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Stoner_Fanboy

11-07-2003, 01:48 PM

Late last night I was in Wal-mart with some friends because we have nothing better to do. I saw these pretty cool 3-D Marvel posters and I picked up an X-men one. When I went check out the chasier goes "How old are you?" and I say "23" and she's goes "This is for you?" and I proundly say "YES It is!" and she's says "Ok". It just gets me how close minded people are about comics. I was thinking the same thing when I got out of the movie theather last night from watching The Matrix. Yeah The Matrix is cool and all but I read this type of stuff ALL the time in comics, so it's nothing really new to me. If people would keep an open minded for 2 seconds they would see that comics are NOT childern's reading material. I guess that's why even when comics were sold in non-comic shops I still bought them at comic stores because I hate getting looks from people, even though I'm not ashamed to buy comics I just don't like dealing with redneck hicks who can't even read giving me looks. When will this world see that comics offer so much more than movies do? When will the world stop being a world filled with idiots?!

FlameHead

11-07-2003, 04:01 PM

That'll likely happen when the computers take over and create a whole new dream world using humans as batteries.

I hear what you're saying though... and the funny thing is, the majority of comic collecters aren't kids. They're adults and a lot of them are way beyond their 20's.

Godlovinspidey

11-07-2003, 04:56 PM

Yeah, a lot are teenagers, too. I used to be afraid that people would make fun of me if I told them, but then, I just stopped caring, and lots of people ask me questions about them, and its pretty cool since I don't, and not too many other people, care if I do. Its not embarrasing like it used to kind of be.

Rizmeister

11-07-2003, 09:30 PM

I don't give a **** what people think. **** people.

Though I don't like to be associated with most comic collectors, they're a bunch of nerds.

mg_productions

11-07-2003, 10:03 PM

Regardless of what we may think chicks don't dig comic collectors unless she too is into them.The trick is to sucker them in,and THEN tell them.Make sure they kinda like you first.But be careful,they can run pretty damn fast.

Stoner_Fanboy

11-08-2003, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by Rizmeister
I don't give a **** what people think. **** people.

Though I don't like to be associated with most comic collectors, they're a bunch of nerds.
What's wrong with being a nerd? lol Personally I'm ok with people calling me a nerd for collecting comics but being called a kid or "childish" pisses me off.

Stoner_Fanboy

11-08-2003, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by mg_productions
Regardless of what we may think chicks don't dig comic collectors unless she too is into them.The trick is to sucker them in,and THEN tell them.Make sure they kinda like you first.But be careful,they can run pretty damn fast.
Oh yeah I tottally agree, but I would never try to get a girl to read comics unless they had at least some mild interest. I actually met a girl once that was into comics AND punk rock, two things I LOVE but she got pissed at me because she found out I smoke pot lol oh well, I don't let anyone change who I am.

Rizmeister

11-08-2003, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by Stoner_Fanboy
What's wrong with being a nerd? lol Personally I'm ok with people calling me a nerd for collecting comics but being called a kid or "childish" pisses me off. Well, I'm a nerd, I was joking, but still, a lot of comic fans are really stupid. They are just obsessive. Like the geeks who nitpick tiny inconsistinces in continuity. Not like now, when there is no continuity, but like back in the early 90s when it was damn near perfect. And someone would complain about graffiti in Fantastic Four not being in ASM.

Godlovinspidey

11-08-2003, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by mg_productions
Regardless of what we may think chicks don't dig comic collectors unless she too is into them. Not true. :o

Orko Is King

11-08-2003, 05:08 PM

Every time someone at my school sees me reading a comic, they always ask if they can see it. And sometimes they get really excited about it and start asking questions.

Big Dirty Ogre

11-08-2003, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by Stoner_Fanboy
What's wrong with being a nerd? lol Personally I'm ok with people calling me a nerd for collecting comics but being called a kid or "childish" pisses me off.

i'm the same way.
most people don't say **** about it, though, because i'm rather large.
btw, stoner fanboy, what part of louisiana are you from? i'm from Abbeville, near lafayette and erath.

mg_productions

11-08-2003, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by Stoner_Fanboy
she got pissed at me because she found out I smoke pot.

Yeah,the pot smoking thing will usually lose them if the comics won't.heh heh.That's great.

Computron2005

11-08-2003, 09:38 PM

Im 17 and I started collecting when I was 15. Most people in my high school think comics are cool and I know quite a few collectors.

