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Artistsean 05-15-2009 02:56 PM

Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
Some characters and story ideas wouldn't work for the first Avengers movie,
What characters do you think should be in the sequel?
Who should be the bad guy, what story should they do?

I have an idea for the sequel that wouldn't work really for the first Avengers movie.
Avengers 1) Introduce all the characters, get to know them and their abilities, and personalities.
I think Loki/ Hulk team up would be good, with Hulk being manipulated by Loki against the Avengers until Loki fights the Avengers himself.

Avengers 2, or 3) Ultron was the bad guy.
While the other films hint at Hank Pym's instability, this film really shows it. We see how insecure he is, how mentally unstable he is, and how he resents his fellow Avengers, and himself. He even has a break down earlier, perhaps.
He feels he is a failure as a scientist, avenger, and husband. He might not be, but he thinks he is.
He builds Ultron, and AI robot. Ultron hates all life on Earth and wants to destroy it, but most of all he hates the Avengers. Especially Hank Pym. Ultron would be a living embodiment of Pym's dark side. While this film would have ultron as the villain, and focus on him, the main focus of the Avengers movie could be Hank Pym.
Ultron, in his plans for destroying the Avengers and all human life, creates robot drones. His greatest weapon is the Vision.
Vision, perhaps near the end of the movie, turns on Ultron very similar to how Ultron turned on Pym.

Its not really plotted out, just some ideas of mine on how a Ultron Avengers movie could go.



I also think that after Avengers 3 they could start with the rotating cast, maybe introduce some characters in Avengers 2 or 3 that would stick around as main cast members in Avengers 4, like Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, Quicksilver, Vision, Tigra, Falcon, She-Hulk, Hercules, any character who would fit with the stories.



Anyone else have any ideas on Avengers sequals, the characters, stories, coarse the movies would take?

KangConquers 04-07-2010 11:44 AM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
1. Masters of Evil
2. Ultron
3. Kang

Athena 07-26-2010 07:38 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
1. As a she-geek, I really wanna see more than one female Avenger on the team!
2. For a villain, I'd like the Mandarin. Then you could have the magic rings and the dragon and it wouldn't seem silly because most of the Avengers have magic/super-powers too.

Harry_Lime02 07-28-2010 03:11 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
Well, wait and see who's in the first one first.

RockSP 07-30-2010 06:00 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Athena (Post 18610833)
I really wanna see more than one female Avenger on the team!

I agree, though I understand that they don't want to go with too many characters.

Quote:

2. For a villain, I'd like the Mandarin. Then you could have the magic rings and the dragon and it wouldn't seem silly because most of the Avengers have magic/super-powers too.
Eh, not really. If you don't count Hulk (who will probably be adversarial to the rest of them) that really only leaves Thor and Iron Man.

BigSams50 08-13-2010 04:24 AM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
Ultron would be perfect for the sequel

tnr105 08-19-2010 08:10 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
1. Yes. Ultron as big baddie for 2
2. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are packed in with X-Men. They had cameos in Wolverine. That said, I would like to see the following members introduced:

Ant-Man/Giant Man
Wasp
Black Panther
Ms. Marvel
Falcon

ron bond 007 08-27-2010 11:18 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
The first movie should be based on the Kree Skrull War story arc from 1971 where the Avengers go to the Andromeda Galaxy and battle the Skrulls in a massive space battle and the sequel should be based on the 19-part Operation:Galactic Storm where the Avengers go to the Kree Galaxy through a stargate in the Avengers Quinjet and battle the Kree Empire and the Shi'ar in numerous space battles. Please Paramount! Please do the Kree Skrull War as the first movie and Operation:Galactic Storm as the sequel PLease! Please! Pretty PLeeeeease!

:woot::awesome::woot::yay::hrt:

Squidboy 08-31-2010 12:52 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
Perhaps a terrorist organization such as the Hand or HYDRA could stir up some trouble, and ultimately create a threat big enough for even more Avengies to join the crew. Perhaps they get their hands on Pym technology and blueprints, start rolling out the robot ticking timebombs. Mayhaps they set some supervillains out on the world (Abomination did survive Hulk, and I'm assuming he's in SHIELD custody.. do I smell a redemption story for Banner?) to distract the Avengers on some more sinister goal of theirs? I dunno, I guess wait and see how the first movie turns out before planning out the sequel. Maybe then we can start the casting threads for Squirrel Girl as the next female Avenger.

shockprowl 11-04-2010 07:21 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
Hi all.

I'm very excited about the Avengers movie. Absolutely cannot wait. I think Marvel are doing a fantastic job with the build up etc.

I actualy love the plot of the Ultimates. I think that would transfer into a movie very well. An alien invasion at some point would be great to see, possibly involving the Fantastic Four as well.

So many possibilities!!!

RockSP 11-04-2010 07:47 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shockprowl (Post 19168498)
I actualy love the plot of the Ultimates. I think that would transfer into a movie very well. An alien invasion at some point would be great to see, possibly involving the Fantastic Four as well.

Can't happen. Film rights at another studio.

shockprowl 11-05-2010 04:12 AM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RockSP (Post 19168666)
Can't happen. Film rights at another studio.

Blast! Maybe one day.

