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FeedOnATreeFrog 10-02-2012 04:38 AM

How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Assuming that DoFP establishes two timelines (the original movies and First Class), would you rather see:

A: Wolverine the time-traveller from the original movies.

B: Wolverine from the First Class timeline.

C: No Wolverine


I think "A" and "C" are most appealing. Personally I don't think he should be in it (as he's been the star of 4, soon to be 5, films).

If he had to be in it, I'd prefer "A" over "B". For "B", a rookie Wolverine joining the team again would be a repeat of X1 (but weirder/awkward, especially if young Scott, young Jean are in it (perhaps born earlier due to time-travel butterfly effect or something. We did see Scott/Storm 'cameos' in FC afterall)

I think Wolverine the time-traveller might be more interesting. (Wolverine is a great candidate for the time-traveller, as he would able to live long enough to see the changes he possibly makes).

They could have him trying to right certain wrongs he made (in the original trilogy) regarding the giant threat that destroys the original timeline's future but also his personal decisions. Perhaps he'll be the responsible one, mentoring the hothead teen recruits. Perhaps he'll be the one resistant against Xavier recruiting Jean. Perhaps he'll try to put his other self on a different path.

Two Wolverine's might be complicated though; maybe they'll just keep it simple by having him mind-time-travel instead (occupying his First-Class timeline's body).

def28 10-02-2012 08:29 AM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
They can take this thing so many ways so its a tough call on how they will go about it. Id be cool with him being the time traveler or even if he just has a quick action sequence or two in the Alt Future then is gone the rest of the flick. He should have a presence though.

Wolv's has taken up most the screen time in the franchise, but if they leave him out of this one both Fans and the general audience will ***** about it. Hes one of the few alive in the story. Cant really think of what DOFP would gain from his absence. I mean if Wolverine was absent in the film then that would mean hes dead, and that is something I would want to see happen on screen cause hes pretty much un killable. An offscreen kill for the franchises main star? That would be a huge let down or missed opportunity for the audience. Would have to show him at least die.

X-Maniac 10-02-2012 01:16 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
They should make sure he didn't dominate the show (which he tended to do in X3) and that he was true to character. I wouldn't want to see other characters reduced to non-entities because Wolverine hogged the limelight all the time.

Great Mind(s) 10-02-2012 01:20 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
I wouldn't want ANY of those three choices. Wolverine should be in the future scenes as a non-time traveler and not even that big of a role. Pretty much exactly as it was in the comic.

Duran Man 10-02-2012 05:46 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Alternate future Wolverine should stay in the future; it would be weird seeing old man Logan traipsing around with the X-kids as the time traveler. I don't think 60s Wolverine would figure into anything that would be going on since he's probably still off doing his own thing.

Angamb 10-02-2012 06:30 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
what about...

D: Wolverine in the future. Secondary role.

?

Spider-Fan83 10-02-2012 06:38 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
what if future Wolverine, has to go back in time to kill his young self

completely wiping him out of any of the previous films (including XO:W)

how much of a mind **** would that be lol

psylockolussus 10-02-2012 09:55 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
The best option is letter A.
-No need to reintroduce Wolverine because we already saw him before unlike if they go with the Wolverine from the First Class timeline.
-He was the face of the original trilogy so it just makes sense if he they gave him the time-traveler role.
-If they are going to feature the "future world or timeline", its best that they include the most popular character in the movie series.

marvelrobbins 10-02-2012 10:20 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
wolverine Is most popular X-Man and Hugh Jackman Is Robert Downey JR of X-Men films.
With the third hobbit film opening the same days as DOFP they need all the big guns.
Just because of the disappointment of The Last Stand that doesn't mean they should
leave out WOlverine In the biggest film in Franchise.

If Jackman agrees I see no reason why they wouldn't go with Wolverine as Time Traveler.Since Wolverine Is around In first Class era they can go with the excahnging minds between future and past selves If they want from original comic.Plus seeing
him with other X-Men/X2 cast members and also interacting with james Mcavoy,Michael
Fassbender,and Jennifer Lawrence would be event.