Lazlo Panaflex

11-08-2003, 09:50 PM

Most of my co-workers know that I draw and buy comic books and say that I have real talent in drawing and often suggest that I look into breaking in the comic book field.

Instead I'm stuck working at Mickey D's. *sniff sniff*

Marvelous

11-08-2003, 10:06 PM

Great point, Stoner_Boy, I totally understand and agree. And yet, I still believe that comicbooks about superheroes should be all-ages material, for the most part (especially long-established characters that always were in the first place). Comics are stories you can discover as a kid, and still enjoy as an adult. I disagree with those who seem to think that making superhero stories more "realistic" and "mature" will give them legitimacy in the eyes of the people you describe, much less improve sales. I think it's had the opposite effect, over the last 15 years or so...

If I had to make a choice, I'd sooner accept people seeing comics as immature than being unsuitable for their kids.

incurock31

11-08-2003, 10:43 PM

Comics aren't just for kids, and anyone who thinks so is an idiot. I dare them to read Preacher or Transmetropolitan and say that afterwards.

Godlovinspidey

11-09-2003, 06:24 PM

Yeah, seriously. I don't think I've seen little kids looking at comic books in almost any bookstore I've ever been in. That's just a stereotype because kids read them back in the 60s at drugstores all day while licking lollipops. :rolleyes:

Stoner_Fanboy

11-09-2003, 07:39 PM

Yeah not often anyone will see a kid in a comicshop but I did not to long ago, and I have to say it brought a smile to my face to see a 12 or 13 year old checking out comics.

FlameHead

11-10-2003, 10:07 AM

Yeah, it gives hope for the future of Comics.

Lt. Figgnuts

11-10-2003, 09:20 PM

Stoner_Fanboy, you fool! She was a keper!
Anyway, Stoner, I totally agree with you on the thing about a Matrix thing. Ever since I saw the first one, I've thought it was the best comic book movie not based on a comic book. All of the action sequences seem like they could jump right off a comic book page.
And it always bugs me when people look down on the comic book industry or think people who read it are immature or retarded or something. For example, the other day, I needed a binder for school. I told my mom that I needed one, and she said to me, "Well, you should have spent your money on something productive, instead of those comics." That always makes me mad when she says stuff like that. Grah.

Anyway. I'm a fan of continuity. I'm not uber-sensitive about it ("Holy crap! Peter Parker's hair is longer this issue than it was last issue! Last issue, that building was next to this building, but this issue, it's next to that building!"), but I think it's a nice, healthy thing, as long as you don't have to be up on years and years of comics just to pick up a stand-alone issue or arc. It should be there, but it shouldn't dominate. It should be there and at the same time allow a newcomer to pick up an issue and more or less understand it.

eris

11-10-2003, 11:47 PM

screw all of you, you have no idea, what do you think its like to walk into a comic shop & get the "what the hell are you doing in here?" (& im not that pretty, ok maybe they are cheaking out the rack)...thank gawd for the snail (comic shop with a lot of female staff)....or the odd look when you buy a toy or the searching for the rug rat that you are buying it for...not to mention getting shown the E games for your kid or the "i think your boyfreind will like this one" when you are looking at ones with an M...not to mention him sulking when you beat him at a game or being mistaken for a groupy at a rock show...so :p

THE8th

11-12-2003, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by Stoner_Fanboy
Oh yeah I tottally agree, but I would never try to get a girl to read comics unless they had at least some mild interest. I actually met a girl once that was into comics AND punk rock, two things I LOVE but she got pissed at me because she found out I smoke pot lol oh well, I don't let anyone change who I am.

Thats a bummer. That sounds like a awsome chick. I my parents dont ridicule me for my intrest in comics. I dont think I've ever spent hard earned money on comics. My mom has just always bought them for me. But for this I am lucky. I some times wonder why I do so bad with girls is becouse comics have made me such a freak. Without comics I dont know what I ever would have done. I'd probably would have turned out the way I am without comics. Through my adolecence and my teens I didnt snowboard, skakeboard, I wasnt into video games, comics were my only hobby. Which is what I think probably striked the problem. But know ones really ever told me "dont read comics, comics are for little kids" However its mostlly soicety that puts that lable on comics. Sometimes I think I should get out of them so I dont become like those fat guys who work in comic stores(it so errie,their just like comic book guy from the simpsons)

But if this topic is of intrest to you you should read scott MCcoulds understanding comics. This guy knows so much.

guj19

11-13-2003, 02:08 AM

From the girl standpoint, if it comes up, it comes up. i wouldn't bring up a love of comics up on the first date or anything. I dated a really hot girl and she didn't seem to mind so long as i admitted my dorkiness.

