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11-20-2003, 07:34 PM

Nothing Magneto could do could stop Superman. Superman would take this one without to much trouble, his variety of powers would counter-act anything Magneto could do to him. Supes would then get in close and with a love tap of a hit to the stomach knock him down and out. And if you bring up Magneto ripping the iron out supermasn blood, I...will...kill...you.

Kmack

11-20-2003, 07:35 PM

Please no DC zombies.:)
This is kinda hard but I think its a toss up. A lot of people under estimate Magneto. :(

Rogue_anna

11-21-2003, 04:18 AM

superman of steel

Magneto29

11-21-2003, 06:01 AM

Originally posted by guyverjay
How about.....NO
How about....Yes ! :p

StoneDeaf

11-21-2003, 10:09 AM

superman would bop his ass. there's like a million and one ways he could do it. okay, not that many but still ****loads. And lots of them fatal!

Jeanne

11-21-2003, 12:34 PM

It all depends if Magneto had Kryptonite. Magneto could hit him with all sorts of metallic objects, but Superman is too strong. The big question is - could Superman survive having the iron removed from his blood?

Guyverjay

11-21-2003, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by Jeanne
It all depends if Magneto had Kryptonite. Magneto could hit him with all sorts of metallic objects, but Superman is too strong. The big question is - could Superman survive having the iron removed from his blood?

Because we all KNOW that superman has iron in his Kryptonian blood:rolleyes:

BTW Maggy has NO kryptonite. The only one who does is Batman:o

Guyverjay

11-21-2003, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by Kmackintrush
Please no DC zombies.:)
This is kinda hard but I think its a toss up. A lot of people under estimate Magneto. :(

Silence with the name calling bub:mad:

Morg

11-21-2003, 12:48 PM

Superman would win.

Human Torch II

11-21-2003, 02:00 PM

magneto might hold his own for awhile...but in the end, he just cant beat superman!

11-21-2003, 03:43 PM

Why does everyone think that Kryptonite is something that can be found in your local friggin home depo? Its EXTREMELY rare, and even for people like Batman, it takes years and years to replicate some, and its extremely expensive. And there isnt any in the MU universe anyway, so theres a 0% chance of Magneto even getting Krytonite dust. Magneto would die from exertion far sooner then he could even begin to seriously hurt Superman.

Human Torch II

11-21-2003, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by Mr. X
Why does everyone think that Kryptonite is something that can be found in your local friggin home depo? Its EXTREMELY rare, and even for people like Batman, it takes years and years to replicate some, and its extremely expensive. And there isnt any in the MU universe anyway, so theres a 0% chance of Magneto even getting Krytonite dust. Magneto would die from exertion far sooner then he could even begin to seriously hurt Superman. nice explanation!

MAGNETOROCKS

11-23-2003, 02:20 AM

Well...

A friend of mine recently read an issue of Scientific American which had stated that magnetism can be used to shut down the brain and throw the central nervous system into disarray. Magneto's powers are near limitless, and I would venture to say that the winner would depend on who the writer of the story was. Supes and Mags are both Insanely powerful and writers could provide interesting situations for either to win. I would guess that if Mags depended solely on brute strength (hurling buildings at Supes), he would probably lose, but if he decided to employ the science of his powers and go after Supes body functions, then he would probably win. Obviously, I'm a Magneto fan, but I am still capable of some objectivity. All in all, this fight is a coin toss that would have to be chalked up to the writer.

MR

Human Torch II

11-23-2003, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by MAGNETOROCKS
Well...

A friend of mine recently read an issue of Scientific American which had stated that magnetism can be used to shut down the brain and throw the central nervous system into disarray. Magneto's powers are near limitless, and I would venture to say that the winner would depend on who the writer of the story was. Supes and Mags are both Insanely powerful and writers could provide interesting situations for either to win. I would guess that if Mags depended solely on brute strength (hurling buildings at Supes), he would probably lose, but if he decided to employ the science of his powers and go after Supes body functions, then he would probably win. Obviously, I'm a Magneto fan, but I am still capable of some objectivity. All in all, this fight is a coin toss that would have to be chalked up to the writer.

MR interesting...what is the date and title of this article...i want to read it!