Mrs Vimes 10-02-2012 11:58 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Out of these three options, C. If they make Wolverine the time traveller it will pretty much be a Wolverine show and everyone else will be dancing around him. No thanks to that. In fact if there's a time traveller character at all, I'd like him/her to be a future version of one of the characters in First Class, not someone who has no connection to this young team.

I'd be ok with a brief Wolverine cameo in the future universe with the rest of the original cast.

FeedOnATreeFrog 10-03-2012 04:04 AM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Angamb (Post 24408387)
what about...

D: Wolverine in the future. Secondary role.

?

Right, I forgot about this....somehow

I'd probably pick this one.

X-Maniac 10-03-2012 03:32 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Wolverine in the future hacking at Sentinels is the best option, i think.

ThePowerCosmic 10-03-2012 06:26 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Yeah, give Wolverine something to slice through with his claws. The Sentinel thing works for me.

747 10-06-2012 04:29 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Angamb (Post 24408387)
what about...

D: Wolverine in the future. Secondary role.

?

Exactly, that would be my preference too.

It would feel weird if he wasn't in the future at all.

GREEN =w= DAY 10-06-2012 10:54 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
perhaps just show an older looking Logan with streaks of white hair and a beard in the future chopping up Sentinels

Legion 10-07-2012 03:10 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
It wouldn't be Days of the Future Past if we didn't see future Wolverine's death, that scene is iconic. I also loved in TAS when the sentinels were walking Wolverine and Bishop to dig their own graves and as they pass the X-Men's graves, Wolverine sees Jubilee's tombstone and you can see the anger and grief hit him.

I would also prefer if the time traveler was Rachel Summers or Cable and they made a stop in the "present" to recruit Wolverine and Storm.

Angamb 10-07-2012 03:50 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
mmmm, Wolverines death.... Id like to see that one day, lol

marvelrobbins 10-07-2012 04:52 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
People are deluding themselves If they think Wolverine won't have much of a role.

I will bet the time travler will be returning character.

ciscostudent561 10-14-2012 10:28 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
I liked seeing his skeleton in Forge's water tank thingy that would be cool

henzINNIT 10-15-2012 01:27 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Mind(s) (Post 24406871)
I wouldn't want ANY of those three choices. Wolverine should be in the future scenes as a non-time traveler and not even that big of a role. Pretty much exactly as it was in the comic.

This exactly.

Logan's role in the comic was great, would love to see Hugh as the older renegade. I'd prefer someone else do the time-travelling though. Still voting Rogue.

Scarlet Spider 10-21-2012 11:20 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Just like the comic (and TAS). One of the last mutant freedom fighters left, in the post-apocalyptic future.

His iconic death scene is a must:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsall...04/death01.jpg

JP 10-21-2012 11:31 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenReilly (Post 24505959)
Just like the comic (and TAS). One of the last mutant freedom fighters left, in the post-apocalyptic future.

His iconic death scene is a must:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsall...04/death01.jpg


Yup.

henzINNIT 10-22-2012 02:38 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
It would be one hell of a missed opportunity if the film doesn't use this rare chance to kill Wolverine in some explosive way.

It's also a case where a big Wolverine set-piece is totally appropriate.

conan69 10-22-2012 06:09 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
^ Shows the changes they made to Wolverine character as he became more popular over the years.

That he aged normally, and could be killed by fire.

gkokujin 10-22-2012 06:34 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenReilly (Post 24505959)
Just like the comic (and TAS). One of the last mutant freedom fighters left, in the post-apocalyptic future.

His iconic death scene is a must:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsall...04/death01.jpg

I'd rather see this first. get it and him out the way.

The Infernal 10-22-2012 07:10 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
I think he should have a substantial role, but he shouldn't be the main star. I hope future Wolverine will at least be there, but I'm wondering if we'll see present Wolverine. I would like to see the possible future Wolverine die in a spectacular way, it would help push the point of how bad things have got in the future.

Also I would like it if future Wolverine resembled the one from the Wolverine tie-in game (which had scenes set in a future like DoFP).


