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Pauluz 05-03-2009 07:43 AM

Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
Don't get me wrong, I loved his Wolverine in X1 and some bits in X2 but as we all know he got softer and softer. Even in the new film. I don't know where the change came from but Jackman has lost the badass he was in X1.

Who's up for a new Wolverine?

Antrax255 05-03-2009 07:45 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
I'm done with Wolverine period.

not_a_victim 05-03-2009 07:54 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
While Jackman has done pretty good working wtih the material he was given, I don't think he was entirely right for the role. For most of his existence, Wolverine is supposed to be around 5'3". In the last 10+ years, he isn't generally protrayed as being that short in the comics.
I would, however, have liked to seen a much shorter man be cast as Wolverine. Jackman is listed at 6' 2 1/2". I would have liked to have seen a much shorter man's take on the role.

dark_b 05-03-2009 07:58 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
he trained like a machine. hes has a lot of muscles in the movie. but he act to soft. he is a ''softy''. to bad

not_a_victim 05-03-2009 08:03 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
What's really unusual is that HJ wasn't the first choice for the role. He actually replaced Dougray Scott.

dark_b 05-03-2009 08:05 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
Scott would be an interesting wolverine. also badass IMO.

Pauluz 05-03-2009 08:07 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
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Originally Posted by not_a_victim (Post 16861445)
While Jackman has done pretty good working wtih the material he was given, I don't think he was entirely right for the role. For most of his existence, Wolverine is supposed to be around 5'3". In the last 10+ years, he isn't generally protrayed as being that short in the comics.
I would, however, have liked to seen a much shorter man be cast as Wolverine. Jackman is listed at 6' 2 1/2". I would have liked to have seen a much shorter man's take on the role.

I don't think his height has anything to do with portraying the character. You can't have everything, Jackman had the voice, the face and the attitude in X1. His height really is a minor issue. It's not like he's 7 feet tall.

Pauluz 05-03-2009 08:07 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dark_b (Post 16861461)
Scott would be an interesting wolverine. also badass IMO.

Wouldn't be a bad choice but I think he can't hide his acent.

dark_b 05-03-2009 08:21 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pauluz (Post 16861465)
Wouldn't be a bad choice but I think he can't hide his acent.

thats also true.

not_a_victim 05-03-2009 08:25 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
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Originally Posted by Pauluz (Post 16861462)
I don't think his height has anything to do with portraying the character. You can't have everything, Jackman had the voice, the face and the attitude in X1. His height really is a minor issue. It's not like he's 7 feet tall.

I don't think he had the proper voice or face. Attitiude is only the actor portraying what is written in the script and at the director's instruction.
Jackman's voice isn't nearly deep or rough enough, he has a very soft intonation. His face is way too thin with a too long nose to wear the mutton chops he has in the movies.
You can not be serious when you say that height is not a major issue. Wolverine is called a "runt' by just about everyone he fights. If his height wasn't important to Marvel, why would they create a character who is such a bad-a$$, then make him 5'3"? His height (or lack thereof) is incredibly important, just not to you.

Pauluz 05-03-2009 08:32 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
You said it yourself:

Quote:

Originally Posted by not_a_victim (Post 16861445)
While Jackman has done pretty good working wtih the material he was given, I don't think he was entirely right for the role. For most of his existence, Wolverine is supposed to be around 5'3". In the last 10+ years, he isn't generally protrayed as being that short in the comics.
I would, however, have liked to seen a much shorter man be cast as Wolverine. Jackman is listed at 6' 2 1/2". I would have liked to have seen a much shorter man's take on the role.

Marvel sold the rights, so there's nothing they can do about it. Besides, why would you want to see a midget with claws fight onscreen. Or a suit like he wears in the comics. It would look ridiculous and nobody (the general audience who know almost nothing about him) will take the character serious. Sabretooth (X1) was taller than Jackman so he was still a runt.

LeperMessiah 05-03-2009 08:44 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
I could be wrong, but prior to X1, I heard Glenn Danzig was asked to portray Wolverine, but he kept his band as his first priority. If he could act, he would've killed as Wolverine.

[A] 05-03-2009 08:44 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pauluz (Post 16861437)
Don't get me wrong, I loved his Wolverine in X1 and some bits in X2 but as we all know he got softer and softer. Even in the new film. I don't know where the change came from but Jackman has lost the badass he was in X1.

Who's up for a new Wolverine?

I voted yes! but it's more like a yup. I agree with your post.. he keeps getting softer and nicer and all that.. next movie's gonna be something like Kindergarten Cop

not_a_victim 05-03-2009 08:48 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pauluz (Post 16861495)
You said it yourself:



Marvel sold the rights, so there's nothing they can do about it. Besides, why would you want to see a midget with claws fight onscreen. Or a suit like he wears in the comics. It would look ridiculous and nobody (the general audience who know almost nothing about him) will take the character serious. Sabretooth (X1) was taller than Jackman so he was still a runt.

