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The Joker 08-22-2012 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Incredible Hans (Post 24192217)
This is the best Batman film of the whole Burton/Schuhmacher series. Definitely!

Seconded.

Homer J. Fong 08-22-2012 06:23 PM

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Agreed, but some people already well know that I agree. :cwink:

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-22-2012 06:41 PM

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I flip back and forth between this and Batman 1989 so much... I can never decide which is better. (But I think Returns edges out)

It's almost like everything he got right in B89 he got wrong in BR and vice versa.

I would have loved to have seen Michelle's Catwoman in Anton Furst's Gotham. :hrt:

CConn 08-22-2012 06:51 PM

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My #1 biggest complaint about BR will forever be that they didn't return to Furst's Gotham.

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-22-2012 06:54 PM

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Yep... thats the biggest shame.

I'm surprised Burton didn't at least work with Furst to see if he could change or improve his designs (to keep them both creatively interested).

CConn 08-22-2012 06:57 PM

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Who knows what Furst's mental state was so few months before his death.

I could be wrong, but I remember hearing somewhere that all of the B89 sets were still standing in the London studios at the time of BR's development. But for tax reasons or something, they decided to shoot in LA instead, and all of the sets were destroyed.

Homer J. Fong 08-22-2012 07:10 PM

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^I have no idea about that, but Burton and Welch weren't going to just take out the old sets anyway. I like Bo Welch's Gotham, and to me it's still recognizably close enough to what came before that it doesn't feel like BR takes place in a totally different world.

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-22-2012 07:16 PM

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Really? It feels like a different world to me...

The only thing they kept the same was the Batmobile.

CConn 08-22-2012 07:22 PM

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And I'm pretty sure Burton said he wanted it to feel like a different world as well.

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-22-2012 07:26 PM

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No I know... and I appreciate that.

He wanted to remain creatively energized. I do enjoy the somewhat claustrophobic atmosphere.

CConn 08-22-2012 07:27 PM

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Right after making a movie that looks and sounds exactly like Batman Returns. :o

AnneFan 08-22-2012 08:39 PM

Re: The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Incredible Hans (Post 24192217)
This is the best Batman film of the whole Burton/Schuhmacher series. Definitely!

Absolutely. B89 is gold, but this one is just better to me.

As for not using the Furst Gotham again, I loved how B89 looked. But I also like what they did for BR and I'm not as bothered about the change. Getting two different interpretations was cool IMO, and I like both for different reasons.

The Joker 08-22-2012 09:02 PM

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My main problem with BR's Gotham is how small it seemed. Most of the exterior Gotham scenes happen in Gotham Plaza.

But small as it seemed it was a beautiful Gotham City especially with the snow.

returntovoid 08-23-2012 02:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer J. Fong (Post 24193263)
^I have no idea about that, but Burton and Welch weren't going to just take out the old sets anyway. I like Bo Welch's Gotham, and to me it's still recognizably close enough to what came before that it doesn't feel like BR takes place in a totally different world.

Exactly. Also, the cinematographer for Terry Gilliam's Brazil, Roger Pratt, worked on B89 but even with Stefan Czapsky as Pratt's replacement for BR, it's still consistent because Tim Burton is behind the camera.

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-23-2012 07:34 AM

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I still think the cinematography in Batman Returns is amazing... doesn't show it's age at all.

AnneFan 08-23-2012 09:36 AM

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Batman Returns looks gorgeous.

http://i46.tinypic.com/35k9178.jpg

GothamAlleys 08-23-2012 10:00 AM

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the cinematography in BR is gorgeous indeed

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9g5Fk3nJdi...1600/brlit.png
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JrMAg7gZ5F...thicwindow.PNG

The Joker 08-23-2012 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GothamAlleys (Post 24196799)

Beautiful :up:

Here's some of my favorites:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Returns006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Returns038.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Returns248.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Returns356.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Returns448.jpg

Two-Face 08-23-2012 12:35 PM

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BR looks great on bluray.

Kane52630 08-23-2012 12:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Two-Face (Post 24197491)
BR looks great on bluray.

Yeah it's a great transfer, which is odd. The blu ray transfers for 66, 89, Returns, Forever, and B&R was better than Nolan's Batman blu ray releases (minus the IMAX shots in TDK).

CConn 08-23-2012 12:42 PM

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It looks great on Blu-Ray and like **** on DVD. :o

Hellion 08-23-2012 12:45 PM

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This is still my favorite Burton movie, my only gripe with Gotham was everything seemed to take place in the same street-area, The city hall-Shreck's Store, etc...everything just happened to be within walking distance...

...the shots @ Penguin's hideout in the end interior and exterior I always thought looked amazing...I feel they did a great job with the design elements of the Zoo...

Kane52630 08-23-2012 12:49 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/u86rnl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kTjYyl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/35gXcl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EqvASl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jETj8l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MMppyl.jpg

Two-Face 08-23-2012 12:59 PM

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Those are great. :up:

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-23-2012 04:26 PM

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I always loved this... :hrt:

http://i50.tinypic.com/2qwltte.jpg


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