might not of been at his pre-crisis strenth/toughness, but it was up there. And, well, Captain Marvel still beat the living crap out of him. Yes, Superman in the end won, and could of crushed his head, but Captain Marvel still gave him one of the fights of his life. And Superman recently beat Thor, so Im going to give this one to Captain Marvel, well, because he's The Worlds Mightiest Mortal, and, uh, he's a Golden Age Hero!!! :D

I don't think he was talking about DC's Captain Marvel......

All Seeing Eye

11-04-2003, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by Mr. X
Whats with all of this King Thor stuff anyway? I havent been keeping up with whats going on with the character lately (never really liked him all that much) but im still curious. I hope it's not another cheesy way to boost his power, like Warrior Madness, or that Bear Shirt of whatever the hell it was he wore...

Pick up the Thor:Spiral trade paperback... It's one of the most intriquing comic stories this year.... and it'll prove to you that Thor isn't a lame character.

Also... Since Odin his father is dead...Thor takes over as king of Asgards....That's why he's called King Thor;)

Johnny Blaze

11-04-2003, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
Pick up the Thor:Spiral trade paperback... It's one of the most intriquing comic stories this year.... and it'll prove to you that Thor isn't a lame character.

Also... Since Odin his father is dead...Thor takes over as king of Asgards....That's why he's called King Thor;) Yes, pick up Spiral. Before you do though, pick up the Death of Odin and Gods on Earth trades to get the whole story. :)

STINK-E

11-04-2003, 11:35 PM

Captain Marvel is far more powerful than Thor....he destroyed the Universe and then re-created it!!!!!

Bathrat

11-05-2003, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
I don't think he was talking about DC's Captain Marvel......

yes i am.

Lord Coconut

11-05-2003, 12:06 AM

Then why didn't you mention it in the thread genius...

Guyverjay

11-05-2003, 07:55 AM

This fight already happened and thor won:o

Mr Furious

11-05-2003, 08:59 AM

captian marvel from MU would defeat thor!

Guyverjay

11-05-2003, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Mr Furious
captian marvel from MU would defeat thor!

But he's talkng about DC's captain marvel

Mr Furious

11-05-2003, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by guyverjay
But he's talkng about DC's captain marvel i know :) i just wanted to say that!

Jugsy

11-05-2003, 10:43 AM

the only captain marevel of any importance is half kree, half titan, 100% bastard! and would whoop thors ass in a milisecond.

:)

(that is unbias aswell;) )

Johnny Blaze

11-05-2003, 10:56 AM

Thor would, and already has, beat him.

Kmack

11-05-2003, 06:58 PM

Thor would win.

Dwarf lord

11-05-2003, 08:23 PM

Marv is the best

Morg

11-05-2003, 10:29 PM

I say Thor would win

Big Dirty Ogre

11-05-2003, 10:42 PM

i think thor would stomp on dc cap marvel.

The Batman

11-06-2003, 04:32 PM

Lets see....

Captain Marvel is as strong, or even stronger than superman....Who beat thor...

Marv wins

Big Dirty Ogre

11-06-2003, 04:37 PM

hasn't supes beaten captain marvel?

and the whole "this guy beat this guy" thing doesn't matter.

hulk has beaten thor.
wolverine has beaten hulk.
could wolverine beat thor?
HELL NO!!!!

11-06-2003, 07:52 PM

Wolverine has beaten Hulk? Are you referring to that ultra stupid Wolverine/Hulk series? The art in that comic is so bad...pisses me off just thinking about it :mad: . And of all things that knock the Hulk out, a landslide of snow does it. For pic's and more details on that fight, check out the link below. And the Hulk has been whupping Wolverines ass for 30 years, since his comic debut actually...Man I hate badly written stories...... :(

http://leaderslair.crosswinds.net/gammapeople/hulksmashes/wolverine-hulk2.html:

Rizmeister

11-06-2003, 08:12 PM

Wait, which Captain Marvel?

Big Dirty Ogre

11-06-2003, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Mr. X
Wolverine has beaten Hulk?
a while back, yeah.
in the first "round" of the fight.
he gutted hulk, and hulk was flat on his face for a minute.
hulk got up, and they started fighting again.
this was in hulk's book.
also, when wolverine was death, hulk threw him around, then wolvie cut him. hulk stopped, cuz he was hurt, and wolverine almost "finished" him.
he stopped himself, and hulk lept away.

but hulk could stomp him flat out if he really wanted to.
he'd just rather beat on him, and wolvie can take it till he gets an opening.
i was just illustrating that the "A guy beat B guy, and C gut beat A guy, so C guy could beat B guy" logic was silly.

