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Nave 'Torment' 08-30-2012 03:26 AM

Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos
 
The two greatest anarchists on the face of superhero movies...

The original Norse trickster figure/god of mischief/horse-raider who manipulates your heart vs. The archetypal trickster/agent of chaos/schizophrenic clown who inspires your mind to madness




http://images5.fanpop.com/image/phot...35-851-432.png


http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...okismugjpg.jpg

"I come with glad tidings. Of a world free... from Freedom."

a malignant bastard son who feels wronged for being born in the wrong place, with a self-appointed need to oppose Fate

against

http://hqwallpapers.eu/wallpaper/the...er-1111387.jpg
http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...tTheJoker7.jpg

"Their morals, their codes is a bad joke. They're only good as the world allows them to be. When the chips are down, these civilized people will eat each other. The truth: the only sensible way to live life is without rules."

a nihilistic clown who sees the world as inherently absurd and meaningless, with a propensity to show that morality is a joke and that any action is ultimately justifiable by the idea of opposites.



Picture a three-part contest, concluding with a face-off.

1. Each has to escape their respective prisons,

2. Cause at least 1 significant landmark catastrophe in town

3. Kill a beloved "supporting character"

* all the while keeping your do-gooder off-track.

Finally

Break the other guy in their own torture-room / evil-lair. Loki gets Arkham Asylum, Joker gets Hel. (OR if you want to keep things relevant to the movies, Loki gets Gordon's MCU at Gotham Central - Joker get's the Helicarrier). Essentially this last place has to be the one where your anarchist broke out of in the first place.


Nave 'Torment' 08-30-2012 06:07 AM

Re: Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos
 
Round 1: The Break Out

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...2yflo1_500.png

The God of Mischief is imprisoned, either here:

http://geekcity.ru/wp-content/upload...llicarrier.jpg http://www.fortressofsolitude.co.za/...Imprisoned.jpg http://alienbee.net/wp-content/uploa...ngers-loki.jpg

The S.H.I.E.L.D. Hellicarrier

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7byq2CsUv1qkgzpe.gif


or here...

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...ufrock/hel.jpg http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg...uo3zo1_500.jpg
http://www.web-books.com/Classics/Bo...images/568.jpghttp://www.asatru.ru/visions/Lokiserpent2.jpg

Hel's Rock, Niflheim. The Asgardian prison.

http://images.wikia.com/marvelanimat...ged_Hel_HV.jpg

Nave 'Torment' 08-30-2012 06:39 AM

Re: Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos
 
The Break Out

http://www.alanbaxteronline.com/wp-c...8/07/joker.jpg

The Clown's either imprisoned here...

http://londonist-static.s3.amazonaws...e_exterior.jpg http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...pd-400x300.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/2ep6gcp.jpg

Gordon's MCU cells at Gotham Central

http://images1.fanpop.com/images/pho...64-400-200.gif


or at home...

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF.../arkham/01.jpg

Arkham Asylum. Home for the emotionally disturbed and the criminally inspired.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-x-X21Xiyr5...s1600/drag.jpg

Nave 'Torment' 08-30-2012 11:29 AM

Re: Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos
 
Round 2: Ragnarok

The idea is to cause at least one landmark catastrophe in each of their respective locations:

Asgard,

http://buzzpop.net/wp-content/upload...2B-Bifrost.jpg

Some prominent landmarks include Valaskiaf: Palace of Odin, and the Bifrost (seen here) as well as...


http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...llofheroes.jpg

The Hall of Heroes (Great Hall of Asgard)

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/...b4b/detail.jpg

Arena / Dome of Combat

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...Prufrock/d.jpg

Warrior's Walk / Thingstead / Asgardian Agora (Divine Council)

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...0830214155.jpg

Hlidskiaf: Highseat of Odin

http://www.viking-mythology.com/imag...uld_Future.jpg

Urd's Well / Well of Fate

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...0830212242.jpg

Odin's Weapons Vault

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...0830212404.jpg

Seat of Frigga


or...

Nave 'Torment' 08-30-2012 12:18 PM

Re: Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos
 
Marvel's New York:


http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/up...ue-liverty.jpg

Statue of Liberty / Liberty Island


http://farm1.staticflickr.com/55/152...df0b67f5_z.jpg

Queensburo Bridge

http://cdn.lightgalleries.net/4bd5ec...es/35303-2.jpg

Empire State Building

http://onthesetofnewyork.com/locatio...derman2_04.jpg

Columbi...er... I mean Empire State University

http://oaxacangringa.files.wordpress...-bridge-1a.jpg

Brooklyn Bridge (as appeared in Fantastic Four)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_Building.jpg

Baxter Building

http://onthesetofnewyork.com/superhe...erbuilding.jpg

Chrysler Building

http://images.wikia.com/marvelmovies...aily_Bugle.jpg

The Daily Bugle

http://unleashthefanboy.s3.amazonaws...corp-tower.jpg

Oscorp Towers

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...tark-Tower.jpg

Stark Towers

Nave 'Torment' 08-30-2012 02:56 PM

Re: Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos
 
Round 2: Ragnarok

The Joker's location, of course, would be more limited than Loki's since he's only got Gotham City to play with. But that doesn't mean his choice for symbolic landmarks is any less.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__...tham_City.jpeg


You start with Gotham's other prince...

