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Thread Manager 07-17-2012 11:38 AM

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This is a continuation thread, the old thread is Here

Thread Manager 07-17-2012 11:38 AM

The Official Batman Returns Thread - Part 2
 
This is a continuation thread, the old thread is Here

Pfeiffer-Pfan 07-17-2012 11:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponyboy (Post 23877859)
^Not available outside America :wall:



The entire interview...

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...qqpjo1_250.gif

Havok83 07-17-2012 09:31 PM

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Just watched this movie again and still love it! Unlike the first Batman film, thisholds up very well. Catwoman made it for me. What I didnt like about Batman was how cringeworthy and cheesy it could be. I loved and appreciated the more mature and dark town that its sequel took. Overall great film and still remains my favorite

One thing I didnt get though was when the Ice Princess fell off the building, why the heck did Batman just stand there and do nothing? Why didnt he jump after her and/or use his gadgets to save her? Him not reacting at all came across dumb

Kane52630 07-17-2012 09:55 PM

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Michelle Pfeiffer still looks good. :up:

Da Games Elite 07-17-2012 10:50 PM

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I have a love-hate thing with this film. It really depends on when I watch it. Sometimes, if I'm in the right mindset, I really enjoy the atmosphere, how strange it is, the craziness...but like tonight, when I rewatched it, all I saw was how cringe worthy some of the ideas were, how Batman was a side-character in his own film, and, most importantly, how weird it all was. It felt like things happened because it looked cool. It didn't really feel like a movie, but rather was a little...sloppy.

Two-Face 07-18-2012 07:22 AM

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"You didn't invite me so I crashed" - Penguin.

"Rats with wings do your thing" - Penguin

"Bruce Wayne why are you dressed up as Batman?" - Max Shreck

"Becouse he is Batman you moron" - Selina

That's top of my head. I always like the quotes

Radioactive1980 07-18-2012 08:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Games Elite (Post 23890203)
I have a love-hate thing with this film. It really depends on when I watch it. Sometimes, if I'm in the right mindset, I really enjoy the atmosphere, how strange it is, the craziness...but like tonight, when I rewatched it, all I saw was how cringe worthy some of the ideas were, how Batman was a side-character in his own film, and, most importantly, how weird it all was. It felt like things happened because it looked cool. It didn't really feel like a movie, but rather was a little...sloppy.

Agree.

I had not watched it for a while but it was on ITV2 last night so I watched it. Being someone who always loved BR, it was weird, this time it did not really do it for me. I turned it off with half an hour to go and just went to bed. Batman 89 having been on the week prior, I watched that and it was still great.

I'd never really noticed it before but Batman IS actually just a side character in this film. It's all about the Cat and the Bird. And what is up with Wayne Manor? 1) that is not the building from the first film and 2) it looks like a model.

Another thing that always bugged me about BR is that you can tell it was shot entirely on sets;- the narrow-ness of the streets and how Bats only ever drives 10mph through em, when the Bat and the Cat are scrappin on the rooftops, you can tell the buildings in the background are not real. You can really see the difference without Anton Furst and any location shoots.

I love the weirdness of it and Michelle and DeVito are awesome, but when I actually get past the initial nerdgasm of seeing Keaton in a new Batsuit driving the Burtonmobile, well, the film leaves a lot to be desired and imo is nowhere near as good as the first one.

Kane52630 07-18-2012 09:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Two-Face (Post 23893747)
"You didn't invite me so I crashed" - Penguin.

"Rats with wings do your thing" - Penguin

"Bruce Wayne why are you dressed up as Batman?" - Max Shreck

"Becouse he is Batman you moron" - Selina

That's top of my head. I always like the quotes

My favorite BR quote is this:

"My name is not Oswald! It's Penguin! I am not a human being. I am an animal! Cold-blooded!" - Penguin

Ponyboy 07-19-2012 04:41 AM

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http://images4.fanpop.com/image/phot...-1179-1792.jpg

Pfeiffer-Pfan 07-27-2012 10:03 AM

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http://i46.tinypic.com/r9nzp4.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/e7gcxu.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/j16904.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/jajku1.jpg

Two-Face 07-27-2012 11:08 AM

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I never see those before, nice.

Hellion 07-27-2012 12:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Two-Face (Post 23893747)
"You didn't invite me so I crashed" - Penguin.