Hypestyle 10-22-2012 10:19 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
hmm... back then it was possible to kill Wolverine by incineration. Curious. Even Nitro couldn't do that.

magneto23 10-23-2012 12:48 AM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Minimal role. Give him a few action sequences with the sentinels and that's about it. The story will be taking place with the First Class characters and that doesn't leave a lot of screen time for Wolverine IMO.

bhayes 10-27-2012 05:56 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
i have a good idea. make ellen page (shadowcat) the time traveler. show wolverine dying in the future just like in the comic at the hands of sentienls. since colossus and storm are around in x3 they can be resistance fighters and it can be similar to the comic.

angel, ice-man, rogue, beast and some of the morlocks get cameos because they are resistance fighters too along with magneto.

they can highlight that the cure weapon doesn't have lasting affects which could explain magneto having his powers back.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YhZ1OXhYrmE/0.jpg

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/...en-610x291.jpg


so ellen page travels back and meets with xavier and the team but midway thru the film ellen page convinces xavier that they have to enlist wolverine to help stop the preventable event. and they get the wolverine from the first class cameo.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qPxWNNhiEL...firstclass.jpg


but the trick is this is the same "bone claws" wolverine we saw in the WWII cameo from The Wolverine. thus connecting it to The Wolverine film.

http://images.hitfix.com/photos/2422...story_main.jpg

but during the final battle wolverine gets his bone claws damaged or ripped out/crushed and he ends up claw-less

they could reintroduce a proper william stryker with a southern accent like in x2. he brings his son jason to the school for the gifted they way xavier says he did in x2.

william stryker is a millitary leader and he sees wolverine fighting and sees his potential and he meets up with stryker and learns about adamantium. when the fighting is over the first class crew tells wolverine that they need him on the team but logan decides to work with stryker instead.

but this 70's wolverine is more bad ass and is meaner. He's the bad ass that stryker hints that he is in x2.

After its over xavier tries to recruit wolverine but wolverine decides to sign on with stryker and do black ops missions.

but this is a good way to erase orgins and just have dialogue that establishes the fact that the timeline is that x-men1 - the wolverine is its own timeline. similar to star trek reboot where they establish that the new timeline and old timelines are different.

and first class is its own trilogy

but that orgins is some kind of bad dream

and i think they need to establish that first class timeline is an alternate past and the xmen triliogy/the wolverine is an alternate parallel future.

ciscostudent561 04-25-2013 02:05 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gkokujin (Post 24510689)
I'd rather see this first. get it and him out the way.

amen, if only

Super Jim 04-25-2013 04:27 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
I would like to see the movie start off in the post X3 present. Wolverine has accepted his role in helping to keep Xavier's dream alive. He's working with Storm (the leader), Colossus, Iceman, Kitty and Rogue (who's powers are back). Xavier is not there and the whole Charle's mind in his comatose twin brother concept is not even mentioned (because I don't want to throw up in my mouth again)...

Rogue and Bobby have still not been able to get together because of her powers. They were able to spend a couple of months together after she took the cure, but that wore off and ever since it's been the same old thing. Rogue is jealous of the relationship that has formed between Colossus and Kitty as well. And after she sees them kissing she gets upset and goes to one of the newer members of the X-men, Forge. She begs him to invent something that will allow her and Bobby to be together. Not something that will take away her powers, just control them...

He creates an inhibitor collar. They have an implied intimate scene together (at least kissing)...

One day, while out and about (with the collar on) Rogue is attacked. She removes the collar so she can fight. Both she and Bobby fight as best as they can. but they are not doing well. A new mutant joins in the fight, stepping in front of an energy blast saving her. The villain, seeing the collar, realizes what it is and grabs it (or maybe he was sent for it). He then grabs Bobby and drains his powers, opens a timewarp and jumps in. The new mutant jumps in before it closes. The present changes around them and we see Professor Xavier at either an internment camp or a rebel base pause while he realizes that something ain't right...

