Robin - worst partner ever?

[Kevin Roegele]

Why on earth does Batman keep Robin as a partner? Look at the trouble he gets into....

Minutes after joining Batman, he gets the Batboat destroyed, gets captured by aqua-thugs, gets captured by Two-Face having beaten him, and needs rescuing again. On the plus side, he does help untie Chase.

In B&R, he disobeys orders (although he is right to), rushes off ahead and gets frozen by Freeze, argues with Batman about trust, argues about Ivy, stands around gazing at when he should be chasing baddies, disobeys orders again when chasing Freeze, gets his ass kicked by Bane, argues with Batman again, gets thrown in some goo, argues again, and almost rushes into Ivy's trap. Then he gets trapped in some water plants, needs a girl to help him with Freeze's computers, falls off the Observatory, makes a hash if saving Batgirl, needs Batgirl to save him, and can't defeat Bane without Batgirl's help.

He's a liability, not a superhero!

[BeserkerHilf]

mind you that it was a shuchumaker film, so not much will make sense

[Everyman]

That was a major problem with the arrival of Robin in the franchise: he was basically useless. That,s what happen when you make him a spoiled brat, instead of a young kid forced to grow because of a tragedy.

[ab38416]

I hate defending Schumacher's Batman films but to be fair, Robin could have ignored Batman's advice and he could have easily killed Two-Face. But he chose to do the opposite and that's why he got caught. And he wasn't really useless in BF. Robin is the reason why Batman acheives salvation at the end of the film. He was able to prevent him from making the same mistakes he made. This completes the whole redemption theme.

[Kevin Roegele]

I hate defending Schumacher's Batman films but to be fair, Robin could have ignored Batman's advice and he could have easily killed Two-Face. But he chose to do the opposite and that's why he got caught. And he wasn't really useless in BF. Robin is the reason why Batman acheives salvation at the end of the film. He was able to prevent him from making the same mistakes he made. This completes the whole redemption theme.

Okay, in a thematic, spiritual way, Robin helped Batman. But that's no help to the dark knight when he has to rescue his partner every five minutes.

"Robin, I came here to rescue Chase, and now I have to rescue you as well?! You're just lucky this sets up a symbolic dilemma for me to chose whether I'm truly Batman or Bruce Wayne."

"And you can catch my hand in the same way my brother did in the circus, Batman, indicating I have found a new family and they're not going to let me fall."

[El Payaso]

Why on earth does Batman keep Robin as a partner?

Nipples.

[Bathead]

Reminds me of the spoof they did on Tiny Toons. Bat-duck and his partner Hamton, the Boy Hostage, whose symbol on his tunic was a bullseye.:yay:

[dude love]

Okay, in a thematic, spiritual way, Robin helped Batman. But that's no help to the dark knight when he has to rescue his partner every five minutes.

Even then he didn't help. Using Schumacers thematics Batman was making the choice of whether he was straight or gay. Turns out he's Bi....

[Apollo]

i never thought robin made a good partner, its like having spider-man and daredevil partners

[kit1982]

Reminds me of the spoof they did on Tiny Toons. Bat-duck and his partner Hamton, the Boy Hostage, whose symbol on his tunic was a bullseye.:yay:

Oh god thats was brilliant! i think it might be floating around on Youtube

edit
http://youtube.com/watch?v=I5ku-OXodcw part 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QPjXpoae1JI part 2

absolutely brilliant!

[Mad Bull]

Reminds me of the spoof they did on Tiny Toons. Bat-duck and his partner Hamton, the Boy Hostage, whose symbol on his tunic was a bullseye.:yay:
Lol, I remember that! Hamton's side-kick name was even Decoy!

[inspiritonly]

Hey, somebody has to get in trouble. Batman didn't have Lois and Jimmy to to be in a state of perpetual jeopardy.

[El Payaso]

But is it too much to ask to have a girl for those issues?

[CConn]

Well, there was always Batwoman and Batgirl.

Of course...Batman was usually trying to run away from them...

:(

[BatScot]

Why on earth does Batman keep Robin as a partner?The cold lonely nights?

* Answer valid in Schumacher universe only.

[BatScot]

But is it too much to ask to have a girl for those issues?^ Apparently, at least in Schumacher-verse.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I always hated how they switched the relationship from the Father-Son of the books, to a Brother-Brother thing.

[mister Lennon]

I have never been a robin fan, if you ask me. I know that he is important in the batman mithos, but he never get in the batman story. for me, batman is a man alone with his internal nighmares fighting the villains, to get a tennagger as his partner to fight criminal phsichos was a little nonsense for me.

[patrickbateman]

ok now how did he the name Robin ? could some one let me in on that

[mister Lennon]

Some theories. Someones says that he got the name because the bird robin, others because robin hood. Maybe both of them as true.

[ab38416]

I always hated how they switched the relationship from the Father-Son of the books, to a Brother-Brother thing.

"That relationship was altered somewhat by the recasting of Batman. Val really changed the dynamics. It became more a big brother-little brother relationship. Originally, it was written a little bit younger, and with Michael Keaton it would have been more a father-son type thing." - Chris O'DonnellMichaOriginally, it was written a little bit younger, and have been more a father-son type of thing.''

[Kevin Roegele]

"That relationship was altered somewhat by the recasting of Batman. Val really changed the dynamics. It became more a big brother-little brother relationship. Originally, it was written a little bit younger, and with Michael Keaton it would have been more a father-son type thing." - Chris O'DonnellMichaOriginally, it was written a little bit younger, and have been more a father-son type of thing.''

Would O'Donnell have been taller than Keaton? Because that simply would not do.

[ab38416]

Sources say that Keaton is 5'10 and O'Donnell is 5'9.

[Kevin Roegele]

Sources say that Keaton is 5'10 and O'Donnell is 5'9.

Weird. I can't imagine Keaton being taller.

[AirKnight82]

ok now how did he the name Robin ? could some one let me in on that

I thought his mom gave it to him cause he was a young flying graysen and she was like a robin when he was in the air.?.

IDK I got t ofind my stash when robin began in the Bat comics.:ninja:

[mister Lennon]

Michael Keaton isnt 5´10, 5´8 as much. I dont know where come from that 5´10 bull****.

[Kevin Roegele]

I thought his mom gave it to him cause he was a young flying graysen and she was like a robin when he was in the air.?.

That's certainly the one they use in the movie - and it feels awkward and unconvincing. Robin is just not an appropriate name for an adult superhero, lol.

[Mad Bull]

That's certainly the one they use in the movie - and it feels awkward and unconvincing. Robin is just not an appropriate name for an adult superhero, lol.
Lol, it really isn't.

[AirKnight82]

I know...for a kid sure! I couldn't find it mentioned in the books, hmm and interesting question on how he got the name! If I find it I'll let everyone know, or whoever posts it thanks ahead.

[inspiritonly]

Some theories. Someones says that he got the name because the bird robin, others because robin hood. Maybe both of them as true.
Most of us old folks remember that the origin of the name Robin from the comics was that Robin hood was a personal hero of Dick Grayson. He chose that as his crime fighting name. It also explains the main design of his costume. the shoes and the tunic which incorporates a lacing. The colors are also representative (though many assume that his tunic is red for a robin redbreast). In the movies, Schumacher decided to change it to the bird.