I'm 22 and I goota tell you, I don't look like i belong in a comic shop when i go there. The reason for the stereotype of the loser is... sadly, those are the guys at the shop. If a guy can't have a conversation without interjecting something about comics in the mix, he's a comic geek loser, plain and simple. another problem is that most people who read comics don't care about the story they are reading so much as the pictures they are looking at. I agree that it is always a pleasure to look at great art in a comic, but that does not constitute a great comic. how else can you explain all those years X-men was just horrible in writing and still garnering the top selling spot in comics? We've all been stereotyped as people who would rather look at the pictures rather than read because of the people who made runs like that possible. sorry if you are one of 'em, but you need to realize that comics are still a form of literature and you really should seek out the best stories, not just the best art.

To me, a comic is just like any book i've ever read, but having an artist's rendering of actions taking place. The artist can show you "his hand trembled in fear as he moved closer to the door" with a single picture. The same sensory description is conveyed and you don't need to read the long paragraph about it. if you read comics, read them because they are good and you think they are good, not because Wizard Magazine told you it was or simply because it is a comic book. There are comics that suck. Really bad. it happens in everything. If you try to entertain your mind all the way, people will begin to understand that we aren't all just looking at the pictures.

Doomed_hero

11-13-2003, 02:15 AM

Comics arent just for kids. I read and really dont care what others say. I would like them to read The Wacthmen and still tell me comics are for kids.

Atomic Angel

11-13-2003, 04:06 AM

Originally posted by Doomed_hero
Comics arent just for kids. I read and really dont care what others say. I would like them to read The Wacthmen and still tell me comics are for kids.

Tell them to read Vertigo comics and let's see if comic books are for kids.:eek:

mg_productions

11-14-2003, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by eris
screw all of you, you have no idea, what do you think its like to walk into a comic shop & get the "what the hell are you doing in here?" (& im not that pretty, ok maybe they are cheaking out the rack)...thank gawd for the snail (comic shop with a lot of female staff)....or the odd look when you buy a toy or the searching for the rug rat that you are buying it for...not to mention getting shown the E games for your kid or the "i think your boyfreind will like this one" when you are looking at ones with an M...not to mention him sulking when you beat him at a game or being mistaken for a groupy at a rock show...so :p

Uh hmm,uh hmm....'thank gawd for the sna'.......wait...Wait,I'm sorry,di...did you say rack?Oh okay,great.

I'm sorry,I thought it would be funny.

Stoner_Fanboy

11-14-2003, 06:35 PM

Tell them to read some Henti comics and see if that's for kids? lol Ok, maybe that shouldn't be for anyone either lol, nah **** it, what you do in your home is no one business but you're own, just listen to Vinilla Sex by NoFx

the defenders

11-14-2003, 08:09 PM

heheh
I wish i knew a girl who liked comics and punk rock
I'd be set

eris

11-15-2003, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by mg_productions

I'm sorry,I thought it would be funny.

what i find funny is you seem to be the only one who has picked up that their is a female in thier midst :D

mg_productions

11-15-2003, 12:17 AM

Yeah,I'm good.

Unlike some fanboys,I have an interest in other things as well;)

Godlovinspidey

11-15-2003, 12:49 AM

I do too. :)

Roughneck

11-15-2003, 07:56 AM

I do as well.

I started Buying comics after highschool. I have never been emmbarassed about it. I do get bugged but I don't care. If a girl I'm dating has a problem with the comics then she can leave. That is like her saying "It's either me or the dog."

Some people undersatand that the comics are not just great entertainment but also an investment. I know that if I am ever in finacial trouble I have a room full of stuff I can sell for some good coin. Also the amount of stuff that I have actually learned from comics is unfathomable. But the people who say that it is childish can kiss my ass when I make my living in a childish career.

As for the girls. I have never met one that has a broblem with it. (Yes I have met a few). The way most of them see it is 'well he spends some money on comics, at least he reads.' or 'hey he spends money on comics, at least he doesnt blow all of his money on booze and drugs."

That is what I find in my experience anyway.