Kmack

11-06-2003, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by The Batman
Lets see....

Captain Marvel is as strong, or even stronger than superman....Who beat thor...

Marv wins
But he has already been beaten by Thor. I don't even consider that JLA/Avengers an offical thing anymore.

I mean Thor being defeated was a little adjustable but when Galactus was defeated...that just took the cake and the icing as well. So Thor would win.

Plus somebody said he was defeated by Thor anyway.

11-06-2003, 09:11 PM

That was the Grey Hulk though. He's weaker, smaller, and his skin isnt invurnable. He took Wolverines best though (he was gutted) and healed right back up. I personally like the WHAT IF HULK KILLED WOLVERINE version of that story, when Hulk kills Wolverine (snaps his spine) and then goes on to kill several of the X Men and then takes on that other team, with the Blob and stuff, whatever that teams called. And dont think I meant anything negative by what I said bigdirtyogre, I just thought you were referring to that horrible Wolverine/Hulk series, and I was grumpy anyway... :)

Big Dirty Ogre

11-06-2003, 09:18 PM

it's all good, homey.
but when wolvie was death, he fought big bad green machine hulk, and cut him a few times.
wolvie's claws are one of the few things that can pierce hulk's skin.

Bat-Mantis

11-06-2003, 09:31 PM

Superman didn't lose to SHAZAM!. (I'll call him SHAZAM! so it won't be confusing)
Superman had Billys head in his hands at the end of that fight. Superman got fed up with it and grabbed him, he shouted, "ENOUGH!" meaning... well, he'd stopped playing around. At the end of it, all Supes had to do was squeese or give a little flip of his wrist and Billy's brain would be baby food... Superman could have said, "Ok, now you're my woman. Now I want you to ben over and take it like one!" and he would have had to do it.
Superman won, but it was one kick-ass battle.
Back on track: Thor would win. He controls the lightning, magic lightning is how Billy gets his powers. Thor could just deny the lightning or something and Billy would be screwed.
And if it was just a hand-to-hand between SHAZAM! and Thor, Thor would still win. It would be a good one though. SHAZAM! has always depended on his strength and speed to win fights and nothing more, really. I mean, he's just a kid... he hasn't mastered any fighting styles and has limited skills in that area and he doesn't have NEAR the experience Thor does.
Winner: Thor any way you look at it.

Human Torch II

11-06-2003, 09:47 PM

wolverine's claws maybe able to penetrates hulks skin, but he could never physically ever beat the hulk! Hulk should be able to crush him quickly! wolverine really doesnt stand that much of a chance imo!

Big Dirty Ogre

11-06-2003, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by Human Torch II
wolverine's claws maybe able to penetrates hulks skin, but he could never physically ever beat the hulk! Hulk should be able to crush him quickly! wolverine really doesnt stand that much of a chance imo!

well, read some comics, cuz it ain't as cut and dry as you think.

Human Torch II

11-06-2003, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by bigdirtyogre
well, read some comics, cuz it ain't as cut and dry as you think. i know wolverine has won, my point is that he shouldnt be able to because he is physically way out matched (obviously). imo its stupid that he could beat the hulk by himself, but o well, its just my opinion.

11-06-2003, 10:08 PM

Actually, for the record, Wolverines claws cant penetrate the Hulks skin. He once said something to the extent of,"My claws arent having any effect on him, or maybe hes just healing so fast I cant tell?". And yes, as War his claws did cut the Hulks throat, and he did it a couple of times. But he had strength enchancements and all of that, and the Hulk still won that fight anyway. Wolverine also cut out the Hulks eyes once, unfortunatly he just healed up and then proceeded to kick Wolvies ass. Dont get me wrong, I love Wolverine, and he's really bad ass, but he's nothing next to the Hulk. I mean, hes 5'3, and 200 pounds without his adamantium skelaton, and were putting him against a 7 foot tall 1,200 pound monster. Hulk needs to fight people like Mangog and The Abomination, not Wolverine.