1. Quit exaggerating and using hyperbole.
-I never said I wanted a midget. I just want someone who could be realistically be called a "runt". An actor around 5'7" could have been used.
2. Quit putting words in my mouth and/or bringing non sequitors into the argument.
-I never mentioned anything about a suit. Stick to the subject at hand.
Additionally, a 6'2 1/2" man with claws is way less ridiculous looking than a shorter man with claws. :whatever:
I said Jackman did a good job with what he was given, but an essential, essential character element, his height, is missing with Jackman in the role. Jackman did alright, but I'n not one of you rabid fanboys that fawn over him in the role. It could have been done better, in my opinion.
Let's take it the opposite way...
Let's say for the last 30 years, Wolverine has been portrayed as 6'4". Then, a guy the size of Tom Cruise, at 5'7", is cast in the role. People would have hit the roof with their arguments against the casting.

not_a_victim 05-03-2009 08:59 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
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Originally Posted by LeperMessiah (Post 16861505)
I could be wrong, but prior to X1, I heard Glenn Danzig was asked to portray Wolverine, but he kept his band as his first priority. If he could act, he would've killed as Wolverine.

Danzig was considered for a role in a low-budget X-Men movie that was going to be made back in 1994, but he was not offered the role for the one made in 2000. He was, however, pointed to as the type of physique that Wolverine should have in the movie.

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/2...ziglivedb0.jpg

Lauryn2000 05-03-2009 09:02 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
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Originally Posted by not_a_victim (Post 16861512)
1. Quit exaggerating and using hyperbole.
-I never said I wanted a midget. I just want someone who could be realistically be called a "runt". An actor around 5'7" could have been used.
2. Quit putting words in my mouth and/or bringing non sequitors into the argument.
-I never mentioned anything about a suit. Stick to the subject at hand.
Additionally, a 6'2 1/2" man with claws is way less ridiculous looking than a shorter man with claws. :whatever:
I said Jackman did a good job with what he was given, but an essential, essential character element, his height, is missing with Jackman in the role. Jackman did alright, but I'n not one of you rabid fanboys that fawn over him in the role. It could have been done better, in my opinion.
Let's take it the opposite way...
Let's say for the last 30 years, Wolverine has been portrayed as 6'4". Then, a guy the size of Tom Cruise, at 5'7", is cast in the role. People would have hit the roof with their arguments against the casting.

LOLOLOL....a midget...with claws...LOLOLOL...Hugh Jackman did a good job of Wolverine,I even watched X-Men 2 when I got home in blu-ray...but good points you bring up...but heck if we are brining up Tom Cruise's height,might as well throw in Prince (example) as someone with the right height for someone not even 5'7''.....:bh::bh:

[A] 05-03-2009 09:02 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
Danzig as Wolverine is priceless. B-Movie all over the place! :hehe: Imagine the short little f**cker going nuts while killing enemies, who he'd call misfits

not_a_victim 05-03-2009 09:06 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
Look at the pic in the link I posted. Someone photoshop some claws and mutton chops on that and tell me that aint Wolverine... or at least more of a Wolverine in appearance than Jackman.


http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/2...ziglivedb0.jpg

[A] 05-03-2009 09:09 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
too bad he probably can't act (he can't sing either :hehe: but he just writes so damn good songs)

not_a_victim 05-03-2009 09:11 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
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Originally Posted by [A] (Post 16861533)
too bad he probably can't act (he can't sing either :hehe: but he just writes so damn good songs)

Yeah, I give you that. He can't act worth a crap. Yeah, his voice is so-so. Incredibe song writer and producer, though.

Adrian89 05-03-2009 09:12 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pauluz (Post 16861437)
Don't get me wrong, I loved his Wolverine in X1 and some bits in X2 but as we all know he got softer and softer. Even in the new film. I don't know where the change came from but Jackman has lost the badass he was in X1.

Who's up for a new Wolverine?

He doesn't have to be a ruthless beast.

Jackman was good, fk the comics and stop being such nerds and learn to enjoy the movies guys! Always someone must complain that "it's not like in the comics" and moan all the time. If it's good in the movie, who cares?

[A] 05-03-2009 09:13 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
*starts listening to Mother*

Spider-ManHero12 05-03-2009 09:15 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
Jackman's Wolverine kicks ass. 'Nuff said.

returntovoid 05-03-2009 09:15 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
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Originally Posted by not_a_victim (Post 16861524)
low-budget X-Men movie that was going to be made back in 1994

I have read the script for it on the internet.

Here's the link to the script.

http://www.moviescriptsource.com/movie-script.php?id=1

not_a_victim 05-03-2009 09:19 AM

Re: Aynone else kinda done with Jackman's Wolverine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T-101 (Post 16861535)
He doesn't have to be a ruthless beast.

Jackman was good, fk the comics and stop being such nerds and learn to enjoy the movies guys! Always someone must complain that "it's not like in the comics" and moan all the time. If it's good in the movie, who cares?

That's the point. Some of us want to see the comic book Wolverine on teh screen, not the "Wolverine Lite" (NOW WITH 60% LESS BAD-A$$ERY IN EVERY SCENE!!!) that we got. Just because you are satisfied with it, doesn't mean that the rest of us are. That doesn't make anyone a nerd. A true Wolverine movie should be rated R; that would be a movie that I would "enjoy".
The comics are Wolverine. The movies have not been.


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