Godlovinspidey

11-15-2003, 04:14 PM

Yeah, I was surprised, when I actually started telling people that it was one of my hobbies, they were like: Cool, what kind do you read? And I've met many a collector or at least someone who was genuinely interested like that. So now, if they don't like them, I honestly don't care. And if they think I'm a loser because of my hobby, I wouldn't want to be their friend anyway.

Mr. Edward Hyde

11-16-2003, 01:18 AM

Well lets face it. most of comic collectors are morbidly obease , live in there moms basements and will remain virgins (and your hand doesnt count) the rest of their lives. sad but true. i hardly see any girls in comic shops. i saw one covered in warts one time and i thought i was going to vomit. most of the men i see walk in are over 200 lbs. its sad but true. some of them are older and like to buy the old valuble comics hanging on the wall. and i hated it when i was like fourteen and i would go into the shop and the old dude would be like "dont touch" "its for sale" "dont wrinkle the pages" he thought i was a ***kin idiot or something. but i wasnt that stupid.

eris

11-16-2003, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by Mr. EDWARD HYDE
Well lets face it. most of comic collectors are morbidly obease , live in there moms basements and will remain virgins (and your hand doesnt count) the rest of their lives. sad but true. i hardly see any girls in comic shops. i saw one covered in warts one time and i thought i was going to vomit. most of the men i see walk in are over 200 lbs. its sad but true. some of them are older and like to buy the old valuble comics hanging on the wall. and i hated it when i was like fourteen and i would go into the shop and the old dude would be like "dont touch" "its for sale" "dont wrinkle the pages" he thought i was a ***kin idiot or something. but i wasnt that stupid.

where do you live? cus that isnt the sceene where i'm from

THE8th

11-16-2003, 10:03 PM

Its always nice to meet people who are into comics and a cool,good looking, and are not morbidlly obese, and have a girl friend. I have met very little of these people, as a matter of fact I dont think I ever have. If only I new where the hot chick who are into comics and punk rock are hideing.

Lt. Figgnuts

11-17-2003, 12:12 AM

My girlfriend has no problem with my comic habit. She doesn't read them, but sometimes I'll get carried away and start overexplaining Ultimate Spider-Man or Superman/Batman and she won't even care...one of the reasons I'm so into her.
As for people just looking at the pictures, or assuming that that's all comic fans do...I HATE that. I am VERY into reading, and the person that said that comics are a form of literature is very true. The art is a big part, and bad art will drive some people away, but if the art rocks and the story sucks the buyer is going to regret buying the comic once he realizes that he wasted his money for pretty pictures.
I love to read. It's one of the reasons I got into comics. The art and the writing all come together to make a monthly masterpiece. As good as some of the best novels out there, I say.

Godlovinspidey

11-17-2003, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by Mr. EDWARD HYDE
Well lets face it. most of comic collectors are morbidly obease , live in there moms basements and will remain virgins (and your hand doesnt count) the rest of their lives. sad but true. i hardly see any girls in comic shops. i saw one covered in warts one time and i thought i was going to vomit. most of the men i see walk in are over 200 lbs. its sad but true. some of them are older and like to buy the old valuble comics hanging on the wall. and i hated it when i was like fourteen and i would go into the shop and the old dude would be like "dont touch" "its for sale" "dont wrinkle the pages" he thought i was a ***kin idiot or something. but i wasnt that stupid. Wow, I don't know where you live, but I don't know anyone over 200 pounds that reads comics. All the comic-readers I know are perfectly normal people, with a good group of friends, and some are pretty popular. Comic books [here at least] doesn't really bring down your social status.

Roughneck

11-17-2003, 03:59 AM

True some fans are te typical stereotype. It had to come from somewhere. I see fat loser guys, no offence, in my store but I also see nomal guys too guys like me. The only time I see a girl in the store is if she is with a child or her boyfriend. But me, I make my mom wait in the car:D.

The thing I really hate is when the guy working at the store is not a comic fan. That just pisses me right off.

Lt. Figgnuts

11-17-2003, 11:58 PM

Exactly. You have no right to be in the business in any way, shape, or form if you're not at least marginally interested in the medium.
Most of the people I know that read comics aren't the "typical comic loser" either. But there is one guy who works at my comic shop who definitley fits the stereotype...his upper half is like...twice as huge as his bottom half. He has a huge upper-body and peglegs, it's freaky.

FlameHead

11-22-2003, 10:14 AM

So comic shop nerds are stereotyped to be illproportioned people now?