1972 - Vietnam

A gun fight is in process. A native-American soldier orders his men to retreat. As he turns to run an enemy combatant comes forward and raises his weapon. Another soldier jumps in front of the other and takes the shot in the chest, saving the man. At he falls back his helmet falls off and the 6 razor sharp knives protruding from his arms pull from the enemy, who falls over dead. The Native-American soldier comes to his aid, right when an enemy granade lands at their feet. It explodes sending both men flying. The Wolverine slams against a nearby tree and lands in a heap. His burned skin heals almost immediately. He goes over to help the other soldier who is obviosuly much worse off. Picking up his fallen comrade he calls out for a medic...

The changed future

A young mutant girl is running from something. Fires envelope buildings in the distance. She hears a noise and ducks against the side of a building. Three large robots fly overhead. She continues on and turns a corner. A large robot Sentinal lands in from of her and raises his hand towards her. A round sensor in the hand starts to radiate energy. But before it can fire it pauses. The young girl sees metal claws rip throught the robot's torso. He jumps down, using his claws against the robots legs to slow his descent. The robot tilts over destroyed. He tells the girl to follow him, and he takes her to the rebel's hideout...

Anyway, you can see where I'm going. Since the character is already in both times, he shouldn't be timetraveling. Just a little bit in the past, in Vietnam, since that is what the 70's were about, but a bigger role in the changed future. Maybe he leads a team to free a captured mutant from an internment camp, one with the power to teleport through time (Blink?). Maybe he has to free Xavier from the sentinal controlled internment camp. Maybe it is Forge (an older version with a robotic leg and arm)...

SuperT 04-25-2013 04:56 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
I just really hope he's not the time traveler, other than that I'm fine with whatever else they do with him.

They HAVE to show him getting blown to smithereens by the Sentinels though - that's just such an iconic moment from this storyline. Not to mention it really would drive home how dire the future is if Wolverine can't even survive.

lastairbender 04-25-2013 06:44 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
I want him to finally wear some kind of costume and mask. It will probably be the last time we will see him.. :(

Mad Ones 04-25-2013 06:45 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Some action scenes would be fine. I just hope they don't make the clutch of the movie like he usually is.

GuestStar2004 04-25-2013 06:54 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
i'm betting wolverine,storm,iceman,kitty,rogue and colossus will time travel

after all the 70s stuff can't work with just Xavier,mystique,beast and magneto

really there is no need to give wolverine a big role in this film, doing so won't guarantee it to a good film, give him a decent amount of screentime and add it to the trailers, done!, it worked with cyclops in X3 =P

GuestStar2004 04-25-2013 06:57 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lastairbender (Post 25696505)
I want him to finally wear some kind of costume and mask. It will probably be the last time we will see him.. :(

nah if they make an X4 then he will be back and if he makes another wolverine movie, which is possible, his solo trilogy :P

they might make him wear the mask at some point but its more of a comicbook thing and not something that would make sense on screen

GuestStar2004 04-25-2013 07:00 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
i doubt wolverine will have grey in his hair, he has looked the same since the 60s =p

SuperT 04-25-2013 07:07 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GuestStar2004 (Post 25696583)
i'm betting wolverine,storm,iceman,kitty,rogue and colossus will time travel

I doubt that many will travel - that would just be too much and would make the future scenes useless because no one would be in them. Not to mention you just know some of the big wigs that you named are certainly going to bite it at some point to add drama.

If I had to guess, I would say max two to three of them will travel and with us knowing that Blink and Bishop are in this, I have a hunch it'll be those two so they're able to focus on the returning characters while giving some shine to the newcomers.

psylockolussus 04-25-2013 08:43 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Hopefully he'll get the same screentime with Rogue, Iceman, Colossus, Storm, Shadowcat and Bishop. Its time we see a balanced screentime for all of the X-Men.

storyteller 04-25-2013 09:26 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
After the Events of the Wolverine and he is not the main character. He should be like Cyclops and have like 5 minutes of screen time.

psylockolussus 04-25-2013 09:31 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
LOL! Thats not gonna happen. He's the poster boy of this series. You do that and you would disappoint most of the general viewers who are only familiar with Wolverine.

ThePowerCosmic 04-25-2013 11:09 PM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Wasn't too crazy about it before, but I'm pretty excited to see where Logan's character is taken after The Wolverine.

