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Thread Manager 03-12-2013 11:43 AM

Shailene Woodley COULD BE Mary Jane Watson.....in TASM3
 
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Thread Manager 03-12-2013 11:43 AM

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Johnny 03-12-2013 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by spideyboy_1111 (Post 25374507)
i get the vibe they're going a bit of the Erica Durance Lois Lane from Smallville feel with MJ. Which isn't actually a bad thing. considering Lois reminded me alot of MJ

They've always seemed kind of similar to me as well. I hope Gwen and MJ's dynamic with Peter is just as different as Lana and Lois's dynamic was with Clark. There was a perfect line in one of the episodes where they compared Lana to "sweet vanilla" and Lois to "wild cherry". I'd love to see a similar difference between Gwen and MJ here too. Gwen is more similar to Peter's calm and tender side, while MJ is similar to his rebellious and carefree side.

Vid Electricz 03-12-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny (Post 25374559)
They've always seemed kind of similar to me as well. I hope Gwen and MJ's dynamic with Peter is just as different as Lana and Lois's dynamic was with Clark. There was a perfect line in one of the episodes where they compared Lana to "sweet vanilla" and Lois to "wild cherry". I'd love to see a similar difference between Gwen and MJ here too. Gwen is more similar to Peter's calm and tender side, while MJ is similar to his rebellious and carefree side.


I am sure that's what they're going for. Hopefully though, it's more nuanced than that. Joss Whedon would be so great for this- though I'm sure Webb will do just fine. I think you're on the right track though.

Carlo Comicus 03-12-2013 12:30 PM

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There are some pics of Shailene in New York on Just Jared.

DigificWriter 03-12-2013 02:24 PM

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It is starting to seem as if they're reversing the Ultimate Universe dynamic with the two girls, which I personally find kind of neat. The USM universe has always been one of my favorite versions of the Spidey mythos, though, so I'm going to be kind of predisposed to getting excited any time we get elements of that universe incorporated into other iterations of said mythos.

Nicko-Ray 03-12-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DigificWriter (Post 25375443)
It is starting to seem as if they're reversing the Ultimate Universe dynamic with the two girls, which I personally find kind of neat. The USM universe has always been one of my favorite versions of the Spidey mythos, though, so I'm going to be kind of predisposed to getting excited any time we get elements of that universe incorporated into other iterations of said mythos.

Reversing the Ultimate universe as in this series' Gwen Stacy is basically Ultimate MJ, and this MJ will be Ultimate Gwen?

There's a huge part of me that still wants to see Peter and MJ together in this series. Not sure if we'll get enough movies though for that to happen.

Johnny 03-12-2013 04:10 PM

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Well I think it's obvious they won't just bring MJ to keep her as a friend and confidant. Initially, yes. But not always. The question is are they going to showcase the transition to her properly or it would seem forced to the point where general audience would think Pete went after her because his old girlfriend died. Bringing MJ in is tricky in the first place because everyone knows who she is. Someone mentioned Smallville before, which was about a young Clark Kent. His affection throughout most of the show's tenure was directed towards Lana Lang. Lois Lane was introduced in Season 4. Yet it wasn't until Season 8 where she and Clark started having romantic feelings. The point is, that show had ten seasons, the Spidey films are 160 minutes a piece tops. It's not only tricky that they introduce another love interest(despite that she's the most famous one) but there's very little time to make it look legit and not just a competition to Gwen that was chosen because Peter was left with no other option. How the whole situation plays out is what bothers me the most with bringing both Gwen and MJ in a film together.

Nicko-Ray 03-12-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny (Post 25376181)
Well I think it's obvious they won't just bring MJ to keep her as a friend and confidant. Initially, yes. But not always. The question is are they going to showcase the transition to her properly or it would seem forced to the point where general audience would think Pete went after her because his old girlfriend died. Bringing MJ in is tricky in the first place because everyone knows who she is. Someone mentioned Smallville before, which was about a young Clark Kent. His affection throughout most of the show's tenure was directed towards Lana Lang. Lois Lane was introduced in Season 4. Yet it wasn't until Season 8 where she and Clark started having romantic feelings. The point is, that show had ten seasons, the Spidey films are 160 minutes a piece tops. It's not only tricky that they introduce another love interest(despite that she's the most famous one) but there's very little time to make it look legit and not just a competition to Gwen that was chosen because Peter was left with no other option. How the whole situation plays out is what bothers me the most with bringing both Gwen and MJ in a film together.