Jugsy

11-22-2003, 03:40 PM

man, if people want to call be a ner, fine, I LMAO when I'm making 80K a year designing video games, or writting stoies or some ****, and there working at the local 7-11, with some nocked up b**** at home, and a run down car.

Read ANY charles dickens story (y know, the type that examiners are just SO happy to make you study for a diploma)

then read ....eani-meani-miny-mo.....Alias, and tell me which one is better.

it's funny how people don't even take into consideration that comci writers, make books, write movies, Tv shows, ect.:rolleyes:

what i hate the most thoug, is how the goverments (US, UK, ECT) aren't even trying to get kids off of their PS2 and reading, yeas, READING (ya know, like you are required to do to become succeful in life) comics or somesuch. People studying for GCSE's shouldn't have to read Romeo and juliet (boring as hell), but something that they would like. A lot of people like fantasy or sci-fi, so why not let them read LOTR or Starship troops, a lot of people know who superman is, why not let them read Kingdom Come?!

Lt. Figgnuts

11-22-2003, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by FlameHead
So comic shop nerds are stereotyped to be illproportioned people now?

Well, no, but I mean the grossly overweight thing. The rest of it is just a side note.

Acro

11-26-2003, 06:42 AM

There are no better group of people that analyse different factors than comicbook readers.

THE8th

11-27-2003, 01:50 AM

you'd think it to be a stero-type but its just a thing. People who read comics are usually weak,fat,wear glasses or are 50 years old men who are fat and have beards. But when I read interveiws with these wreslers who were probably brought up into a very repulication family and were school yard bullies and for it got all the girls. And there yapping about starting their own comic store, or that they've read comics all their life. Us nerds in theroy after a life of alienation from women and friendship, tend to strike back at the world which has shunned us and become big time derectors, Great vissonaries of the generation. And end up becomeing filthy ****ing rich. Becouse we are on a diffrent imaginative track then the rest of the world. I'd like to find out were the hot chicks who are into comics and punk have been hideing and go find them.

vegeta21

12-04-2003, 01:01 PM

I just did a presentation in my popular literature class on comics and graphic novels last week.

DBM

12-10-2003, 11:35 AM

I have to chime in on this.

IMO there is a reason for the stereotypes. When I go into my local comic store every Wed. I'm surrounded by the obese, bearded, socially inept, comic geeks in their stained, black Vampirella or Lady Death t-shirts. I feel totally out of place being a clean-cut professional just getting off work and going to the store in my khakis and a polo shirt.

But I don't really care because we all share the love of comics.

But I do hate the gamers that hang out in there. F***ing gamers.

BTW, while Watchmen is an excellent comic, one of my favorites, it doesn't show the average person how "grown-up" comics can be. It's still about superheroes, evil plots, and mysterious villans.

If you really want to show people what comics are capable of have them read MAUS by Art Spiegelman. It's IMO the best comic story ever written. If you haven't read it, pick it up.

Kevin Roegele

12-11-2003, 08:27 PM

Get this; I only know of one comicbook shop, but not only is it staffed by TWO women, atleast 45% of the customers are women! Oh yes. And every single one of them is 20-30, and the majority are Go-Aths. The store foucusses mostly independent and cult books about teenage girls and talking rabbits, but they have a lot of mainstream back issues and trade paperbacks.

I wouldn't go as far as to say it's a cool place, but it's certainly not your typical comicbook shop (as far as I know, I've only been in one other).

Kevin Roegele

12-11-2003, 08:33 PM

Here's my take; comicbooks themsleves are cool, and to collect them is somewhat cool (M. Night Shayamalan, Nicolas Cage, Samuel L. Jackson, Shaquile O'Neal, Billy Zane and Kevin Roegele all have large collections). To be obsessed with them is not, and that makes you a geek. Same goes for Star Trek, Star Wars, Dungeons & Dragons stuff, and so on. If you value it more than you should do - see it as more of a hobby, devote your life to it insome way - then it's SAD, and you are a LOSER. ;)

THE8th

12-11-2003, 11:44 PM

The guys who work in comic stores are the result of one looking at the girls in comic stores. Guy+looks at girl in comic store= Fat guy who works in comic store. Get the whole lord of the rings thing I got going here:D

Kevin Roegele

12-14-2003, 11:41 AM

"Critics who treat "adult" as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adults themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence....When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
C. S. Lewis, On Three Ways of Writing for Children

ohwattagosiam

12-14-2003, 01:29 PM

Very cool Kev.