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...nterprises.jpg

Wayne Tower

(the adjacent road leads both to the Monorail Station as well as to the street where there was once a confrontation with the Dark Knight)

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF...nemanor/09.jpg

Wayne Manor

http://clzimages.com/comic/large/91/...standFound.jpg

Gotham Clock Tower

http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/...-00-650-80.jpg

Sprang Memorial Bridge

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...chTheatre3.jpg

Monarch Theatre, Parkrow "Crime Alley" - a special place for Batman, located in Lower East End, where incidentally Catwoman hangs around.

http://www.fanboyscloset.com/wp-cont...h45m32s154.jpg

Gotham Hall of Records - you blow this up and you destroy the city's history

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/.../Batcave_2.jpg

The Batcave - if only you can locate it...

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...Cathedral1.jpg

Gotham Cathedral - Batman vs. Joker history that makes it a landmark

Nave 'Torment' 08-30-2012 03:21 PM

Re: Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos
 
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__...el_chicago.jpg

Prewitt Building - another personally historical landmark

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...63_634x297.jpg

Gotham Stadium

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vZ_ft7QzlAQ/0.jpg

Gotham Stock Exchange

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...hamgeneral.jpg

Gotham General Hospital

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/188/4...a8d8198bcf.jpg

Gotham National Bank (if it worked once it'll work again)

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...Courthouse.jpg

Gotham District Court House

http://www.oocities.org/area51/labyr...4/terminal.jpg

Gotham International Airport

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__...VUH1qe4zhy.jpg

Blackgate Penitentiary

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...ityhalljpg.jpg

Gotham City Hall

Nave 'Torment' 08-30-2012 03:28 PM

Re: Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos
 
BONUS ANTAGONISTS:

Since this is a contest between two evil-doers, it's rudimentary that the character alone blows the chosen landmark, which means they might have to one-up another anarchist-figure in the process in Round 2.

For Loki, that's

http://cdn.wegotthiscovered.com/wp-c...blin_film.jpeg


and for DC's clown, it's Vertigo's own anarchist:

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1...r_vendetta.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9frL5oifwm...blown%2Bup.jpg

Nave 'Torment' 08-30-2012 07:36 PM

Re: Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos
 
Round 3: Getting the Bunny

Having destroyed one significant landmark in the city, the character's primary nemeses are busy dealing with the disaster. During the ensuing confusion, the agenda (and opportunity) is perfect to cause a holocaust that's much more personal...

The objective of Round 3 is to kill a supporting character, either an ally or a love-interest. The methods to do so, as always, remain open to improvisation.

For Loki, the potential victims are...

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...ock/sifgif.gif

Sif "The Beautiful Haired"

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ane_Foster.png

"Doctor" Jane Foster

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...dallsentry.jpg

Heimdall "The Sentry"

http://nerdbastards.com/wp-content/u...-Skarsgard.jpg

Professor "Myth-Knowing" Selvig

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3...balder_sif.jpg

Baldur "The Other Brother"

or

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...nt-Coulson.jpg

Phil Coulson, "Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D."

Nave 'Torment' 08-30-2012 08:02 PM

Re: Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos
 
The Joker has the choice of selecting between

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...al-1055446.jpg

Rachel "Bat's Little Bunny" Dawse

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...itmapImage.jpg

"Commissionerr" Gordon

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...ck/tdk2rq0.jpg

CEO of Wayne Enterprises Lucius Fox

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/.../DKR-13593.jpg

"Catwoman"

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/.../130727191.jpg

That Orphan Kid (with a crowbar)

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/..._122_335lo.jpg

District Attorney Harvey Dent

Nave 'Torment' 09-01-2012 03:46 AM

Re: Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos
 
Heroes on your back:

http://www.vhealthjuice.com/wp-conte...12/05/thor.jpg

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...ock/dk0140.jpg

Nave 'Torment' 09-01-2012 04:21 AM

Re: Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos
 
Finally...

The Face-Off. You have to break your opponent at their own prison. Winning this determines the outcome, but the advantages...

At the site of the face-off, if you come in first and have a 2 outta 3 advantage in the "race," you get to keep one of your own goodies. The advantage means that Loki gets to keep his scepter, and the Joker gets to keep all his cards. So, who would break first in a hypothetical torture scenario? Loki in Hel/Helicarrier, or the Joker in Arkham/MCU, provided that the torturer is the other guy? You decide. With reasons.

Who's better at anarchy?

the God of Mischief,
or the Prince of Chaos?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yq9IzG3a5O...0/herewego.jpg

Docker2.0 07-20-2013 11:22 AM

Re: Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos
 
I can't be the only one confused about this thread. :dry:

Blake II 07-22-2013 10:08 AM

Re: Bigger threat: Loki vs. Joker? Mischief vs. Chaos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Docker2.0 (Post 26405437)
I can't be the only one confused about this thread. :dry:

Lol I don't even know if it's about breaking out of prison and fighting or who can break out of prison first. And I have no clue what Green Goblin and Vertigo have to do with this.


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