BatsDC 11-19-2010 01:16 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
See below...

bored 12-28-2010 01:08 AM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
Oh lord, PLEASE not Spidey and Wolverine.

What I really want to see: -A few more (real) Avengers. Pym and the Wasp, of course. Maybe Vision?
-The Avengers Mansion (no idea if it or anything like it will pop up in the first movie).
-KANG.

psylockolussus 06-15-2011 04:25 AM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
I don't think Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch will ever appear in the Avengers.

Indy1Jones 06-23-2011 06:55 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
How about new avengers Wolverine Spiderman maybe after their films are done.

BatsDC 06-30-2011 04:07 AM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
I think the team should consist of Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, Hawkeye, Hulk, Ant Man, Wasp and Black Widow for the sequel, with maybe Ms. Marvel being set up for a sequel in it.

Villains should be Ultron or Thanos (presuming he's just set up in the first Avengers flick) and Ultron should build Vision to set him up for future films.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Indy1Jones (Post 20694415)
How about new avengers Wolverine Spiderman maybe after their films are done.

Sony and FOX own the rights to those characters so Marvel Studios can't use them.

DrCosmic 07-24-2011 12:46 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
Well, we know the first movie will be Loki, plus whatever else he creates as a distraction, as it was in the comics. An ensemble villain (like the Masters of Evil) require too much screen time to make believable, so they're out. Ultron's a great choice, but I personally would prefer he be a villain for a Giant Man film, since Ultron's story is so fixated on Hank, and making Hank, a new character, the center of a sequel is a bad idea. The thread of the story should hang on the central characters: Fury, Cap, Thor, Iron Man.

An alien invasion is a pretty cool way to do things. Having the Kree and tying in Ms. Marvel could be pretty awesome, and their alien technology can be used to involve other heroes as needed. You still can't have a cast of ten Avengers and make them all feel like real people as opposed to cartoons, but you can add one or two more as part of the storyline.

A third one, if I can imagine such a thing, would probably involve Kang, and be a great way to cap off or bring together all of the Marvel films, period. Good times.

Hawkingbird 08-13-2011 10:02 AM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
Ultron for me too. With another feamale Avenger please! Ms.Marvel, some how explaining the Kree situation.
I would love love LOVE for there to be a movie cross over some time in the future, which could evenutaly lead up to Civil War and/or Secret Invasion. Though for this to happen, they would either have to reboot or just forget Fantastic Four (Chris Evans). Would love to see a FF reboot, the first one was a complete fail and don't get me STARTED on the second one:doh:
Know this is close to impossible due to contracts. But hey, I can dream my nerdy dreams...

Hawkingbird 08-13-2011 10:06 AM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shockprowl (Post 19168498)
Hi all.

I'm very excited about the Avengers movie. Absolutely cannot wait. I think Marvel are doing a fantastic job with the build up etc.

I actualy love the plot of the Ultimates. I think that would transfer into a movie very well. An alien invasion at some point would be great to see, possibly involving the Fantastic Four as well.

So many possibilities!!!

There is an alien invasion in the Avengers. Skrulls baby!!!!

R_Hythlodeus 08-13-2011 05:21 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
In the second one I want Ultron. I hope that the Ant-Man movie is out by then and Ant-Man and Wasp can join the team. However, if Wright isn't able to deliver his flick until the Avengers sequel, I have absolutley no problem if the change Ultrons origin and make Tony his creator instead of Hank.

cherokeesam 08-13-2011 10:12 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R_Hythlodeus (Post 21194873)
In the second one I want Ultron. I hope that the Ant-Man movie is out by then and Ant-Man and Wasp can join the team. However, if Wright isn't able to deliver his flick until the Avengers sequel, I have absolutley no problem if the change Ultrons origin and make Tony his creator instead of Hank.

Yanno...

....as much as I consider myself a purist, and as much as I *hate* to see Hank Pym continue to be misunderstood and misrepresented by anyone who's never even bothered to read The Avengers (including, dare I say it, certain writers in the esteemed Bullpen)...I still gotta say that I agree with you.

I wouldn't have any problem with Stark being Ultron's maker at all. As long as they still give Hank his due with the discovery/ manipulation/ control of size-altering Pym Particles. Let Stark be the robotics & armor genius, and give him the "rights" to Ultron, Vision and Jocasta; but make Pym the particle physicist who can grow/shrink anyone and anything.

That would give them both an exclusive "bailiwick" with which they'll always be identified.

tamron 08-14-2011 04:50 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
I really liked how Avengers:EMH had Pym and Stark both having a hand in Ultron's development. I'd want to see them go that route in the film. Gives them a great source of conflict.

DrCosmic 08-14-2011 08:46 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
... wouldn't Ultron be the villain for an Ant-Man film?

Anyway, I figure by then they'll include at least a couple of the following: Ant-Man, Wasp, Dr. Strange, Black Panther, Luke Cage and Ms. Marvel

If they find some other good villain for Ant-Man somewhere, great, otherwise, Ms. Marvel may lead well into an alien invasion by the Kree. Otherwise, Kang would make a great event villain.

VoodooMagic 08-16-2011 09:51 PM

Re: Avengers Sequel ideas?
 
Step 1: Marvel gets the rights to F4
Step 2: Galactus is a bad guy in the Avengers


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