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MessiahDecoy123 06-03-2011 08:28 AM

Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
X2 is generally considered the best X-men movie.

Does First Class top it?

mightiest_mortal 06-03-2011 08:35 AM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
X2 I'd say. Still love that film. Just a shame Cyclops couldnt have had a larger role than just being a puppet.

So many characters had a chance, not just to shine, but to be completely badass.
Nightcrawlers opening, Wolverines fight in the mansion, Magnetos escape from the prison. All these moments were EPIC and though I love FC, even its best action scenes didnt touch on them.

kedrell 06-03-2011 08:36 AM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
I won't vote yet because really it's still up in the air for me.

X-Maniac 06-03-2011 09:07 AM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mightiest_mortal (Post 20495239)
X2 I'd say. Still love that film. Just a shame Cyclops couldnt have had a larger role than just being a puppet.

So many characters had a chance, not just to shine, but to be completely badass.
Nightcrawlers opening, Wolverines fight in the mansion, Magnetos escape from the prison. All these moments were EPIC and though I love FC, even its best action scenes didnt touch on them.

The 'formula' Bryan used for X2 (and X1 also) is different from Vaughn's approach.

Singer interspersed his films with long, focused action scenes that put the spotlight on one character and their abilities, which is why such scenes are memorable for fans I guess.

I watched X2 the other night and some parts now look dated, but it's still very well paced and constructed.

It's hard for me to choose, and for me to rank the X-films, because each has something to offer....

ciscostudent561 06-03-2011 09:09 AM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
First class and it wasn't even close.

Ipodman 06-03-2011 09:16 AM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
I like First Class a lot... but I'll have to go for X2 as a better piece of cinema

antonydelfini 06-03-2011 10:34 AM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
X2 is just better directed. It also has better supporting characters. Although I'll give First Class a better and cooler Prof X and Magneto, which I did not expect at all.

First Class: 7/10
X2: 8/10

J.Howlett 06-03-2011 10:41 AM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
X2 and as antonydelfini said, it's just a better directed film. In Vaughn's defense, he didn't really have time but X2 action sequences are more focused and more accessible than Vaughn's, even though Vaughn's got some stunners in his film. At the end of the day, not one action sequence matches Nightcrawler's havoc at the White House.

But, First Class is not that far behind X2. I mean, different choices in a couple of spots and tighter continuity and it would've surpassed X2.

Still, under the time frame Vaughn and company had, it's a down right miracle this film works as well as it does and it REALLY works.

MARVEL ROCKS 06-03-2011 10:58 AM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
So fanboys don't really like this as much as the critics?

Is it safe to assume this won't have the good legs which fox is hoping for?

Also, the midnight numbers are slightly lower than Thor which is NOT good because this is an established franchise. It seems the X Men fanbase has been polarized after X3 and Wolverine.There are people who will refuse to see any more Fox made X Men films.

All I have to say is don't complain if fox goes back to its old ways of making bad comic book movies.

Tony Stark 06-03-2011 11:19 AM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
As I said in my review, this movie was too hamstrung by trying to fit in with the others instead of being the true reboot that it wanted to be. The other problem is that the ending in First Class just isn't quite up to snuff as X2 was. Things were a bit too rushed in First Class.

However for someone that would say FC is better, I can certainly understand the reasoning. There's alot of good there, and whatever flaws it has, there certainly were flaws in X2.

The good thing is both are light years better than X3 and Wolverine.

JP 06-03-2011 11:33 AM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
X2.

Rac 06-03-2011 12:21 PM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
As much as I liked FC, X2 is a tad bit better with its pacing.

SuperSoldier985 06-03-2011 12:36 PM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
I will be brutally honest and say that althought there were some great action numbers in this movie, none compare to the feeling and the intensity that I felt of Nightcrawler's attack in X2 or even the Mansion invasion sequence. There were some scenes that came very very close, though.

When I walked out of the theater, I had a somewhat mixed feeling about the movie, I felt that it was good, but it might take some time for me to compare it to X2 head-on, as I've had nearly 8 years of memory and span of time enjoying X2 for what it is today.

If I was at gun point and had to make a decision, I'll say that X2 is a solid A- movie and XMFC is a strong B+. That of course might change over the next few weeks...

Stringer 06-03-2011 12:40 PM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
X2 has always been the most overrated CBM ever to me. FC easily tops it IMO.

JP 06-03-2011 12:41 PM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
First Class is a close second.

flash13 06-03-2011 01:05 PM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
I like X2 but I could never get over the lack of Cyclops. I enjoyed First Class more.

conaniscool 06-03-2011 01:41 PM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
Singer is a terrible director.

Also, during the climax of X2, all the mutants in the world were about to be killed off. Yet, we never see anything. There's no sense of danger or epicness to it.

The score in X2 was terrible as well. And Singer never really had the X-men fight as a team, or use there powers in any spectacularly cool way. It was just a waste all around.

X2 was basically X1 with a bigger budget. There was no new character revelations or anything, other than of course for Wolverine...

Havok83 06-03-2011 01:51 PM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
Definetyl X2

SuperSoldier985 06-03-2011 01:55 PM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conaniscool (Post 20497927)
Singer is a terrible director.

Also, during the climax of X2, all the mutants in the world were about to be killed off. Yet, we never see anything. There's no sense of danger or epicness to it.

The score in X2 was terrible as well. And Singer never really had the X-men fight as a team, or use there powers in any spectacularly cool way. It was just a waste all around.

X2 was basically X1 with a bigger budget. There was no new character revelations or anything, other than of course for Wolverine...

somebody gonna get ahurt real bad

akfj 06-03-2011 02:00 PM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
Both are great, but I went with X2. X2 just feels a little more X-Men-ish to me.

tedw 06-03-2011 02:08 PM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conaniscool (Post 20497927)
Singer never really had the X-men fight as a team, or use there powers in any spectacularly cool way. It was just a waste all around.

Really? Even if you do still prefer XMFC, you honestly don't think Nightcrawler's attack on the White House was cool? :wow:

ThisYearsGuy 06-03-2011 02:14 PM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
X2 without hesitation or doubt!

psylockolussus 06-03-2011 03:21 PM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
X2

XFC is great but c'mon its not really about X-Men, its the origin of Professor X and Magneto. And the characters in X2 were all treated almost equally.

marvelrobbins 06-03-2011 05:04 PM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
X2.First Class Is great.I put It better than X-Men.But X2 Is slightly better.

Oh,and for the record the midnight showing of First Class Is slightly higher than Thor.

kedrell 06-03-2011 05:06 PM

Re: Which is better: X2 or First Class?
 
But Thor's legs are gonna be hard to beat.


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