Tons of good points here.
But I would say that they could go the route where MJ stays a friend, a close friend, but only up to that point due to the series being over.
They can't rush it or force it like you were saying, and I kinda doubt they will.

Johnny 03-12-2013 04:57 PM

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Hey, even though I seriously doubt it, I have no problem if MJ remains a friend. But if they go with the love affair, then things can get messy. The old films got away with it because Peter loved her since he was a child. That way, even with bringing Gwen in SM3, there was no way for her to be a real threat to MJ or for the situation to feel rushed. Don't get me wrong, I didn't like how they portrayed both MJ and Gwen in that movie at all. But here it's totally different and I hope Webb knows what he's doing. I also hope the suits aren't breathing down his neck like they did Raimi's.

Nicko-Ray 03-12-2013 05:39 PM

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Hahaha yeah I agree with most of your points. I do.
So you think MJ will become a romantic interest at some point in these movies, more than just Peter being attracted to her?

DigificWriter 03-12-2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickoray (Post 25375967)
Reversing the Ultimate universe as in this series' Gwen Stacy is basically Ultimate MJ, and this MJ will be Ultimate Gwen?

Characterization- wise, yes. They seem to have given this version of Gwen the characteristics of Ultimate MJ and this version of MJ the characteristics of Ultimate Gwen (at least in part).

With that said, I do think we'll see this version of Peter date both girls just as in the mainstream comic universe.

The filmmakers can use this film to establish MJ as a friend to Peter, have Gwen die fairly early on in TASM 3, and have MJ and Peter's established friendship grow into more over the course of the second half of TASM 3 with them getting together officially towards the end of the film.

Nicko-Ray 03-12-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DigificWriter (Post 25376851)
Characterization- wise, yes. They seem to have given this version of Gwen the characteristics of Ultimate MJ and this version of MJ the characteristics of Ultimate Gwen (at least in part).

With that said, I do think we'll see this version of Peter date both girls just as in the mainstream comic universe.

The filmmakers can use this film to establish MJ as a friend to Peter, have Gwen die fairly early on in TASM 3, and have MJ and Peter's established friendship grow into more over the course of the second half of TASM 3 with them getting together officially towards the end of the film.

Yeah I agree with the characterization points.
I'd be pretty surprised if they went with your plan..the death, and him getting with MJ at the end of 3. I personally think after Gwen dying, that Peter needs one whole movie of being single haha.

Johnny 03-12-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickoray (Post 25376663)
Hahaha yeah I agree with most of your points. I do.
So you think MJ will become a romantic interest at some point in these movies, more than just Peter being attracted to her?

Of course. If they're gonna go that way, they shouldn't just tease it or make it one-sided, but go all the way. But that's only if Peter and Gwen are done for good, whether Gwen dies or they break up. I want it to make sense, rushing it because Peter and MJ "have to" be together after Gwen is out of the picture, doesn't cut it for me. It needs to look legit and somewhat believable.

Nicko-Ray 03-12-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny (Post 25376937)
Of course. If they're gonna go that way, they shouldn't just tease it or make it one-sided, but go all the way. But that's only if Peter and Gwen are done for good, whether Gwen dies or they break up. I want it to make sense, rushing it because Peter and MJ "have to" be together after Gwen is out of the picture, doesn't cut it for me. It needs to look legit and somewhat believable.

Exactly. But I'm picturing that this series would end (at the 3rd movie) with Peter and MJ as friends, and us the audience knowing they'll get together eventually. I don't know why I feel that but I bet it.
I think it's because I think Marc Webb wants this series to differentiate from the Raimis.