I live in the UK where comics isn't such a big a thing as in the US. Most of the people that take the p*** out of me for collecting/reading comics only have there childhood memories of comics like The Beano, or The Dandy (ha, so gay), with characters like Desperate Dan and Dennis the Menace to go on. They have absolutely no idea of what comics are like today (they haven't read a comic for 20yrs), or rather the type of comics that I read. The Dandy/Beano were/are aimed specifically at children. That is all they have to go on, and these morons have the gall to argue with me about it having never read a single issue of (say) Punisher, Daredevil and other more adult orientated titles. Ignorant fools! Some of the time I let them read a copy of ASM #36, and it always shuts them up. Quite a powerful issue regardless of whether you're into superheroes or not.

wolvie2020

12-24-2003, 09:56 AM

Yo! Owattagosiam! where do ya live? I'm in the UK too, London, (NW to be precise,)

I tend to get a pretty good reaction everytime I tell someone I'm into comics. I don't know where you live, but I spend most of my life in central London, and I end up meeting a lot of people into comics, and I meet a lot of people who respect me as I managed to carry on collecting.

I used to be scared of telling people, but I guess you grow up some day and stop giving a ****. It was such a surprise to me that so many people dug what I was talking about, it's even got to the point where one of the reasons my current girlfriend is with me is because I'm into comics in my free time, as opposed to something mundane like football

I'm a musician, and when I went to music school it was so funny when I'd bring out my comics or bring out an issue of Wizard. So many people would ask me question after question, and keep lookin' at my books. It got to the point where I wouldn't pull them out anymore, as I couldn't read them, and people would keep grabbing them!

ohwattagosiam

12-25-2003, 07:03 PM

Hey Wolvie 2020,

I live in a little place called the Forest of Dean, (35sq. miles of woodland), or more specifically Coleford. It's as far west of London as you can get without going into Wales.

Unfortunately, the nearest decent comic store to me is 30 miles away in Bristol (there's one in Gloucester, which is 10 miles closer to me, but it's small, expensive and doesn't carry many titles), so I'm kinda isolated when it comes to this. The only comics you can get hold of around here is whatever's in the newsagents i.e British reprints of USM, UXM, Astonishing Spider-man etc. I only know of two people who share my interest in comics and one now lives in Oxford :(

Like you, I don't care what other poeple think of me or my interest. They don't like it? Fine, they don't have to hang around me and waste my time. Besides, 99% of the time they haven't even read any comics, so I mentally file their opinion under "Too stupid to give a ****!" If they actually read some I might give a damn, but what the hey.

I remember lending a female colleague, who'd been taking the piss, an issue of Uncanny (#?) in a stand alone about animal cruelty (not the best issue ever, but I knew she was quite into pets). She read it and nearly cried when Jean was reading the telepathic residue of the dead dog. She didn't poke fun at comics again.

wolvie2020

12-26-2003, 08:24 AM

Hey mate, I just sent Spiderfan4eva a post on good websites and good stores that have websites. Its in the Spiderman comics forum, and under 'help me please' or something to that extent. It may help you in getting decent books at a decent price.

ohwattagosiam

12-28-2003, 07:42 AM

Cheers Wolvie2020,

I do get a reasonable deal on my comics. I think. They've got a pretty good points system, but I'm not to sure about their conversion rate (i.e. $ to £'s). Sometimes I think I'm paying slighty over the top for the comics in the first place, only to get my money back when I claim my points.

Will definitely check out the info you provided though.

:)

masteryoda

12-28-2003, 09:28 AM

Wow, I have none of those stereo types in my comic shop at all. In fact I was surprised to see people perpetuating that stereo type here of all places. :eek:

The shop I go to has a 3 or 4 girls working there. (All of which are extremely cute but in their teens so alas no real chance for Yoda anymore. :( ) The guys that work there aren't overweight at all and the people I see shop there are no different than what you would see shopping in a independent video store. I've never, not once, in 4 years of going to this shop seen anyone I would describe as a stereo typical comic reader.