MAGNETOROCKS

11-23-2003, 02:07 PM

I don't know. I didn't ask. It came up during a casual conversation. I'll see if I can find out.

-MR

Human Torch II

11-23-2003, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by MAGNETOROCKS
I don't know. I didn't ask. It came up during a casual conversation. I'll see if I can find out.

-MR ok..let me know...

phoephoe

11-24-2003, 02:20 AM

Unless Magnito lines all of his metal with Kryptonite he isn't winning. Metal bounces off of the "MAN OF STEEL"

Jeanne

11-24-2003, 06:36 AM

Guyverjay

11-24-2003, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by MAGNETOROCKS
Well...

A friend of mine recently read an issue of Scientific American which had stated that magnetism can be used to shut down the brain and throw the central nervous system into disarray. Magneto's powers are near limitless, and I would venture to say that the winner would depend on who the writer of the story was. Supes and Mags are both Insanely powerful and writers could provide interesting situations for either to win. I would guess that if Mags depended solely on brute strength (hurling buildings at Supes), he would probably lose, but if he decided to employ the science of his powers and go after Supes body functions, then he would probably win. Obviously, I'm a Magneto fan, but I am still capable of some objectivity. All in all, this fight is a coin toss that would have to be chalked up to the writer.

MR

Again you're assuming that a kryptonian body functions just like a human one. It doesn't, therefore your science holds no water. Also maggys powers are NOT limitless at all. Considering that supes can move at almost 186,000 miles per second I don't see how maggy would even be able to get a lock on his body let alone be able to effect his alien physiology

Spider-Phoenix

11-24-2003, 06:34 PM

well if Magneto could technically shut down Supes brain, i doubt he would have to worry about his super speed....he could just put up a magnetic bubble around himself which if Supes entered would shut down the old brain...but again theres no idea if it would work on Kryptonians....and lets say it will Supes could fly in and at super speed and bash into Magneto (protected by his bubble) killing them both...

but yeah this is all crazy talk....I give the fight to Superman, but I wouldnt say its exactly Magneto would be a pushover

Endeavor

11-24-2003, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by Mr. X
Nothing Magneto could do could stop Superman. Superman would take this one without to much trouble, his variety of powers would counter-act anything Magneto could do to him. Supes would then get in close and with a love tap of a hit to the stomach knock him down and out. And if you bring up Magneto ripping the iron out supermasn blood, I...will...kill...you.

You obviously don't know much about Magneto if you say that.

Endeavor

11-24-2003, 07:03 PM

Last I checked Superman has the basic physiology of a humanoid. Meaning he has a brain, heart, etc.
This means he can be badly hurt and yes even killed by a super being whose power allows him or her to create force bubbles or force fields at a certain range... Meaning a telekinetic or anybody who can affect matter without the need to be touching it. Magneto falls under this category... and he would certainly have no moral ideology preventing him from creating an electromagnetic force bubble inside an opponen'ts brain, and then expanding it to crush all the grey matter.

I love Supes N all, but as with most DC characters, they make him out to be completely indestructible. When he really isn't and should not have to be. That is the reason why his power levels can be so frustratingly different from story to story.
Here you have a person who is supposed to be able to move a whole planet yet in a later story he has difficulty in stoping a runaway train? It doesn't compute.

11-24-2003, 07:11 PM

Sounds like your even more ignorant to the character of Superman. And I know enough about Magneto. Superman is literally close to a cosmic character, in terms of strength and speed, not to mention determination and will. He's taken on countless god's and supreme beings, brilliant cunning tacticans, and thousands of other people and creatures far beyond Magneto in every way. I swear, X Men fans are the worst when it comes to vs. debates. But hey, these are the people that for some reason come to the conclusion that the Flash would be beaten by Wolverine, and Magneto can take on anyone by ripping the iron out of there blood.

11-24-2003, 07:17 PM

And you know what, a lot of character's can do things that would kill almost anything instantly. Superman could travel near light speed and punch you, and before you coulf even think, it would be over. The Flash could hit you thousands of times a second and kill almost anyone - or vibrate his hand through any number of your organs. And dont even get me started on Martian Manhunter. Think about this in terms of a vs. match and how it would really be written in a comic, not straight out "he's going to kill him like this instantly". Yeah, Magneto would throw a lot of stuff at Superman, and knock him down, keep him moving, create a force field, Superman would hit it, knock Magneto down, and so on. But in the end Superman would take it. If you want to state who would really win in a fight using things they would never do, lets just say that Superman would put down Magneto before he could even begin to think what to do. At least I thought of it in terms of Magneto giving Superman some fight...