Johnny 03-12-2013 06:51 PM

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Well yeah, I'm open to many different possibilities as long as they are executed well and make some sense.

Shikamaru 03-12-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DigificWriter (Post 25376851)
Characterization- wise, yes. They seem to have given this version of Gwen the characteristics of Ultimate MJ and this version of MJ the characteristics of Ultimate Gwen (at least in part).

Gwen in the movie is based on the 616 version of Gwen than Ultimate MJ. I wouldn't say she is based on Ultimate MJ since Ultimate MJ was technically 616 Gwen minus the science side (which Gwen has in the movie) and Ultimate Gwen was technically 616 MJ minus the supermodel look and with "teen punk" traits attached.

That begin said, I would find it really weird if Shailene's MJ is based on Ultimate MJ since Ultimate MJ is so similar to 616 Gwen who the Gwen in the movies is based off of. That's why I would prefer 616 MJ. Gwen and MJ have always been the exact opposite of each other in both the 616 and Ultimate universes which is what makes their relationship with Peter and the relationship between them so interesting. I feel that once you decide to go with 616 Gwen over Ultimate Gwen, MJ should also be more like her 616 version than her Ultimate version. Same thing would apply if Gwen was originally based on her Ultimate version.

TH29 03-12-2013 09:06 PM

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I know I could be totally wrong, but id love to see them take this series past a 4th movie and keep it going.

Johnny 03-12-2013 09:22 PM

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Don't get me wrong, as long as the movies are good, I don't mind how long they go. But the problem is movie sequels usually can't go indefinitely like the comics can. Though the comic books always have story arcs that end after a few issues too. Sure, there's notable examples like the Clone Saga and other stories that should not be named, which can obviously go on and on and on. But in films that can't really happen. Filmmakers usually run out of ideas and that's understandable. Looking at SM2, would you ever think Raimi would have the ludicrous ideas he had for SM4? Again, the more, the merrier, sure. But only if they have a good long term plan and know what they're doing.

TH29 03-12-2013 09:50 PM

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to me they painted themselves in a corner with SM3, it should have ended with the creation of venom. Those movies were mis-managed severely after 2, so if they work these right and dont cram too much and build everything to have layers, then they can extend the series and tell great stories for a while.

Nicko-Ray 03-12-2013 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TH29 (Post 25377859)
I know I could be totally wrong, but id love to see them take this series past a 4th movie and keep it going.

I'd like to see a total of four movies, tops. I think that would be appropriate.

PyroChamber 03-13-2013 04:03 AM

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I'm sure this has probably been mentioned, but we know that the pics of Mary Jane that we've seen so far are just of her in causal clothing but what if she actually gets more dressed up later in the movie and actually looks more like a knockout?

TheWallCrawler 03-13-2013 04:05 AM

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I don't know... I have a feeling that we're still not getting the ideal Mary Jane we have been hoping for

But if the character is interesting I will forgive the movie for making her different

kingfalcon 03-13-2013 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWallCrawler (Post 25379555)
I don't know... I have a feeling that we're still not getting the ideal Mary Jane we have been hoping for

But if the character is interesting I will forgive the movie for making her different

What's the ideal mary jane?

Nathan 03-13-2013 04:23 AM

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Supermodel Bombshell. That's what I seem to be able to decipher from forum posts at least.

TheWallCrawler 03-13-2013 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 25379591)
Supermodel Bombshell. That's what I seem to be able to decipher from forum posts at least.

When it comes to looks, I'm fine with Shailene. But I have a hard time believing they have the comic book MJ personality correct. I don't want her to be the cute girl next door like Raimi's MJ

Nathan 03-13-2013 04:34 AM

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I doubt they'd make her that. Emma's Gwen already fills the cute girl role.

TheWallCrawler 03-13-2013 04:36 AM

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true

Eggyman 03-13-2013 04:42 AM

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I agree. I think they'll use the two girls to represent two sides to Peter. Gwen is the responsible side, and MJ is the carefree side that encourages Pete to let loose a little more and embrace his powers more than he has.