Norek 04-26-2013 03:27 AM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
The thing I'm most interested about this is how the events of The Wolverine connect to the post-X3 timeline in Days of Future Past. We haven't seen the film yet, but I'm curious if they're even going to make a slight effort to connect them somehow.

X-Maniac 04-26-2013 04:20 AM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Norek (Post 25699243)
The thing I'm most interested about this is how the events of The Wolverine connect to the post-X3 timeline in Days of Future Past. We haven't seen the film yet, but I'm curious if they're even going to make a slight effort to connect them somehow.

I hope they do so. It would be an ideal opportunity to tease DoFP.

Marvel almost always does this sort of thing with a post-credits scene (except for the okay-but-not-that-exciting Iron Man 3, where you have to wait through 10 minutes of credits for something that's not worth it).

Norek 04-26-2013 06:41 AM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-Maniac (Post 25699343)
I hope they do so. It would be an ideal opportunity to tease DoFP.

Marvel almost always does this sort of thing with a post-credits scene (except for the okay-but-not-that-exciting Iron Man 3, where you have to wait through 10 minutes of credits for something that's not worth it).

Haven't seen IM3 yet, so I can't comment, but an after-credits scene for The Wolverine would be great. Even if it's something subtle as Wolverine waking up from a loud noise or some disturbance, walking out and looking up to something in the sky that throws a large shadow over him - or just something that connects to DOFP in any way to let us know where exactly does it fall in the overall timeline.

GuestStar2004 04-26-2013 08:21 AM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
really wolverine could get away with a reduced role for DOFP because the fact he just came off his own solo film a year earlier, not saying 5 min of screen time but also not say lead save the day at end role. just a role within whats going on in the story along with the other Xmen

singer has said he believes there is more life in the franchise then just wolverine so be interesting to see what happens

marvelrobbins 04-26-2013 10:11 AM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
I think Blink will transport him,Kitty,herself,and possibly Xavier to 1973.

GuestStar2004 04-26-2013 10:23 AM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marvelrobbins (Post 25700271)
I think Blink will transport him,Kitty,herself,and possibly Xavier to 1973.

Why would wolverine need to be the time traveler though? are we saying the time travelers will get more screentime then the other future Xmen? but then why are there so many future cast?, if the film switches back and forth then it seems like wolverine will get the same amount of screentime either way, but if we are saying once they go to the past we don't see no more of the future then i still have to ask why are there so many of the future cast to give screentime too

Wolverine could stay in the future and fight sentinals, pehaps better off then being in the 70s doing.. whatever, its not gonna be anything new for him after all we seen him in a bar in the 60s so doesn't seem like anything really special for him to do.

it seems like your saying his the most loved Xman so he will be the time traveler, not that it there is anything there for him.

if it turns out once they go to the past we see no more of the future stuff then im guessing there will be more then 3 time travelers.

SuperT 04-26-2013 10:26 AM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
They can certainly switch back and forth between the future and the past just like they did in the comics which is why I think Bishop and Blink will travel back in time.

That way, with those two in the past it'll feel like two new characters added to the First Class team with the story split between 1973 & the future where the returning cast members still get screen time. If you keep Blink and Bishop in the future, they would most certainly get swamped underneath the returning cast members. As I said, this way it gives them character development and importance to the story if they are the time travelers.

That makes the most sense to me.

marvelrobbins 04-26-2013 10:43 AM

Re: How should they handle Wolverine in this movie? (if he had to be in it..)
 
1:Omar Sy starts another film In late may.Bishop will only be In future scenes
most likely with that schedule
2:They are unlikely to transport most of cast from future to past to face only
Magneto and Mystique In 1973
3:Transporting the biggest star of series and most popular X-Man to past makes
sense In Fox's answer to the Avengers.It allows crossover between casts of
Trilogy and First Class.

Adding characters to First Class world Isn't their priority In this film.
You have 8 characters from trilgoy vs 4 from first Class.Plus you added 4 to
OT characters.This Is more X4 than First Class 2.


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