"Rats with wings do your thing" - Penguin

"Bruce Wayne why are you dressed up as Batman?" - Max Shreck

"Becouse he is Batman you moron" - Selina

That's top of my head. I always like the quotes

I can't believe you didn't mention:

"I am CATWOMAN. Hear me roar."-Catwoman...well yeah lol...

Some of my other favorites:

"Your just jealous because I'm a genuine freak and you have to wear a mask."-Penguin (not sure if thats exactly)

"Mistletoe can be deadly if you eat it. But a kiss can be even deadlier...if you mean it"-Batman/Bruce and Catwoman/Selina (still my favorite comic film romance...just tragic by the end.)

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-04-2012 08:28 AM

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Mary Vogt:

Quote:

“We knew we wanted it to be black and sexy and tight and shiny. Latex is as black and sexy and tight as you can get. When Bob Ringwood and I first designed the costume, it was for another actress. She had to drop out and Michelle came in, at the last minute. Michelle moves beautifully, and she was just a perfect fit for that costume. Because you can see everything – and the latex makes it look very fluid, and Michelle just has a beautiful, fluid way of working – she’s very athletic, so she gave it a modern look. It was difficult to wear – we had to cover Michelle with baby powder before she got into the suit. We made a body cast of her, and the costume was made on the body cast. We were afraid that it would rip, because she had these cat claws, and because it’s latex, once it ripped it’s over, you can’t repair it. So we had to make about 40 cat-suits, but actually it never ripped, it was very strong.

Tim Burton came up with the idea for the stitches. He had this vision of the calico cat – with its stitches starting to come apart. Bob Ringwood and I were like, stitches? On latex? How do we do that? So we sculpted stitches in cast and glued them on. It looked terrible! So we decided to brush her in silicon, this thick liquid. After she had the costume on, we painted the silicon on her with big sponge brushes. So she’s dripping all over the place. But silicon, because it’s so shiny, when it was lit all you saw was the shine. And since she was moving around at night, it looked really fluid. That costume is all about the light – and of course, all about Michelle. At the end of the day, you’re helping the actor create the character. Whether they come from another planet or down the block, if it’s cavemen or contemporary, you have to go with what the actor’s personality is, they have to feel comfortable.”
http://i46.tinypic.com/x2jk80.jpg

http://www.anothermag.com/current/vi...iffers_Catsuit

Lord 08-04-2012 08:40 AM

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It's a shame that spin-off of catwoman turned out the way it did

AnneFan 08-07-2012 07:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pfeiffer-Pfan (Post 23998735)

I've seen it before but I love this one. DeVito did a magnificent job with his Penguin, transforming into that character. If I were Tim here I'd be afraid of standing there with him!

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-07-2012 07:48 AM

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20 years... :hrt:

http://i46.tinypic.com/a4pfs4.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/aeb1w3.jpg

Havok83 08-07-2012 07:54 AM

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She's aged extremely well. Him? Not so much

Two-Face 08-07-2012 02:00 PM

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Funny, Burton still wearing those sunglasses in 2012. A newer ones of course.

runawayboulder 08-07-2012 09:21 PM

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How is G4 doing a Batman marathon this weekend but excluding this movie?!?!?

I don't get it.....you can never see this on TV anywhere! It's my favorite Batman flick behind TDK.

:( :( :(

TheWatcher 08-09-2012 02:32 PM

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I was asking the same thing :csad:

I just watched the end of BR today. Keaton was fantastic in this movie.

Kane52630 08-09-2012 03:26 PM

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I remember seeing it play on tv all the time during the late 90s and early 2000s. I think I saw it once on a local tv station last year.

Homer J. Fong 08-09-2012 03:32 PM

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I did see that it's on Encore tonight - for those who have Encore.

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-10-2012 01:48 PM

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http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...o10_r1_250.gif

Incredible Hans 08-22-2012 03:26 PM

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This is the best Batman film of the whole Burton/Schuhmacher series. Definitely!

The Joker 08-22-2012 06:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Incredible Hans (Post 24192217)
This is the best Batman film of the whole Burton/Schuhmacher series. Definitely!

Seconded.

Homer J. Fong 08-22-2012 06:23 PM

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Agreed, but some people already well know that I agree. :cwink:

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-22-2012 06:41 PM

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I flip back and forth between this and Batman 1989 so much... I can never decide which is better. (But I think Returns edges out)

It's almost like everything he got right in B89 he got wrong in BR and vice versa.

I would have loved to have seen Michelle's Catwoman in Anton Furst's Gotham. :hrt:

CConn 08-22-2012 06:51 PM

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My #1 biggest complaint about BR will forever be that they didn't return to Furst's Gotham.