AnneFan 03-13-2013 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Eggyman (Post 25379617)
I think they'll use the two girls to represent two sides to Peter. Gwen is the responsible side, and MJ is the carefree side that encourages Pete to let loose a little more and embrace his powers more than he has.

My thinking as well.

Eggyman 03-13-2013 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AnneFan (Post 25379663)
My thinking as well.

I've always thought of you as an extremely intelligent board member.

UnionJack 03-13-2013 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWallCrawler (Post 25379605)
I don't want her to be the cute girl next door like Raimi's MJ

I never got a "cute" vibe from Dunst.
She's like the girl in High School you think is hot, until you go to college and realize she is really a 7 at best ... though in Dunst's case more of a 4.

SpideyFan866 03-13-2013 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Eggyman (Post 25379617)
I agree. I think they'll use the two girls to represent two sides to Peter. Gwen is the responsible side, and MJ is the carefree side that encourages Pete to let loose a little more and embrace his powers more than he has.

Actually, I think it will end up being the other way around as being with Gwen at all is the most irresponsible thing Peter could possible do after what Captain Stacy asked him to do.

Eggyman 03-13-2013 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SpideyFan866 (Post 25379809)
Actually, I think it will end up being the other way around as being with Gwen at all is the most irresponsible thing Peter could possible do after what Captain Stacy asked him to do.

That's not really what I meant. Gwen is the studious responsible girl. MJ is the fun-loving girl with a fast ride. Each a reflection of one side of Peter.

SpideyFan866 03-13-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Eggyman (Post 25379841)
That's not really what I meant. Gwen is the studious responsible girl. MJ is the fun-loving girl with a fast ride. Each a reflection of one side of Peter.

I see what you mean.

Gianakin_ 03-13-2013 08:56 AM

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I think I started really paying attention to TASM2 when I heard MJ was gonna be in the movie. And when I heard who was playing her, I actually got hyped. Amazing casting so far. And Shai is hot as hell, to me, so I'm expecting a very very good MJ.

Based on the set pics, I speculate we're getting an independent "bad" girl. A person that had to be tough because of her domestic situation, but someone whose more sensitive side is waiting to be discovered and appreciated. She may be a bit envious of Peter's life (a loving aunt and girlfriend), but not in a bad, angsty, love-triangly way.

All in all, I'm excited.

webhead9707 03-13-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gianakin_ (Post 25380121)
I think I started really paying attention to TASM2 when I heard MJ was gonna be in the movie. And when I heard who was playing her, I actually got hyped. Amazing casting so far. And Shai is hot as hell, to me, so I'm expecting a very very good MJ.

Based on the set pics, I speculate we're getting an independent "bad" girl. A person that had to be tough because of her domestic situation, but someone whose more sensitive side is waiting to be discovered and appreciated. She may be a bit envious of Peter's life (a loving aunt and girlfriend), but not in a bad, angsty, love-triangly way.

All in all, I'm excited.

Well, that's a nice change of pace.:oldrazz:

Vid Electricz 03-13-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PyroChamber (Post 25379551)
I'm sure this has probably been mentioned, but we know that the pics of Mary Jane that we've seen so far are just of her in causal clothing but what if she actually gets more dressed up later in the movie and actually looks more like a knockout?

No, this has never been mentioned. Dressed up to look like a knockout? lol!

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Originally Posted by kingfalcon (Post 25379585)
What's the ideal mary jane?

Apparently a human being that resembles an Adam Hughes drawing. Fanbois reprezent.

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Originally Posted by TheWallCrawler (Post 25379555)
I don't know... I have a feeling that we're still not getting the ideal Mary Jane we have been hoping for

But if the character is interesting I will forgive the movie for making her different

It's a reinterpretation of the character. The exact same thing they did with Peter.

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 25379591)
Supermodel Bombshell. That's what I seem to be able to decipher from forum posts at least.