Len N. Wallace

12-30-2003, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by masteryoda
Wow, I have none of those stereo types in my comic shop at all. In fact I was surprised to see people perpetuating that stereo type here of all places. :eek:

The shop I go to has a 3 or 4 girls working there. (All of which are extremely cute but in their teens so alas no real chance for Yoda anymore. :( ) The guys that work there aren't overweight at all and the people I see shop there are no different than what you would see shopping in a independent video store. I've never, not once, in 4 years of going to this shop seen anyone I would describe as a stereo typical comic reader. I've seen a couple, but not as many as you'd expect. Yu Gi Oh! nerds, however... *shudders*

Orko Is King

12-30-2003, 11:26 PM

12-31-2003, 12:19 AM

Join the club... :(

masteryoda

01-01-2004, 03:54 PM

Yeah I guess I lucked out with that shop. I don't know why more shops don't hire girls to work there. If I was running one I'd make sure to and not for the reasons you'd think. (Well not entirly for that reason) ;) If you want girls to be comfortable to come into your store and buy manga or whatever comics they're into then having overwieght, lonley, geeky fanboys running the shop is not the way to go about it. You'll just scare them off. :(

Lt. Figgnuts

01-02-2004, 12:13 PM

:D My comic shop just recently hired a girl. As far as I know, she's the only one there, and she's rather attractive. I wonder how much **** she must get from the other guys that work there--most of them are stereotypical nerds.

masteryoda

01-02-2004, 02:22 PM

heh She probably get's alot. Here's what I'm thinking though. THe girls you see in comic shops probably aren't as hot as they really are. It's because we see them in a comic shop that they appear to be really hot. ;) :(

Themanofbat

01-02-2004, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by masteryoda
Yeah I guess I lucked out with that shop. I don't know why more shops don't hire girls to work there. If I was running one I'd make sure to and not for the reasons you'd think. (Well not entirly for that reason) ;) If you want girls to be comfortable to come into your store and buy manga or whatever comics they're into then having overwieght, lonley, geeky fanboys running the shop is not the way to go about it. You'll just scare them off. :(

When I was managing a comic shop in the mid-90's, I hired a girl to help me out with some of the work, and she did attract more "guys" into the store. Unfortunately, she didn't know much about comics (she was one of those art-phag Vertigo types.... being alternative for the sake of being alternative)... but did she ever know how to set up some cool Magic decks. She even set up a few after hours Magic tournaments at my store.

masteryoda

01-02-2004, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Themanofbat
When I was managing a comic shop in the mid-90's, I hired a girl to help me out with some of the work, and she did attract more "guys" into the store. Unfortunately, she didn't know much about comics (she was one of those art-phag Vertigo types.... being alternative for the sake of being alternative)... but did she ever know how to set up some cool Magic decks. She even set up a few after hours Magic tournaments at my store.

Is that the kind of after hours magic tourney where she has to magically get the poison out of your snake? ;) :p :D

masteryoda

01-02-2004, 03:56 PM

using only her mouth. :eek:

Themanofbat

01-02-2004, 05:18 PM

That's for me to know..... :eek: :eek: :eek:

;)

Dan Ketch

01-28-2004, 08:29 PM

Well, I'm not ashamed of my comic addiction and I'm definetly not the stereotypical comic fan. I run a hip hop record label and have 3 albums under my belt and have been on several albums from other artists across the nation. Folks dont know I'm a comic nerd until they come to my home and see all the Spider-Man stuff and toys, they usually think it's pretty interesting. Check out my website and music here. www.nightshield.net.

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Dwarf lord

02-01-2004, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by incurock31
Comics aren't just for kids, and anyone who thinks so is an idiot. I dare them to read Preacher or Transmetropolitan and say that afterwards.

or Punisher, or even Daredevil at times. There is this one sixth grader who thinks the X-Men are for kids. I don't think he has met Stacy X who can give people Orgasims

Solid Snake

02-01-2004, 02:06 AM

Well, I feel like i dont belong in a comic shop either. I mean im not handsoome or that handsome or anything but still there are these guys with their sweatshirts with skulls on them etc and are talking about things you guys talk about, but it sounds so strange and kinda sad seeing them talk and nitpick like that.

I justt hink theirs a time for everything. I dont start talking about SPider-man or anything unless the other person asks. I tell people i read comic if a topic comes up but I never talk about them when I dont need to. I wear my Spiderman shirts at school ( the joe quesada USM wall crawl one) and thats about the only spiderman shirt i have.

I dont collect toys or anything, which even I think is a little strange, lets face it toys are for kids. There are no naked or or toys cussing at you when you press their hand.

