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spider-neil 03-16-2009 06:40 PM

Hulk vs Thor
 
am I the only one who as bitterly disappointed how thor was handled?

TheCorpulent1 03-17-2009 09:17 AM

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Nope. I thought Hulk vs. Thor was one of the biggest disappointments Marvel's ever put out because the story and the presentation of Asgard were decent, but the whole thing was ruined by how utterly pathetic they made Thor.

TheOriginalman 03-17-2009 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1 (Post 16609871)
Nope. I thought Hulk vs. Thor was one of the biggest disappointments Marvel's ever put out because the story and the presentation of Asgard were decent, but the whole thing was ruined by how utterly pathetic they made Thor.

I personally think that it should have been more of a fight, and like both characters. I'm not really saying that Thor should have won. It's just that Thor is one that would make the Hulk work hard for his win.

TheCorpulent1 03-17-2009 12:58 PM

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That's what I meant about Thor being pathetic. Sure, Thor can lose to the Hulk; that's fine. Just don't make it such a ridiculously one-sided match. There was never once a point in any of their big fight scenes where I thought, "Holy crap, Thor might actually win!" The Hulk completely dominated him every time and that, frankly, just ruins the whole thing because it takes what should be an exciting fight between two equals and makes it a boring, predictable bully scenario. Sure, Thor's gonna keep fighting, but it's very clear throughout the movie that he stands no real chance whatsoever.

spider-neil 03-17-2009 04:18 PM

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exactly. hulk was always going to win but make it close for pete's sake.

lowly marvelite 03-25-2009 10:33 PM

Re: Hulk vs Thor
 
Yep...another inexplicable loss for the God of Thunder. Heck, Wolverine who has no superhuman strength fared better than Thor did...when is Marvel gonna give Thor any respect?

Panthro 05-23-2009 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lowly marvelite (Post 16654397)
Yep...another inexplicable loss for the God of Thunder. Heck, Wolverine who has no superhuman strength fared better than Thor did...when is Marvel gonna give Thor any respect?

It's kind of a Batman/Superman situation, isn't it? The considerably less powerful but more popular "bad ass loner" gets to hold his own better than the more powerful but less popular hero. It's similar to watching Superman get pummeled by a D-list character.

And it was ridiculous how those fights were handled. Sure, Thor took initiative in the 2nd fight, but the tide still turned against him too easily. Thor's supposed to be one of the few heroes who can really go toe-to-toe with the Hulk & not get completely bulldozered right off the bat. Hell, even his girlfriend Sif handled herself better right before Hulk body slammed her. I think Asgard as a whole should have put up a better fight. Sure Hulk is Hulk, but Asgard is loaded with immortal warriors who were fighting inhuman monsters long before Hulk's alter ego Bruce Banner was even born.

TheCorpulent1 05-23-2009 10:10 AM

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Except Superman is popular enough that he still comes out on top against those D-listers most of the time. He may not make it look as effortless as Batman, but he gets it done. Thor seems to get his ass kicked almost every time he fights anyone (although that may just be my natural cynicism coloring my perspective).

OnedetachedonE 05-24-2009 02:21 AM

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I wish Marvel would hire back Stan Lee to write Thor, then he'd be written the way he's supposed to be written...as the most powerful superhero of all time. Ever.

Panthro 05-24-2009 09:51 PM

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You know it's funny, Balder was voiced by Michael Adamthwaite, and he voiced Thor for about a minute & a half in that "Next Avengers" flick, as well as Namor the Sub-Mariner for 2 episodes of "Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes". I wonder if they weren't happy with his Thor from NA...

So, what did you all think of Graham McTavish as Loki's voice, Kari Wahlgren as Amora & Grey DeLisle as Sif?

Vartha 05-25-2009 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1 (Post 16961387)
Except Superman is popular enough that he still comes out on top against those D-listers most of the time. He may not make it look as effortless as Batman, but he gets it done. Thor seems to get his ass kicked almost every time he fights anyone (although that may just be my natural cynicism coloring my perspective).

No Thor's been shafted plenty of times.
HOPEFULLY that'll change after the movie.