11-06-2003, 10:10 PM

And if you dont believe me about the Wolverine/Hulk eye thing (I have a feeling someone's going to say something about me just making it up) then go and pick up the Hulk issue 8, the 1999 1-11 series, the one that lead to the Incredible being added back into the title. It was just called "The Hulk" then.

Human Torch II

11-06-2003, 10:15 PM

imagine what the movie hulk could do to hugh jackman wolverine! :eek:

Big Dirty Ogre

11-06-2003, 10:15 PM

wolverine as death, wolverine #145:

http://wolverine.x-knights.com/wolverine145.html

Big Dirty Ogre

11-06-2003, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by Human Torch II
imagine what the movie hulk could do to hugh jackman wolverine! :eek:
no doubt.
movie wolverine is a puss compared to his comic book self.

Human Torch II

11-06-2003, 10:31 PM

i wonder if any recent marvel movie character could take out hulk. prof x or jean grey maybe, but hulk has always been difficult to control his mind. physically, well no one i can think of could take him. maybe colossus but i doubt it.

superjoint

11-07-2003, 06:16 AM

of course it would be thor no contest!

Kmack

11-07-2003, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by Human Torch II
i wonder if any recent marvel movie character could take out hulk. prof x or jean grey maybe, but hulk has always been difficult to control his mind. physically, well no one i can think of could take him. maybe colossus but i doubt it.

Rogue. :D

-masta^minded-

11-09-2003, 01:49 AM

thor wins hands down

ThorFan

11-09-2003, 02:44 PM

Thor wins, next post please.

The Batman

11-09-2003, 03:09 PM

Shazam wins

IOf Supes can beat him, then Shazam, who has beaten Superman before, both Pre and post crisis, can definetely....

Shadow_Knight

07-20-2006, 11:04 PM

Thor.

Vartha

07-21-2006, 11:26 AM

I thought this was covered once, I pictured Thor controling CM with his hammer like a radio controled car. :D

Still A ThorFan

07-25-2006, 05:47 PM

Any hero with the name Marvel at the end is going to get his ass kicked by a Norse God who carries a hammer, can control the weather, teleport, and has uncanny strength.

Not to mention the other powers he now posseses from his late Father who was as powerful as Zeus, God of Gods.

comicgenius2111

07-25-2006, 07:44 PM

thor

herakles

07-25-2006, 08:20 PM

the only captain marevel of any importance is half kree, half titan, 100% bastard! and would whoop thors ass in a milisecond.

:)

(that is unbias aswell;) )

If Cap Marvel is such a BAD ASS then why is he DEAD!!!!!

Kool-Aid

07-25-2006, 08:25 PM

Thats how badass he is.

CrypticOne

07-25-2006, 08:26 PM

I have to give it to Thor.

Rellings

07-25-2006, 08:27 PM

Thor.

The Cleric

07-26-2006, 01:01 AM

doesnt matter which cap marvel.... thor would stick his hammer up his ass go to space, call the hammer back with Marvels spine attached.

Slim31

07-26-2006, 02:13 AM

doesnt matter which cap marvel.... thor would stick his hammer up his ass go to space, call the hammer back with Marvels spine attached.

oh good one...crybaby bastard

Mr. Green

07-26-2006, 04:16 PM

Thor would destroy Cap.

Jplaya2023

07-26-2006, 04:45 PM

Is this the captain marvel that says shazaam?? If it is then he wins by electricuting thor to death

TheCorpulent1

07-26-2006, 04:50 PM

Brilliant. I wonder why no one ever thought of electrocuting the Norse god of lightning to death before?

Jplaya2023

07-26-2006, 04:55 PM

Brilliant. I wonder why no one ever thought of electrocuting the Norse god of lightning to death before?

I thought Zeus was the GOD of lightning

TheCorpulent1

07-26-2006, 04:57 PM

He's the Greek god of lightning. Different set of gods.

U.S War Machine

07-26-2006, 05:44 PM

But he's talkng about DC's captain marvelohhh dang Well the DC Captain Marvel stinks cuz the MU one would kick his aaa

Mistress Gluon

07-26-2006, 07:25 PM

Brilliant. I wonder why no one ever thought of electrocuting the Norse god of lightning to death before?

They could use DC's transmutative lightning, and just change Thor back into Blake. Or you know, some ridiculous crap fest like that.