Yup. Pretty much. Character be damned, she needs to look like a comic book drawing! :doh:

Nicko-Ray 03-13-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Eggyman (Post 25379617)
I agree. I think they'll use the two girls to represent two sides to Peter. Gwen is the responsible side, and MJ is the carefree side that encourages Pete to let loose a little more and embrace his powers more than he has.

Yeah I feel like they definitely have to be opposites almost. They have to be different, and they're going to be. Why add another female character of the same characteristics? Especially MJ.

DigificWriter 03-13-2013 12:30 PM

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Someone above said that they wanted to see the 'ideal' Mary Jane show up on screen, so this is directed at that person: There is no 'ideal' Mary Jane Watson. This might be hard for some people to accept, but it's the truth. Were there in fact an 'ideal' version of MJ, we wouldn't have so many different versions of the character.

Fondue 03-13-2013 01:14 PM

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I can see where all this reverse Ultimate thing is coming from, but I don't really see it this way. It is like Ultimate in the sense that it modernizes the 616 story, but so did TAS and TSSM, and it's obvious Webb took some things from them or at least was inspired by them.
The way I see it, MJ in TASM2 is in transit between her teenage self (the one I posted a few pages back) and her young adult actress wannabe. Or a journalist, if Webb wants to avoid repeating after Raimi's MJ. It takes some time and experience to shift from one to another. In 616 she was already presented as an independent, ambitious young lady who lived alone, in TASM2 we'll see her father, which means she has to make this transition somewhere along the plot.
And Gwen was given more personality in TASM than in 616 simply because there wasn't much to work with, and the audience was supposed to fall for Gwen hard, so her death would make an impact. Which reminds me, MJ liked and respected Gwen in 616 and was rooting for her and Peter, even though she started developing feelings for him herself, so Gwen's death was very significant for her too. It made both her and Peter mature. I wonder if Webb's going there, I'd love to see this.

WarriorDreamer 03-13-2013 01:24 PM

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The thing with the Raimi series is they seemed to plan each film as they went along. I think at the start they had a three movie deal, but they only started planning each movie after the last one had finished, in the gap inbetween. It might be an idea to plan out the three movie arc and leave it open for IF there is a fourth movie and ultimately be pushing for one.

What I don't understand about the set pictures is it seems Mary Jane in this iteration is the 'normal girl.' It seems they are going for Ultimate Mary Jane with the personality of Ultimate Gwen (tough baddass chick.) First of all Raimi's MJ seemed like a mixture of Ultimate Mary Jane (Peter had always known her) 616 Gwen (Being the orginal love interest and a softer person) and 616 MJ (career goals.) Gwen in ASM is apparently a mixture of Ultimate Mary Jane and classic Gwen. If two previous characters have already been based Ultimate Mary Jane, isn't it time to give that version of the character a break? We've never seen classic Mary Jane on film. Why are people avoiding it, is it because they feel her character cannot translate well to screen?

Why is it they have to keep mixing characters together, why can't they just do simple adaptions of characters, I doubt it would cause a bad reaction.

WarriorDreamer 03-13-2013 02:14 PM

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http://imagecache5d.art.com/Crop/cro...w=473&maxh=488 Ultimate Mary Jane = Best friend to Peter since young, isn't a party animal, is a journalist. Has a temper but is otherwise calm. She is the girl next door. Peter and her have a close relationship and he reveals early on he is Spider-Man.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wcnW_OHPtI...s320/mjw-5.jpg Amazing 616 Mary Jane = Introduced as the 'other woman.' Was originally just a temptation for Peter to get inbetween Peter and Gwen's relationship. Works as a supermodel and actress. Hides her pain with a carefree party animal persona.

http://www.assignmentx.com/wp-conten...imate-Gwen.jpg = Ultimate Gwen. A rebellious and angry girl who gets inbetween Peter and Mary Jane. However never has a romantic relationship with Peter.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_q5KwETxoEE..._gwenstacy.jpg = Amazing 616 Gwen. Was the orginal love interest of Peter Parker. A bit of a 'daddy's girl', is into science. Never finds out Peter is Spider-Man, is killed before then.


Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1...-mary_jane.jpg = Ultimate Mary Jane due to her looks, short hair. Is like Gwen in being the first love interest, is like 616 Mary Jane by having her career. Is more similar to 616 Gwen in personality but is in fact, not like any of them. Her own entity, created by Sam Raimi. Some say she was based on the 90's TV series of MJ. She also has similarities to Liz Allen.


Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MwnH1kpbPR...-gwenstacy.jpg = 616 Gwen, due to her look, her interest in science. Is more like 616 MJ due to being 'the other woman.' She worked as a model like 616 Mary Jane, but in the comics Gwen worked as a model too so she is pretty accurate to 616 Gwen apart from being in the wrong place, at the wrong time.


Emma Stone as Gwen
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/t...Spider-Man.jpg = 616 Gwen due to having Gwen's interest in science, being the first love interest of Peter and being similar in personality. More like Ultimate Mary Jane being the girl who knows Peter's secret and being a good friend to Peter before she is a love interest. Is similar to Spectacular Gwen in the TV series that way.

Now logically speaking, adding all of that up and doing the math, technically Shailene as MJ should be playing a mixture of the Spectacular Spider-Man Mary Jane with 616 MJ's role, with a bit of Ultimate Gwen's role thrown in as well. Basically a very edgy streetsmart party girl who potentially gets in the way of Peter and Gwen's relationship. Not to go shallow but I think her look should be based on 616 Mary Jane. We've never had that before on film. It would also feel like the first time we're seeing a different MJ than before.

Midnight Black 03-13-2013 03:14 PM

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!WarriorDreamer great break down! However, shouldn't Shailene's look be based on 616 MJ or Ultimate Gwen. Both Gwens were based off of 616 Gwen in appearance from what you said. Also going off your last sentence, "Not to go shallow but I think her look should be based on 616 Gwen. We've never had that before on film. It would also feel like the first time we're seeing a different MJ than before." However, you mention that both Gwens on film look like 616 in appearance.

Johnny 03-13-2013 04:58 PM

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Ultimate MJ is the best. I'm extremely biased towards that version of the character and hope some elements of Shailene's MJ are based on her.

WarriorDreamer 03-13-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight Black (Post 25382001)
!WarriorDreamer great break down! However, shouldn't Shailene's look be based on 616 MJ or Ultimate Gwen. Both Gwens were based off of 616 Gwen in appearance from what you said. Also going off your last sentence, "Not to go shallow but I think her look should be based on 616 Gwen. We've never had that before on film. It would also feel like the first time we're seeing a different MJ than before." However, you mention that both Gwens on film look like 616 in appearance.

Sorry, I corrected it. Her look should be based on 616 MJ. You're right.

Nicko-Ray 03-13-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny (Post 25382627)
Ultimate MJ is the best. I'm extremely biased towards that version of the character and hope some elements of Shailene's MJ are based on her.

Yeah I like Ultimate MJ a lot too. Hopefully..

SpideyFan866 03-13-2013 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWallCrawler (Post 25379605)
When it comes to looks, I'm fine with Shailene. But I have a hard time believing they have the comic book MJ personality correct. I don't want her to be the cute girl next door like Raimi's MJ

Why cant they have the comic book personality?

She can still be a troubled girl with a troubled past, that covers it with a wild, rebellious, party girl facade. That part doesn't require Supermodel looks.

Its MJ actually being a model that does and we don't even know if that aspect of her will be featured (likely not). But even then, Shailene has done modeling in real life and looked gorgeous.

Plus, need I remind you that Dunst's MJ did modeling in the Raimi films? Nuff said

Johnny 03-13-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SpideyFan866 (Post 25382773)
Why cant they have the comic book personality?

She can still be a troubled girl with a troubled past, that covers it with a wild, rebellious, party girl facade. That part doesn't require Supermodel looks.

This person talks a lot of sense. Listen to him.

Repulsor Blast 03-13-2013 08:57 PM

Re: Shailene Woodley IS Mary Jane Watson! - Part 2
 
Ultimate Gwen dated Peter for a while just FYI


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