Endeavor

11-24-2003, 07:18 PM

Did I sound like one of those people to you? I happen to know a lot of both characters as a matter of fact.
Are you going to deny that what I said is true? Isn't it a fact that Super has beaten down gods only to later on have a hard day of stopping an accident? Because if you're going to blindly ignore the fact that the character has many inconsistencies when it comes to his power levels then I might as well not waste my time on another reply.

Human Torch II

11-24-2003, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Mr. X
Sounds like your even more ignorant to the character of Superman. And I know enough about Magneto. Superman is literally close to a cosmic character, in terms of strength and speed, not to mention determination and will. He's taken on countless god's and supreme beings, brilliant cunning tacticans, and thousands of other people and creatures far beyond Magneto in every way. I swear, X Men fans are the worst when it comes to vs. debates. But hey, these are the people that for some reason come to the conclusion that the Flash would be beaten by Wolverine, and Magneto can take on anyone by ripping the iron out of there blood. hahaha:joker:...wolverine beating flash...do people actually believe that?...hahaha! :bomb: :hyper:

Endeavor

11-24-2003, 07:23 PM

"At least I thought of it in terms of Magneto giving Superman some fight..."

Actually no you didn't. I replied to your first post because you said that nothing Magneto could do would stop Supes. You made it sound as if Magneto was a pushover that Superman could overpower without a second thought and that is simply not the case. You say Supes could fly at him and hit him, I say Magneto could pretect himself with a forcefield...
You said Supes could beat anything Mags would throw at him because his power just work that way. Well then, tell me exactly how Superman could stop Magneto from creating a force bubble inside his head and making it expand

Endeavor

11-24-2003, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by Human Torch II
hahaha:joker:...wolverine beating flash...do people actually believe that?...hahaha! :bomb: :hyper:

I don't.

Wolverine is one of the most overated characters out there, right alongside Batman

11-24-2003, 07:58 PM

Listen man, as I said before. Almost all character can do something to instantly bring death to just about anyone. And my first post, yeah, I didnt give Magneto much chance. I thought about it a little and he would give him some fight, he just wouldent win. No big deal okay?

11-24-2003, 08:05 PM

And Batman is an extremly well written character, ever read Long Halloween, Year One, DKR, DKSA? One of the greatest super hero figures of all time, with some of the best story's as well. Wolverine on the other hand, is a product of hype, most of the time anyway. How many times have you seen an indepth, meaningful story with Wolverine in it? There few and far between. I just get sick of seeing Wolverine EVERYWHERE. He's on every Ultimante X Men cover, there's always something going on with him, whether it's a one shot or a mini-series, or a new series or whatever, not to mention how people are always struggling to make him look good.

Whether he's ripping Iron Man apart in Ultimante X Men or doing something stupid with the Punisher like that gay thing. Pure retaleation to The Punisher beating him a while back. What ever happened to the good Wolverine/Punisher cross evers? I dont hate the character, I just used to like him a lot more when he wasnt so over used. And yeah, there are some really, really stupid Batman fans who argue all day that he can beat anyone with "prep" time. I dont see it that way. I just see him as a great, well written character.

Endeavor

11-24-2003, 08:07 PM

It wasn't a big deal, until you went off and called me ignorant without anything to back it up and then went off on all X-Men fans...

For what it's worth the top reason why I think Magneto would win is because of character.
Kal El is a moral character. He would not go into a fight with a mindset to go for the kill.
Magneto does and would. He will go to any lenghts to win. He has no moral restrictions that would prevent him from using lethal force.
Since Superman doesn't share that mindset that would open up the opportunity for Magneto to do either what I said or something else.