That, and couldn't Thor's hammer just basically turn "off" Billy's powers? :o

Vanguard07

07-26-2006, 07:52 PM

yep

Slim31

07-26-2006, 08:24 PM

Captain Marvel is a bum, Thor will wipe the floor with him.

herakles

07-26-2006, 08:33 PM

Brilliant. I wonder why no one ever thought of electrocuting the Norse god of lightning to death before?

HAHAHAHAHA I know WHY didn't I think of that!!!!

TheCorpulent1

07-26-2006, 08:43 PM

They could use DC's transmutative lightning, and just change Thor back into Blake. Or you know, some ridiculous crap fest like that.

That, and couldn't Thor's hammer just basically turn "off" Billy's powers? :o
I doubt the former would work. Every time other people besides a Marvel family member have been hit by the Wizard's magic lightning, it's acted like normal lightning and just shocked the hell out of them.

For the latter, Thor's divine powers can only summon and control normal, natural lightning, as far as I know. Mjolnir, however, might be able to suck the magic energy out of Billy, robbing him of his Captain Marvel powers.

Warhammer

07-26-2006, 08:58 PM

Thor would win.
...wait, Marvel's Captain Marvel or Captain Marvel (Shazam!)?

The thread starter was very vague. :down

KevanG

07-26-2006, 10:30 PM

I doubt the former would work. Every time other people besides a Marvel family member have been hit by the Wizard's magic lightning, it's acted like normal lightning and just shocked the hell out of them.

For the latter, Thor's divine powers can only summon and control normal, natural lightning, as far as I know. Mjolnir, however, might be able to suck the magic energy out of Billy, robbing him of his Captain Marvel powers.

In Marvel Vs DC Thor turned CM back into Billy by using his hammer to interupt the lightning before he could turn back into CM.

Mistress Gluon

07-27-2006, 12:47 AM

I doubt the former would work. Every time other people besides a Marvel family member have been hit by the Wizard's magic lightning, it's acted like normal lightning and just shocked the hell out of them.

For the latter, Thor's divine powers can only summon and control normal, natural lightning, as far as I know. Mjolnir, however, might be able to suck the magic energy out of Billy, robbing him of his Captain Marvel powers.

Aside from the crap in the Omac Project that utilized Transmutative lightning to change back Mary Marvel. :o

Mistress Gluon

07-27-2006, 12:48 AM

Thor would win.
...wait, Marvel's Captain Marvel or Captain Marvel (Shazam!)?

The thread starter was very vague. :down

The normally powered Captain Marvel from DC.

chuckymack

07-31-2006, 10:50 PM

Captain Marvel would hand Thor his ass a million times over before that Norse pissant could even blink.
Is Thor as fast as light?........'Cause Marvel is.
By the way, Marvelheads, Captain Marvel's powers have increased threefold as evidenced in 'Brave New World'. Thor can't change Marvel back to Billy because the wizard's dead and all his knowledge and power have been given to Billy, and since the wizard's dead, he can't send the lightning to change him.
Billy's power is now permanent, and there's no 'transformation copout' option, now.
Also: Billy Batson's is the most noble soul in the DCU. He'd beat Thor to death with his own hammer.

TheCorpulent1

07-31-2006, 11:09 PM

I assumed we were talking about regular Thor and regular Captain Marvel. If you're gonna bump Billy up to his current level, I'd say Thor should be bumped up to his levels in "Ragnarok," after he'd gained full control of the Odinpower and learned to use rune magic. That would be a pretty spectacular fight. :up:
In Marvel Vs DC Thor turned CM back into Billy by using his hammer to interupt the lightning before he could turn back into CM.
Yeah, but Mjolnir has always been able to absorb energy. That's why it stopped the lightning, in my mind. Not because it granted Thor control over the lightning or anything. Thor's always only been able to control natural lightning.

Zeu

07-31-2006, 11:23 PM

Monica Rambeau would eat Thor´s liver.

<- ducks

TheCorpulent1

07-31-2006, 11:24 PM

Nah, Thor would just absorb her into Mjolnir. Energy beings are pretty well f***ed against Thor. :p

marcofthebeast

07-31-2006, 11:29 PM

At first the said just Thor vs. Captain Marvel then people started mentioning King Thor... Well now that Captain Marvel's power is currently one hundredfold. It all just depends on the version people are going for and being a big Captain Marvel Fan I'm going for him.

