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gkokujin 08-24-2011 09:23 AM

Should this Superman kill?
 
i had a thought. We are finally getting to see Superman actually HIT someone...

but how do you think he should deal with these new villains?

Superman_200 08-24-2011 09:49 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
I think he will probably wind up having to kill them if he even can kill them. I think the Phantom Zone will probably not exist in the movie. I think because of the team around the movie, that they would probably like to have something more realistic than the Phantom Zone. Most likely, I would imagine Zod was never imprisoned. That he just left Krypton after he most likely destroyed it and had been following Jor-El's son to Earth.

HighFivingMF 08-24-2011 09:53 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
No.

Spiderman89 08-24-2011 09:56 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
killing? i don`t know but i want to see him FIGHT! Using his fists and legs !

SatEL 08-24-2011 09:56 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
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Originally Posted by gkokujin (Post 21289553)
i had a thought. We are finally getting to see Superman actually HIT someone...

but how do you think he should deal with these new villains?

Hmmmmmmm good question, really hard to decide. I would rather he didn’t kill but a phantom zone gizmo would be to convenient.

fixxxer1022 08-24-2011 09:58 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman_200 (Post 21289681)
I think he will probably wind up having to kill them if he even can kill them. I think the Phantom Zone will probably not exist in the movie. I think because of the team around the movie, that they would probably like to have something more realistic than the Phantom Zone. Most likely, I would imagine Zod was never imprisoned. That he just left Krypton after he most likely destroyed it and had been following Jor-El's son to Earth.


the phantom zone will exist, so will the fortress. my god people. :doh:

LibidoLoca 08-24-2011 10:02 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
I'm a "grey area" person so I say he could if there was no other alternative. But honestly I don't want Supes turning into the Terminator.

MessiahDecoy123 08-24-2011 10:07 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
If anyone would be merciful it would be Clark.

He has Smallville values, remember?

Superman_200 08-24-2011 10:07 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
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Originally Posted by fixxxer1022 (Post 21289753)
the phantom zone will exist, so will the fortress. my god people. :doh:

Personally, I was always more of a fan of Superman in the movies than in comic books. I never have been into comics but the ones I have read, I didn't care for when they involved too many elements of science fiction. I could live with an alien that can do anything since he is an alien. But the Phantom Zone and Fortress never amused me personally, and I (again personally) don't see how the Fortress or the Phantom Zone are relevant to the story. It just seems like it is adding something to the story that makes it geekier when it isn't necessary to have it. The Earth One book didn't have the Fortress and neither did Birthright.

If they want to go more sci-fi in a sequel, I think its okay. Sort of a pushing the geeky sci-fi elements envelope a little further, but for right now, I would keep it as grounded in reality as possible. Superman arrives, and other aliens follow him to Earth. That at least explains their power and his power, and everyone is happy. I don't see how adding the Phantom Zone or Fortress could add anything to the story.

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Originally Posted by MessiahDecoy123 (Post 21289793)
If anyone would be merciful it would be Clark.

He has Smallville values, remember?

He should be merciful, but if they
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indeed kill his parents and
are aliens, it really isn't like he would have much of a choice. And it isn't like there is any law against killing aliens really.

fixxxer1022 08-24-2011 10:09 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman_200 (Post 21289795)
Personally, I was always more of a fan of Superman in the movies than in comic books. I never have been into comics but the ones I have read, I didn't care for when they involved too many elements of science fiction. I could live with an alien that can do anything since he is an alien. But the Phantom Zone and Fortress never amused me personally, and I (again personally) don't see how the Fortress or the Phantom Zone are relevant to the story. It just seems like it is adding something to the story that makes it geekier when it isn't necessary to have it. The Earth One book didn't have the Fortress and neither did Birthright.

If they want to go more sci-fi in a sequel, I think its okay. Sort of a pushing the geeky sci-fi elements envelope a little further, but for right now, I would keep it as grounded in reality as possible. Superman arrives, and other aliens follow him to Earth. That at least explains their power and his power, and everyone is happy. I don't see how adding the Phantom Zone or Fortress could add anything to the story.


no offense but we do not need a realistic/grounded superman flick. what worked for batman will not work for sups. no way no how. if they kill the phantom zone & fortress im gonna be ticked. i already hate the suit and the fact there is no lex. despite nolans involvement i smell another fail.

Llama_Shepherd 08-24-2011 10:09 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
He should never kill. The only time it is acceptable is if the character arc calls for it, like Harvey in The Dark Knight, but he should never kill intentionally.

hopefuldreamer 08-24-2011 10:17 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
N. O.

That spells NO. No, no, no, no, no, no, no!

Just no...

:p

THE MR. TERRIFIC 08-24-2011 10:19 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
No Way.

Lead Cenobite 08-24-2011 10:27 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
Only in a Doomsday-type scenario when there's no other way of dealing with the villain.

afan 08-24-2011 10:29 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
Absolutely not!

Superman_200 08-24-2011 10:37 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lead Cenobite (Post 21289893)
Only in a Doomsday-type scenario when there's no other way of dealing with the villain.

Exactly, I agree with that. But in their case, how would he be able to deal with them? He can't de-power them and then I guess leave them stranded to die or whatever he did with them in Superman II. He either kills them or they have to incorporate someway for him to imprison them. I think a physical Superman is not going to be able to outsmart Zod who would already know about the Phantom Zone if it exists in the movie.

El Payaso 08-24-2011 10:43 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
No. Except if it's a monster or robot that's threatening people.

_Kal-El_ 08-24-2011 10:54 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
No. Not ever. No. Don't kill.
Doomsday is the only possible exception as far as I'm concerned.

Motown Marvel 08-24-2011 11:47 AM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
never.

SuperFerret 08-24-2011 12:02 PM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman_200 (Post 21289795)
And it isn't like there is any law against killing aliens really.

So you'd be just murdering everything if there were no laws against it, huh?

Superman_200 08-24-2011 12:08 PM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
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Originally Posted by SuperFerret (Post 21290507)
So you'd be just murdering everything if there were no laws against it, huh?

That is pretty black and white. There has to be a reason. If something is fighting with you and there is no law against killing it, wouldn't you? He is not killing a human, he is killing something that is killing humans. It would be like if you were getting squeezed by a snake, not bear hugged by a man.

SuperFerret 08-24-2011 12:09 PM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
So even though he's not human, he should put human lives over all others?

Superman_200 08-24-2011 12:16 PM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
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Originally Posted by SuperFerret (Post 21290565)
So even though he's not human, he should put human lives over all others?

Of course, he is protecting his own and the lives of those around him, and his family and friends. A soldier does it, Superman should do it if he has too.

Rodrigo90 08-24-2011 12:18 PM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
A Superman who kills... :l

That would be as stupid as having a Punisher who doesn't kill!!! :hehe:

SuperFerret 08-24-2011 12:18 PM

Re: Should this Superman kill?
 
Superman isn't a soldier, his powers allow him to take alternate routes. (Also, Superman should act more like a police officer than a soldier.) Also, it doesn't make sense for him to put the lives of humans above the lives of others when he himself isn't human.


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