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-22-2012 06:54 PM

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Yep... thats the biggest shame.

I'm surprised Burton didn't at least work with Furst to see if he could change or improve his designs (to keep them both creatively interested).

CConn 08-22-2012 06:57 PM

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Who knows what Furst's mental state was so few months before his death.

I could be wrong, but I remember hearing somewhere that all of the B89 sets were still standing in the London studios at the time of BR's development. But for tax reasons or something, they decided to shoot in LA instead, and all of the sets were destroyed.

Homer J. Fong 08-22-2012 07:10 PM

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^I have no idea about that, but Burton and Welch weren't going to just take out the old sets anyway. I like Bo Welch's Gotham, and to me it's still recognizably close enough to what came before that it doesn't feel like BR takes place in a totally different world.

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-22-2012 07:16 PM

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Really? It feels like a different world to me...

The only thing they kept the same was the Batmobile.

CConn 08-22-2012 07:22 PM

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And I'm pretty sure Burton said he wanted it to feel like a different world as well.

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-22-2012 07:26 PM

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No I know... and I appreciate that.

He wanted to remain creatively energized. I do enjoy the somewhat claustrophobic atmosphere.

CConn 08-22-2012 07:27 PM

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Right after making a movie that looks and sounds exactly like Batman Returns. :o

AnneFan 08-22-2012 08:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Incredible Hans (Post 24192217)
This is the best Batman film of the whole Burton/Schuhmacher series. Definitely!

Absolutely. B89 is gold, but this one is just better to me.

As for not using the Furst Gotham again, I loved how B89 looked. But I also like what they did for BR and I'm not as bothered about the change. Getting two different interpretations was cool IMO, and I like both for different reasons.

The Joker 08-22-2012 09:02 PM

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My main problem with BR's Gotham is how small it seemed. Most of the exterior Gotham scenes happen in Gotham Plaza.

But small as it seemed it was a beautiful Gotham City especially with the snow.

returntovoid 08-23-2012 02:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer J. Fong (Post 24193263)
^I have no idea about that, but Burton and Welch weren't going to just take out the old sets anyway. I like Bo Welch's Gotham, and to me it's still recognizably close enough to what came before that it doesn't feel like BR takes place in a totally different world.

Exactly. Also, the cinematographer for Terry Gilliam's Brazil, Roger Pratt, worked on B89 but even with Stefan Czapsky as Pratt's replacement for BR, it's still consistent because Tim Burton is behind the camera.

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-23-2012 07:34 AM

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I still think the cinematography in Batman Returns is amazing... doesn't show it's age at all.

AnneFan 08-23-2012 09:36 AM

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Batman Returns looks gorgeous.

http://i46.tinypic.com/35k9178.jpg

GothamAlleys 08-23-2012 10:00 AM

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the cinematography in BR is gorgeous indeed

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9g5Fk3nJdi...1600/brlit.png
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JrMAg7gZ5F...thicwindow.PNG

The Joker 08-23-2012 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GothamAlleys (Post 24196799)

Beautiful :up:

Here's some of my favorites:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Returns006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Returns038.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Returns248.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Returns356.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...Returns448.jpg

Two-Face 08-23-2012 12:35 PM

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BR looks great on bluray.

Kane52630 08-23-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Two-Face (Post 24197491)
BR looks great on bluray.

Yeah it's a great transfer, which is odd. The blu ray transfers for 66, 89, Returns, Forever, and B&R was better than Nolan's Batman blu ray releases (minus the IMAX shots in TDK).

CConn 08-23-2012 12:42 PM

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It looks great on Blu-Ray and like **** on DVD. :o

Hellion 08-23-2012 12:45 PM

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This is still my favorite Burton movie, my only gripe with Gotham was everything seemed to take place in the same street-area, The city hall-Shreck's Store, etc...everything just happened to be within walking distance...

...the shots @ Penguin's hideout in the end interior and exterior I always thought looked amazing...I feel they did a great job with the design elements of the Zoo...

Kane52630 08-23-2012 12:49 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/u86rnl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kTjYyl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/35gXcl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EqvASl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jETj8l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MMppyl.jpg

Two-Face 08-23-2012 12:59 PM

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Those are great. :up:

Pfeiffer-Pfan 08-23-2012 04:26 PM

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I always loved this... :hrt:

http://i50.tinypic.com/2qwltte.jpg


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