Endeavor

11-24-2003, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by Mr. X
And Batman is an extremly well written character, ever read Long Halloween, Year One, DKR, DKSA? One of the greatest super hero figures of all time, with some of the best story's as well. Wolverine on the other hand, is a product of hype, most of the time anyway. How many times have you seen an indepth, meaningful story with Wolverine in it? There few and far between. I just get sick of seeing Wolverine EVERYWHERE. He's on every Ultimante X Men cover, there's always something going on with him, whether it's a one shot or a mini-series, or a new series or whatever, not to mention how people are always struggling to make him look good.

Whether he's ripping Iron Man apart in Ultimante X Men or doing something stupid with the Punisher like that gay thing. Pure retaleation to The Punisher beating him a while back. What ever happened to the good Wolverine/Punisher cross evers? I dont hate the character, I just used to like him a lot more when he wasnt so over used. And yeah, there are some really, really stupid Batman fans who argue all day that he can beat anyone with "prep" time. I dont see it that way. I just see him as a great, well written character.

I didn't say that Batman was not a well-written character. What I said is that he is overated.
Like you said about some fans who say he could beat anyone with enough prep time.
I'm also sick of seeing Wolverine everywhere. He is not the only interesting X-men character and I wish the limelight would be shared with others who are more deserving.

I do not however agree with what you said about his stories. Like Batman he is also a well developed character and yes there are some very good and deep Wolverine stories.

Word to the wise, this is not the place to bash Marvel characters (specially X-Men characters) in order to make DC characters look better.

11-24-2003, 08:25 PM

Yeah, I know you didnt say Batman wasnt a good character, I was just saying. And I respect you opinion and all, and im sorry for calling you ignorant. Rough day, with enough stupid things going on that I could write a book on it...

Human Torch II

11-24-2003, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by guyverjay
Again you're assuming that a kryptonian body functions just like a human one. It doesn't, therefore your science holds no water. Also maggys powers are NOT limitless at all. Considering that supes can move at almost 186,000 miles per second I don't see how maggy would even be able to get a lock on his body let alone be able to effect his alien physiology i believe this is one reason why superman take this one!...

11-24-2003, 11:06 PM

You also have to take into consideration, how many other people in the past have been completely ruthless and tryed to kill Superman? Going against Magneto wouldent be anything new for him, he's been going against ruthless men and beasts for years. Lex Luthor, Brainiac, Mr. Mzyt what ever the hell his name is, Doomsday, Parasite, Darkseid, and so on. And who knows, Magneto's power's might not even be able to penetrate the force field that surrounds Superman's body? Im assuming his is a lot more powerful then anything Magneto could create, as he is invurnable, and, well, extremly tough.

MAGNETOROCKS

11-24-2003, 11:20 PM

Oh yeah..It is an EMPIRICAL fact that "my" science (as if its exclusively mine) holds no water. Well, people can banter on about who would win this one all they want, but these characters are produced by two different comic companies with different concepts governing the heros and situations in their respective universes. Rather "my science" has an effect on Kryptonian physiology remains to be seen. Yes, Magneto required the iron injection IN THE FILM, but anyone who has seen the well-produced X-films should be able to tell that Magneto is much weaker than his comic counterpart. Director Bryan Singer has made it clear that this was intentional. I still say it will come down to writer discretion in the Superman/Magneto battle.

MR

Guyverjay

11-25-2003, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by MAGNETOROCKS
Oh yeah..It is an EMPIRICAL fact that "my" science (as if its exclusively mine) holds no water.

Figure of speech obviously:rolleyes: and yes it does hold NO water. You can't apply the same science to a being whose physiology you don't understand. You can't assume his brain works like a human one. Tha fact that his brain can process information 1000's times quicker and (if its like the rest of his body) processes solar radiation, shows that its very different.

Guyverjay

11-25-2003, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by Endeavor
"At least I thought of it in terms of Magneto giving Superman some fight..."

Actually no you didn't. I replied to your first post because you said that nothing Magneto could do would stop Supes. You made it sound as if Magneto was a pushover that Superman could overpower without a second thought and that is simply not the case. You say Supes could fly at him and hit him, I say Magneto could pretect himself with a forcefield...
You said Supes could beat anything Mags would throw at him because his power just work that way. Well then, tell me exactly how Superman could stop Magneto from creating a force bubble inside his head and making it expand

You do know that supes in JLA #89 (I think) held open a BLACK HOLE with his bare hands? So I don't think any forcefield maggy could make could keep out superman.

