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Baneis8feettall 07-20-2012 12:00 PM

Re: The Dark Knight Rises Critic Review Thread
 
I'm not saying they should be avid fan of comics. But they must know what's Batman and what makes a good Batman movie. And you gotta know it.

Same goes for any book adaptation. If you go to the Shining, you can't criticize the movie because it has supernatural elements. It's based best seller book.


They can criticize the story,storytelling,direction and all..but they can't criticize Batman being grim. That's ignorance. It's a character known as grim. Just because a critic don't like grim characters, doesn't give him right to bash the movie because it represent the character faithfully.

Batman is a comic book movie. It's not something totally new. It's 70 years of legacy. If they don't like darker superheroes, it shouldn't effect their review. They may hate the movie but can't say it's bad because it has darker tone.

Majority of audience is Batman fans. Not hardcore maybe, but still they know most of the characters, at least Batman. Then comic book movies fans.Then action fans. Then others.

Baneis8feettall 07-20-2012 12:17 PM

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If i criticize LOTR movie because hobbits aren't sexy and trees are talking.. that makes me ignorant or a dumbass. Eighter i don't know LOTR is an adaptation and criticize main characters for what they suppose to be.

Of course it's still has to be good movie general. That's not what they criticize. They are giving their personal taste about characters and giving a negative note for it.

Can you criticize Peter Parker for being socially awkward? No. That's who he is. Just because a critic doesn't like awkward people, he can't has right the bash the movie because main character is faithful to main source of the movie.

Bat-fan 07-21-2012 04:14 AM

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Nowadays everyone can write a film critic on the internet, it's no big deal, I usually read critics by "professionals" after having seen a film because they often contain too many spoilers and even if the majority of the reviewers finds it a good film it does not necessarily mean that I'll agree with them since something like an "objective critic" simply doesn't exist.
Professional critics are usually more profound and provide more film facts, they are written in a more sophisticated language which makes them appear more serious than those of ordinary writers.
I think that the film producers are interested in the attendance figures anyway and it's questionable whether film critics have such a big influence on them, a good trailer has much more impact on the viewers decision of wanting to watch it.

Minus Shock 07-21-2012 07:21 AM

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Wow this debate is still going on :P. I am saying after seeing the movie, in the Marathon mind you, I could care less what anyone's opinion of the movie is. I am content with knowing that I have seen something so special on screen that I will likely never see again.

TomPiltoff 07-21-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Baneis8feettall (Post 23923567)
I'm not saying they should be avid fan of comics. But they must know what's Batman and what makes a good Batman movie. And you gotta know it.

There is no single answer to what makes a good Batman movie, that's the whole point.

By the way, are you still going to defend the people who sent death threats to reviewers?

Baneis8feettall 07-21-2012 07:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TomPiltoff (Post 23937541)
There is no single answer to what makes a good Batman movie, that's the whole point.

By the way, are you still going to defend the people who sent death threats to reviewers?

I have never defend death threats :whatever: Also if you are implying what happened it colorado, that's nothing to do with it.

There is nothing wrong to criticize anyone unprofessional in their jobs. If critics can't handle with cricitism, that's quite hypocrisy.

Making a good movie while being faithful to source enough. Like any other movie adaptation. Especially if it's as well known as Batman.

TomPiltoff 07-22-2012 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Baneis8feettall (Post 23942293)
There is nothing wrong to criticize anyone unprofessional in their jobs. If critics can't handle with cricitism, that's quite hypocrisy.

Right, but I'm not arguing against the idea of writing in to critics. My issue is with this particular instance - people writing in angry about a review to a movie they haven't seen. You're defending that and trying to make it comparable to 'Roger, I saw Batman last weekend and I really disagree with your review and here are the reasons why...'

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baneis8feettall (Post 23942293)
Making a good movie while being faithful to source enough.

Faithful to source? Which source? You mean the first Batman issues where he killed people? Or maybe the first appearance of Robin, the kid sidekick?

Again, my point - there is no one correct idea of Batman. Different writers have done different things with him in the comics the same way Nolan is doing his own unique take in his movies.

Dannyboy3D 07-22-2012 12:26 PM

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It comes down to this...

WATCH TDKR & BE YOUR OWN CRITIC. IT'S THE BEST FILM I HAVE EVER SEEN!

Keyser Soze 07-23-2012 07:29 AM

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A great review from the always-insightful Mark Kermode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58FU_yQYqhc


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