Solid Snake

02-01-2004, 02:10 AM

Originally posted by DBM

IMO there is a reason for the stereotypes. When I go into my local comic store every Wed. I'm surrounded by the obese, bearded, socially inept, comic geeks in their stained, black Vampirella or Lady Death t-shirts. I feel totally out of place being a clean-cut professional just getting off work and going to the store in my khakis and a polo shirt.

But I don't really care because we all share the love of spiderman

I agree 100%. I dont know why most comics fans are metal punks or whatever. And I see that whenever I go into my comic shop. Its not stereotype, its fact.

Lt. Figgnuts

02-01-2004, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by Solid Snake
I dont collect toys or anything, which even I think is a little strange, lets face it toys are for kids. There are no naked or or toys cussing at you when you press their hand.

That's not necassarily true. Yeah, a lot of them are aimed at toys, but a lot of FIGURES (not toys :)) aren't really for playing with, they're for display (have you seen the Matrix figures, or anything by MacFarlane Toys?). I have a couple of figures from MacFarlane's Matrix Series 2, and they barely have any points of articulation, they're purely for show.

Figures aren't totally for kids anymore. They're collectables.

Funny how some people feel the same way about comics as you do about figures/toys.

Blayton

02-23-2004, 07:18 PM

Who cares what people think

eris

02-23-2004, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by masteryoda
The shop I go to has a 3 or 4 girls working there. (All of which are extremely cute but in their teens so alas no real chance for Yoda anymore. :( ) The guys that work there aren't overweight at all and the people I see shop there are no different than what you would see shopping in a independent video store. I've never, not once, in 4 years of going to this shop seen anyone I would describe as a stereo typical comic reader.

*sigh* i tried to be a snail girl...but i have no retail experiance so no go....:(

Originally posted by USM Whore
That's not necassarily true. Yeah, a lot of them are aimed at toys, but a lot of FIGURES (not toys :)) aren't really for playing with, they're for display (have you seen the Matrix figures, or anything by MacFarlane Toys?). I have a couple of figures from MacFarlane's Matrix Series 2, and they barely have any points of articulation, they're purely for show.

Figures aren't totally for kids anymore. They're collectables.

Funny how some people feel the same way about comics as you do about figures/toys.

& least you forget...

http://www.drtonguestoys.com/store/products/ActionFiguresMisc/4457625559.jpg

Dwarf lord

02-23-2004, 09:01 PM

Have them read Watchmen, Vertigo, Sandman, Punisher, Elektra, and Alias and have them get back to you.

Pariah

02-24-2004, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by FlameHead

and the funny thing is, the majority of comic collecters aren't kids.

I wonder if that's true, or a myth. Sure, as an adult I see plenty of other adults buying comics in my local comic shop and not many kids (although I just may not be there when kids are there). But, there is a lot of research commited to marketing and the ads in comics suggest to me that more kids than adults are reading them--they're certainly NOT aimed at me (a 31-year old male).

If it were true that the majority of comic collectors aren't kids, I would expect to see advertisments that more accurately reflect a demographic of "non-kids." Take a look at a maxim magazine (which targets 18-31-year old males) and you'll see a stark contrast in advertising.

eris

02-24-2004, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by Pariah
I wonder if that's true, or a myth. Sure, as an adult I see plenty of other adults buying comics in my local comic shop and not many kids (although I just may not be there when kids are there). But, there is a lot of research commited to marketing and the ads in comics suggest to me that more kids than adults are reading them--they're certainly NOT aimed at me (a 31-year old male).

If it were true that the majority of comic collectors aren't kids, I would expect to see advertisments that more accurately reflect a demographic of "non-kids." Take a look at a maxim magazine (which targets 18-31-year old males) and you'll see a stark contrast in advertising.

well you dont want to limit your audience...

but when you look at the max lines...they are mostly vid game ads....i guess maybe it isnt big enough market for ad comps to really take notice

FlameHead

03-01-2004, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by Pariah
I wonder if that's true, or a myth. Sure, as an adult I see plenty of other adults buying comics in my local comic shop and not many kids (although I just may not be there when kids are there). But, there is a lot of research commited to marketing and the ads in comics suggest to me that more kids than adults are reading them--they're certainly NOT aimed at me (a 31-year old male).

Who they target and who actually read them is two totally different things. They could be tageting the young age group to get more kids into the hype.... but the fact still may remain that adults are the ones eating up the mags.

KingOfDreams

03-04-2007, 06:08 PM