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The Overlord 04-12-2009 11:05 AM

Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
If Wolverine was Canadian why would he fight in the American Civil War and the Vietnam war?

chaseter 04-12-2009 12:27 PM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
Here is the funny thing, he says a line in the movie concerning his heritage when 20 minutes earlier we saw him in those wars. Just another thing the movie did not explain.

Deadpool876 04-14-2009 08:37 AM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
I wondered about that too; maybe he's a dual-citizen. lol

Wesley Dodds 04-14-2009 08:38 AM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
Euucch! SO now Logan aint even full-Canadian anymore?

Is there anything this movie actually did get right?

King K 04-14-2009 08:58 AM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
I interpreted that Logan simply followed Creed to every war to look out for him.

TNC9852002 04-15-2009 08:27 PM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
lol. I like how people want to immediately jump on this as some kind of huge and glaring movie issue. Some things,...just don't need much time for exploration.


So then, what was the comic explanation?

xwolverine2 04-15-2009 08:29 PM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
...who cares.

lol

night0205 04-15-2009 08:31 PM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
Maybe Wolverine and Sabretooth like war...they are good at it, and considering if I wanted to fight in World War II, i'd fight with USA. But also, just because he thinks he's canadian after his memory loss...doesn't really mean he is. And also, with someone who doesn't age much, he might "be" canadian just because he lived there a long time....

RachelDawes 04-15-2009 08:49 PM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
Is he hard to kill even before he's given admantium? If I were that tough, that long-lived, and that good at fighting I might go to war too.

chaseter 04-15-2009 09:12 PM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by night0205 (Post 16764928)
Maybe Wolverine and Sabretooth like war...they are good at it, and considering if I wanted to fight in World War II, i'd fight with USA. But also, just because he thinks he's canadian after his memory loss...doesn't really mean he is. And also, with someone who doesn't age much, he might "be" canadian just because he lived there a long time....

If they like war and they like killing people then that is another plot hole that comes up in about the first 15 minutes.

Plus...this is all before his memory loss. He knows he is Canadian and doesn't do something because he is Canadian but willingly fought in America's wars...just sloppy writing or bad editing.

TNC9852002 04-15-2009 09:28 PM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
:facepalm

It's all about how you look at it.

Ratcrawler 04-15-2009 09:34 PM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
I recall in X-Men Evolution when Logan fought alongside Cap America, he was part of Canadian sPecial forces or something.

Yeah, they're just naturally drawn to conflict. If America's at war, they want in on the action. Sabretooth loves killing people. Wolverine loves killing bad people.

night0205 04-15-2009 09:45 PM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
During the Civil War, what else is there to do? The guys don't die, they heal whatever happens, and they love to fight like animals. I don't think it's that big of plot hole...you have no idea what the story was for a hundred years. Maybe they had their reasons, doesn't mean it's a plot hole. Plus, if you think about it, if you love war, wouldn't you want to be involved in some of the greatest wars in world's history...they would be legendary, which is a reason why Stryker probably found out about them.

night0205 04-15-2009 09:48 PM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
He doesn't kill innocent...but doesn't mind acting like an animal to soldiers, evil people...yeah that sounds like Wolverine to me.

chaseter 04-15-2009 10:17 PM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
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Originally Posted by TNC9852002 (Post 16765240)
:facepalm

It's all about how you look at it.

I don't close my eyes or ears so I look at it with common sense. It would have been perfectly fine had they added dialogue as to why he fought in those wars if he is Canadian...it doesn't do that. Simple things like that which can be easily fixed aren't and they add up in this film. When he says a line 15 minutes into the movie then you wonder why he was doing what he was doing. This is like with X3 when we wonder how Magneto and his army traveled across the country within a couple of hours. Just little details that are fine if they are few and far between but they added up in X3 and they add up in this movie.

night0205 04-15-2009 10:29 PM

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I'm not following.... He doesn't kill innocents...did something change? And the reason they show they where in the war is obvious...they are fighters, and they are old, and they love to fight...i don't get what is so confusing about this? A movie doesn't explain areas that they don't want to focus on...I don't have any problem with them not explaining why they were in war, even though I see it as really obvious. If you want to add that into dialog, when it's so obvious, it just dumbs more things down, and you have to focus the whole scene on that, and you have to say it in the right way so mixes right into the movie, it's a waste of time.... Movies aren't supose to explain everything, then there is no mystery...no curiousity, that will help you sit through the next 2 hours. Only fanboys crucify a movie for not explaining something, because then they think it contradicts something, or maybe it's not logical...or bad writting...there is bad writting in this movie, but the beginning was in my opinion the best. The war was the one thing that I felt was defining our characters, showing us who wolverine and sabretooth really are...they are fighters, soldiers, and yes killers. Best part of the movie. This isn't dark knight...if Wolverine met Joker, he'd cut his head off.

chaseter 04-15-2009 10:31 PM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
I can't post any more or it will be spoilers. I know they love to fight, did you not see what I wrote? I am not talking about their love of fighting, I am talking about a line Wolverine says to Stryker that contradicts all of that.

If you talk about dumbing things down...well then this is pretty dumbed down:o It is near void of intellect. All this is is a summer popcorn flick.

And I do agree that the beginning is the best part of the movie...I have said it many many times...I loved the beginning of this movie.

Project862006 04-15-2009 10:38 PM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
i also got that he was there because he had to look after creed not because he didn't care where he fought

chaseter 04-15-2009 10:40 PM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
Creed can regenerate...he is a big boy:D I just got that he went with Creed because they are close.

Red Mask 04-16-2009 05:58 AM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
Wolverine has been involved in many conflicts, including the Spanish Civil War. But I think a Larry Hama story explained it best: immortals go to war. They seek what they can't have - death. So it's not unlikely that Logan has involved in numerous conflicts despite his citizenship.

Nevaratoiel 04-16-2009 06:00 AM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RachelDawes (Post 16764989)
Is he hard to kill even before he's given admantium? If I were that tough, that long-lived, and that good at fighting I might go to war too.

His healing ability???? :whatever:

Evelisse 04-16-2009 09:57 AM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
I'm thinking it was pretty tough to prove citizenship during the civil war? I mean I doubt many had paperwork to back anything up, and that the army would turn any able bodied man who wanted to fight down.

Dope Nose 04-16-2009 10:19 AM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Overlord (Post 16744668)
If Wolverine was Canadian why would he fight in the American Civil War and the Vietnam war?

roughly 50,000 Canadians served in the Civil War and another 30,000 volunteered to serve in the Vietnam war.

magneto1138 04-16-2009 10:53 AM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
The one thing that gets me is the dog tags. All 3 X-Films he had Canadian issue tags, and now all the sudden they are American issue.

Evelisse 04-16-2009 11:10 AM

Re: Questions about the wars Wolverine fought in
 
heh, don't think normal people will remember/notice/care about a detail like that. :)


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