Ace of Knaves 05-25-2009 04:29 AM

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Yea Hulk literally pissed all over Thor, that shouldn't be happening.

I'm not a big fan of either character, and my knowledge of them isn't great, but I know that Thor should be able to put up a much, much better fight than that.

And yea Wolverine getting Hulk down onto his knees at one point was just ridiculous...

Panthro 05-25-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ace of Knaves (Post 16967448)
Yea Hulk literally pissed all over Thor, that shouldn't be happening.

I'm not a big fan of either character, and my knowledge of them isn't great, but I know that Thor should be able to put up a much, much better fight than that.

And yea Wolverine getting Hulk down onto his knees at one point was just ridiculous...

Tell me about it, and he didn't even slash out Hulk's knees either. If he'd at least slashed old Jade Jaws at the knees, I could have bought it. But two slashes in the chest & Hulk's on his knees? That's bull****.

TheCorpulent1 05-26-2009 08:50 AM

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I chalk it up to Kyle and Yost being primarily X-Men writers.

Ace of Knaves 05-26-2009 01:34 PM

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Well it did look like Wolvie stabbed him in the heart area. Can Hulk's heart be pierced? Does he even have a heart?

But still, he shouldn't be able to put Hulk on his knees.

Rich Santoro 05-29-2009 06:23 PM

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Ahah... here is where I can b!+ch about that DVD...

The way Thor got dealth with was a HUGE disappointment. I got my family to sit down and watch, and my wife asked, "Who is stronger." I said that Hulk might be actually stronger, but Thor is more powerful. He can fly, and hurl lightning, conjure storms... I said, "I would pick Thor in squeaker."

Then when Hulk smacked him around, she was looking at me like, "You don't know what the hell you are talking about."

TheCorpulent1 05-31-2009 02:39 PM

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That's what annoys me the most about this sort of thing in movies. Everyone and their mother who's never picked up a comic now thinks that Thor is a pussy that the Hulk could easily stomp all over, even though they did at one point have an actual, exciting rivalry where their battles could go either way.

Panthro 05-31-2009 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1 (Post 16995128)
That's what annoys me the most about this sort of thing in movies. Everyone and their mother who's never picked up a comic now thinks that Thor is a pussy that the Hulk could easily stomp all over, even though they did at one point have an actual, exciting rivalry where their battles could go either way.

Strikes fear into your heart for what the future will hold in the Avengers film when Thor will have to go toe to toe with the movie Hulk, doesn't it?

Rich Santoro 06-01-2009 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Panthro (Post 16996166)
Strikes fear into your heart for what the future will hold in the Avengers film when Thor will have to go toe to toe with the movie Hulk, doesn't it?

Yes... it does...

TheCorpulent1 06-01-2009 10:41 AM

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Not really. I expect it now.

Lobo 06-01-2009 09:08 PM

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Well, HOPEFULLY, if they use the Hulk/Loki plot for Avengers live action, they'll have Hulk taking on all Avengers and winning, UNTIL Thor arrives, at which point things start to go in their favor, as he stands toe to toe with Hulk, and at the least stalemates him, while the team as a whole brings him down.

Rich Santoro 06-02-2009 12:16 AM

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That would be great... It allows some to draw the conclusion that Hulk was still stronger since the rest of the team had to intervene... others may think that Thor could have ended it, and the rest of the team ended the fight too early... That kind of speculation is always good for a hook and plot device.

JerseyJoker 06-04-2009 05:30 PM

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Hulk vs. was made so Deadpool's greatness could steal the show. -_-

Panthro 06-06-2009 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1 (Post 16971795)
I chalk it up to Kyle and Yost being primarily X-Men writers.

Delayed response I know, but yeah, that could be one of the reasons for Thor's poor showing here.

Well, of Thor's showings in the DTVs so far, which would you say gave him the best character design -

http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/o...-4-9-5/152.jpg
Ultimate Avengers Thor

http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/o...eardedThor.jpg
Avengers Next Thor

http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/o...ingOutThor.jpg
Hulk Vs. Thor

Rich Santoro 06-07-2009 10:44 PM

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HvT


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