Endeavor

11-25-2003, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by guyverjay
You do know that supes in JLA #89 (I think) held open a BLACK HOLE with his bare hands? So I don't think any forcefield maggy could make could keep out superman.

Oh yeah.. the black hole... right.

Yet, if you look at Adventures of Superman #573 you'll see how two human women grab Superman and throw him...
Gee, I wonder if these 2 women could have also held a black hole open with their bare hands!!

See what I mean about the inconsistencies?

11-25-2003, 04:16 PM

I somehow doubt they were 2 normal woman...And Superman's strength can differ, to make things interesting mainly. You know, an evil genuis creates a power decreasing virus, or he somehow isnt getting enough sun to keep himself powered up for one reason or another. Having the same strength Superman all the time would get kind of boring, and thats why his strengths differ and he does have severe weaknesses, like Kryptonite. Take into consideration, it doesent matter if in one comic Superman's powers were down for whatever reason, in a vs. match its the normal Magneto of now vs the normal Superman of now, no power variables coming into play. At least there not supposed to, unless you want to make it a cheap contest... :o

Endeavor

11-25-2003, 04:39 PM

They were Luthor's bodyguards, on of them was Mercy

superjoint

12-01-2003, 09:27 AM

superman! no doubt!!

RPG swordmaster

12-06-2003, 01:18 PM

Yeah Superman could destroy Magneto hands down. (less he had some Kryptonite- haha)

DraconicLord

05-25-2006, 02:16 AM

Firstly, I hate when people say that "Movie Magneto needed iron pumped into the blood, blah blah blah". The movie is certainly not 'canon'. Rogue was given a name, had a relationship with Iceman and Storm is one of Xaviers first students? Yeah...

Secondly, I hate how people will ***** about how Overused Wolverine is (I don't disagree btw) but praise Superman and Batman as-if they aren't exposed just as much as Logan - If not more-so in some cases.

Thirdly, Magneto certainly has a fighting chance in this; He could disable Superman and probably take him down. His fields are virtually indestructable, if he were to create an EMP it would send Superman into massive convulsions/siezures, he can enhance his durability and strength with his controll over Magnetism. His Magnetism powers when combined with his latent Telepathy has allowed him to do some pretty ****ed up things in the past. Not saying Magneto would win without any contest, Superman probably would win, no matter who was writing this - Why? Because he's Superman, he's the origin of it all. He can't loose unless it's to Batman and thats just Symbolical.

Point is, Magneto COULD win; But so could Supes.
Oh an the only difference between Kryptonian physiology and Human is that the Kryptonian DNA is a four stranded helix while ours is just a double - Thats about it. There is still iron and everything else; Kryptonian's are still carbon based and all that. Not only has this been stated in Comics but if Superman's DNA didn't contain Iron and everything else that we contain then why/how would Human DNA be used to conjoin/stabalize with it for the process of cloning? Superboy ala Luther.

Silicon Surfer

05-30-2006, 03:17 AM

I have posted elsewhere about Magnetos magnetic bottle technique being effective on Phoenix and how it should be effective on Supes. Mags could also extract particulate iron from the environment and create a plug in Supes windpipe to prevent him from breathing. Supes force field would protect the plug the same way it protects Supes since it would be inside the field. As for defense ,when Mags went to the moon to visit Luna for the first time he used his powers to make himself invisible and undetectable even to the advanced science of the Inhumans. This tactic should be just as useful against Superman. the arguements in favor of Superman are also valid ones so it would come down to who takes the first really serious shot,the hero or the villan.

Sentinel X

06-28-2006, 11:48 PM

Umm...supes would rip Magneto apart...seriously :o

micky-fox

06-29-2006, 02:37 AM

Magneto has my vote. Many people don't fully understand his powers...

DareDemon

07-02-2006, 01:12 AM

Superman would win I think. Magneto could not rip the iron out of him. Then is no elemental iron (Fe) in a person's blood. Only the nutrient. And the nutrient doesn't have magnetic force to it.

However, Magneto could effect the electricity in Superman's body, and effect the gravitrons Superman may use to fly (and lift huge objects instead of pushing through them).

But I still think Superman would win cause he could move so fast Magneto wouldn't even see him coming.