TheCorpulent1

07-31-2006, 11:34 PM

Well, we still don't really know what Captain Marvel's capable of now. All we know is that he's more powerful. We don't know the degree or anything, and he's clearly having a rough time coping with the changes his promotion has brought, if the last issue of 52 is any indication. He had the crrraaaaazy eyes.

marcofthebeast

07-31-2006, 11:40 PM

He, like Superman has the eyes of a killer! And Billy is also from the streets.

chuckymack

08-01-2006, 02:47 PM

That's true. Believe me, as a Hoosier, I know how tough the Indiana streets can be.

sto_vo_kor_2000

08-01-2006, 04:06 PM

Think about it this way if you were to strip them both of their super strength and godly powers make them equal.And put them in a street fight who would win.Thor would.

TheCorpulent1

08-01-2006, 07:03 PM

Lady Stormcrow

08-01-2006, 07:16 PM

Cap. would win IMO

Mistress Gluon

08-01-2006, 07:31 PM

Mistress Gluon

08-01-2006, 07:32 PM

He, like Superman has the eyes of a killer! And Billy is also from the streets.

And Thor is from Asgard. Place where pretty much all they do is drink, sleep, cheat on their spouses, and fight.

It's like everybody says that the Greek Gods are better fighters, where in the Norse pantheon, if they didn't have an official God of War in Tyr, they'd ALL be considered gods of war.

TheCorpulent1

08-01-2006, 08:12 PM

LibrarianThorne

08-01-2006, 08:51 PM

Well, Billy Batson is now Shazam, who's more on the level of Doctor Strange than Thor. We don't know how strong Freddy Freeman is as Captain Marvel, though apparently he and Mary Marvel will get a substantial power boost.

sto_vo_kor_2000

08-01-2006, 09:03 PM

But... they'd have their powers for the fight. Strip the Hulk of his strength and the Punisher could kick his ass. What bearing does that have on how they'd fare in a fight with their powers? :confused:

I was trying to see it like a boxing match.Trying to see who the better fighter is.If what you want to see is who out-powers who in this case it would be C.M. he just has more power but he is not a better fighter.:D

CptMarvellous

08-04-2006, 02:53 PM

Cap. would win IMO
Shazam yes!

Fatality

08-04-2006, 05:40 PM

Cap. would win IMO
what he said

Mistress Gluon

08-04-2006, 07:26 PM

They pretty much are all gods of war. I don't remember Tyr ever doing anything that set him apart as more war-loving than the rest of the gods. He was the only one who had the balls to put his hand in Fenris' mouth, but that's courage, not war skills. Plus, it's pretty consistent throughout the Norse myths that Thor was, in fact, the greatest warrior among the gods. It was his power and Mjollnir that kept the giants at bay, for the most part.

Either way, I'm fairly certain Thor is easily the better fighter out of the two of them. Whether that's enough to counter Captain Marvel's extreme speed advantage is debatable.

Thor is considered Asgard's greatest warrior, even in myths.

And Tyr is not anywhere NEAR as much a fighter as Thor is. Thor will be in a wheelchair, and do more warring and fighting than Tyr ever will.

However, the Nordic did relate courage to warriors, and Tyr was the only one willing to sacrifice his hand to Fenrir, earning him a much larger status in courage, where Thor simply would've tried to fight him. Tyr was simply more savvy since the point of the whole situation was to merely chain up Fenrir.

And while one could argue that is Thor's courage shining through. Mythological Thor was not much smarter than his hammer. Tyr was cunning, and understood that Fenrir couldn't be stopped that way, and so chose the way that could keep him from being a threat. Tyr was definitely smarter than Thor.

And actually, the giants at bay and Ragnarok thing were a little different. The giants didn't attack simply because they were afraid of all the Norse gods, though they definitely would agitate them from time to time (and on more than one occassion, they would mess with Thor specifically). But Ragnarok was about WAY more than just the giants, they were the war to end all wars by the children of Loki. So they were technically giants, since Loki was the child of an ice giant, but it was more of a different war, since it would be brought on by Surtur.

And you don't have to tell me, Corpy.

Remember who it was who led you to those myths of the Nordic people. ;)