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redhawk23 01-21-2013 03:07 PM

The Klingon Thread
 
This film features scenes set on the Klingon homeworld. We'll finally get to see the Klingon designs cut out of the first film.

Furthermore, the question of whether or not Klingons have ridges in this era is finally settled. According to set reports and advanced screenings they do. Two Klingons are seen without helmets and are reported to have ornamental ridge piercings.


There are a few images of the klingon costumes out. Most are stills and clips from the deleted scense from ST09 but the cover of IDW's Into Darkness countdown comic also features a nuKlingon.

http://moviepilot.com/stories/781553...-into-darkness

Klingon presented on the cover of the last issue of the preview comic, due out a few weeks before the films release.
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploa...k-klingons.jpg


Personally I think that costume is an improvement over the grey trenchcoats they were going to be wearing in Star Trek 09.

http://geektyrant.com/storage/0999-p...=1355184435955

Pink Ranger 01-21-2013 04:41 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
My vote is for mainly ridged Klingons, with some augment-virus Klingons around in the background just as Easter eggs for the hardcore Trekkies.

Although it would be interesting if they ever explored the racial differences between "real" Klingons and those descended from the augment-virus infected Klingons. Like maybe the latter are considered "mutants," or maybe (as TOS might indicate) the augment Klingons are a minority that temporarily seizes power through a variety of means. Plenty of examples in human history of that.

Great Mind(s) 01-21-2013 05:06 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
What is that picture from!?

The Squirrel 01-21-2013 06:46 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
Seeing the Klingons again is probably one my top reasons for being excited about the new film.

redhawk23 01-22-2013 11:16 AM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Mind(s) (Post 25039319)
What is that picture from!?

There's a whole sequence in the deleted Scenes of Star Trek 09 of Nero on the Klingon prison planet Rura Penth

Here you go.



This scene was going to be right in the middle of the film right after the "3 years later" title card.

Doc Ock 01-22-2013 02:35 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
I really dig their helmets. :up:

Destructus86 01-22-2013 03:20 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
I really dig the re-done Klingon outfits!!

SuBe 01-22-2013 03:32 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
Did anyone else notice that Nero and the Romulans were using Klingon disruptors in ST 2009? It bugged me that they got the design wrong until I found out about the deleted sequence in the film.

Silvermoth 01-25-2013 02:25 AM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Destructus86 (Post 25044323)
I really dig the re-done Klingon outfits!!

Yeah me too! They look great!

Destructus86 01-25-2013 09:19 AM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SuBe (Post 25044397)
Did anyone else notice that Nero and the Romulans were using Klingon disruptors in ST 2009? It bugged me that they got the design wrong until I found out about the deleted sequence in the film.

didn't watch the deleted scenes...but I take it they were using stolen weapons? Which would make sense since they were a mining ship and not geared for war.

Pink Ranger 01-25-2013 10:43 AM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
Or they could have just bought Klingon weapons, the same way Americans can buy Russian-made assault rifles.

redhawk23 01-25-2013 12:15 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
They broke out of a Klingon prison where they were held for 25 years. I think it's pretty safe to say where they got the Klingon weapons.

Also, weird note, originally, when Nero had more scenes throughout the movie he originally did not until after stranding Spock Prime on Trek-Hoth. A 25 year vow of silence. Odd.

Pink Ranger 01-25-2013 01:40 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
I'm assuming that the deleted scenes never actually "happened" though, unless something in the movie alludes to the opposite.

SuBe 01-25-2013 04:25 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
This is why we need a Director's Extended Super Cut of the 2009 film.

Pink Ranger 01-25-2013 06:32 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SuBe (Post 25063125)
This is why we need a Director's Extended Super Cut of the 2009 film.

Ha ha, no way, I have a hard enough time defending all the plot holes in the theatrical version. The Klingon scenes stay cut for a reason!

D.J. Blackmar 02-03-2013 07:21 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pink Ranger (Post 25063905)
Ha ha, no way, I have a hard enough time defending all the plot holes in the theatrical version. The Klingon scenes stay cut for a reason!

Plot holes? In Star Trek?! NEVER! :wow:

redhawk23 02-04-2013 12:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pink Ranger (Post 25063905)
Ha ha, no way, I have a hard enough time defending all the plot holes in the theatrical version. The Klingon scenes stay cut for a reason!

The scenes were more or less cut for pacing and focus reasons, they actually help explain what the hell Nero and co were doing for 30 years.

Pink Ranger 02-04-2013 02:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by redhawk23 (Post 25122555)
The scenes were more or less cut for pacing and focus reasons, they actually help explain what the hell Nero and co were doing for 30 years.

But they also create more things that need explaining; how the Romulans got their ship back after being on a Klingon prison planet for years, as if it was left parked next to Rura Penthe for fun.

I'd find it easier to believe their FTL capability was damaged and it took them a long time to repair it, and that Nero was obsessively waiting for Spock in any event.

Manic 02-12-2013 06:50 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
Well, it's about time we got the Klingons back. Though I will laugh if they take off their forehead-ridged helmets to reveal the "Yellow Peril" Klingons.

Octoberist 02-20-2013 03:26 AM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
Is there a reason why they're wearing helmets? Is related to their 'ridges disorder'?

Picard Sisko 02-20-2013 10:41 AM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Octoberist (Post 25224729)
Is there a reason why they're wearing helmets? Is related to their 'ridges disorder'?

These movies take place relatively close to TOS, where the Klingons did not have ridges. I think Abrams wants to make their design a mystery, but still acknowledging the fact that the Klingons will get ridges at some point (since the helmets have them).

Hypestyle 03-10-2013 11:38 AM

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... so what do the Klingons represent this time around? in TOS, it was more or less the Soviet Union.. now what-- Taliban/Al Qaeda, Iran, North Korea?

Manic 03-10-2013 12:03 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypestyle (Post 25358747)
... so what do the Klingons represent this time around? in TOS, it was more or less the Soviet Union.. now what-- Taliban/Al Qaeda, Iran, North Korea?

Abrams doesn't seem nearly as concerned with socio-political allegory as Roddenberry was, so it's best not to assume they're a metaphor for anything for now.

Pink Ranger 03-10-2013 04:51 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypestyle (Post 25358747)
... so what do the Klingons represent this time around? in TOS, it was more or less the Soviet Union.. now what-- Taliban/Al Qaeda, Iran, North Korea?

I suspect Abrams will lean towards the TNG perception of Klingons, as intergalactic samurai bikers.

thestartrekker 05-02-2013 01:34 PM

Re: The Klingon Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic (Post 25358803)
Abrams doesn't seem nearly as concerned with socio-political allegory as Roddenberry was, so it's best not to assume they're a metaphor for anything for now.

Good Call.
Whats under the mask?
Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Good call, and it appears they do have ridges after all.
http://comicbook.com/wp-content/uplo...o-darkness.jpg


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