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S.A.A.D. 06-18-2009 10:25 PM

Transformers: ROTF User Review Thread
 
Well someone here has seen it and I am sure others will have seen it in the next few or more days before Weds.

Venom160 06-18-2009 10:36 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Well I haven't seen the actual movie but I've read the novelization and all I gotta say is "meh". Not better and not worse then the first. Same old bayformers.

shigsy2003 06-18-2009 10:48 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Okay first review. I would advise anyone wanting the film to be a surprise NOT to read my review. I will however say for those...IT WAS IMMENSE.

Okay so to open with we get some nice history, TF on Earth with Primitive man and a quality opening with Demolisher. Sideways is in this opening but lasts all of 10 seconds. Demolisher does a bit better but Prime is launched from a carrier in the air and Transforms mid way which was stunning and a great opening for him. As soon as Prime enters the fray Demolisher don't last long. The reason I have described the opening is because this is true throughout the film. Prime is a bad ass...no sorry THE bad ass. Every one of his fights is a walk in the park, forget the pussy Prime on TF 1, this is how Prime should be. The action in this film (especially the forest fight) is top notch but very draining. I was actually very thankful for the comedy, it may offend some people but I was fine with it. The opening hour paces a long and then as soon as Jet Fire turns up things slow down quite a lot as he delves into exposition. However savour this brief interlude, you will need it. The humans don't feel as intrusive as they did in 1 and the Twins/Wheelie are not Jar Jar bad...no where near. Megatrons return is somewhat rushed, you dont see him get built, just infused with the All Spark shard and then he goes off to Mars (I think it is Mars) when Starscream and the Fallen are chilling. The Decepticons really feel like a race in this film, they feel alive. Soundwave is welcome and perfectly done...just hope he is used in the third alot. Ravage was also great and YES he and BB do fight. The last fight is immense and very loud, it takes perhaps too long to actually start but when it does it races along. That is a bit off a problem it ends very suddenly. There is a Prime outro but I guess because it isn't as long as number 1 it feels like a rushed ending. There are a few shots ripped from TF1 but not to point of hurting the film and the Starscream/Megs rivalry is nicely played.

All in all this film was bigger and better than the first with each faction feeling like a civilisation. If you loved the first you will love this, but it will not change the minds of those who hated the first. A great action comedy. 9/10

Ryo Jin 06-19-2009 11:13 AM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Didn't like Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. First was way better. Reason?

Cons:
1. Absolutely ZERO character development for the Autobots. Bumblebee was there, but still felt somewhat empty. Optimus was the only one with a presence.

2. All the attention was on Skip and Mudflap. It's like Jar Jar in Star Wars! ARGH! These twin racist representations of ghetto people was only smirk worthy some of the time. Most of the time all we see is them! I want Ironhide! Ratchet! Arcee! Bumblebee! Sideswipe! These guys were only seen fighting, being transported, and with one liners in the fights. THAT'S IT =(

3. All style, no substance. As expected, but more so than I thought.

Pros:
1. Optimus Prime kicks tons of ass. This makes up for his lacking in the first.

2. Megatron and Starscream are just like they are in the original cartoons, great addition.

3. The CGI was AMAZING. Hot damn I've never seen so much special effects. It's like the end of the first movie times ten. Great job in this department.

Loved the first, so-so for this. I'd say 6/10-6.5/10

I'll give it a rewatch, maybe my verdict will be different like it was for Sin City when I rewatched that.

Figs 06-19-2009 11:30 AM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Kind of really sucks to hear that a lot of the attention is on the twins.

Just curious, how are they racist anyways?

Ryo Jin 06-19-2009 11:35 AM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Figs (Post 17079449)
Kind of really sucks to hear that a lot of the attention is on the twins.

Just curious, how are they racist anyways?

Well, I wouldn't say they're racist per se, but they do get on the nerves with their ghetto stereotyping. Even Bay hated these twins, so why is it that all of the screen time went to them? You got me. Optimus definitely got his spotlight, but that's about it for the Autobot side.

The Caped Knight 06-19-2009 11:42 AM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
I've got some questions for those that saw the film

Does Peter Cullen have a cameo in this film ?

How's Megatron screentime this time around ?

Is The Fallen a worthy enemy to Prime & the Autobots ?

Do you get a hint of Primus & Unicron to be featured in movie 3 ?

Figs 06-19-2009 11:52 AM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryo Jin (Post 17079463)
Well, I wouldn't say they're racist per se, but they do get on the nerves with their ghetto stereotyping. Even Bay hated these twins, so why is it that all of the screen time went to them? You got me. Optimus definitely got his spotlight, but that's about it for the Autobot side.

That doesn't make sense, if Bay hated the twins he should have asked the writers to take their asses out of the film. So the twins both talk like Jazz did?

Lunar_Wolf 06-19-2009 11:53 AM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-El 8 (Post 17079491)
I've got some questions for those that saw the film

Does Peter Cullen have a cameo in this film ?

How's Megatron screentime this time around ?

Is The Fallen a worthy enemy to Prime & the Autobots ?

Do you get a hint of Primus & Unicron to be featured in movie 3 ?

No.

Megatron gets a good screentime, this felt like a Decepticon film.

Fallen seemed more vicious in his past the present.

No.


Pros

-This is a Decepticon film.

-Megatron, Starscream and Fallen on Cybertron was awesome.

-Action was outstanding.

-I got teary in some scenes

-Devastator was cool

-Adding the matrix was awesome

-Ravage was great.

-Sam's parents are hilarious.

-Loved Wheelie and Jetfire

-Special effects are perfect.

-So many great Transformations.

-MORE focus on the bots then humans.


Cons

-adult humor was a bit much, I can believe the F word was used.

-No character development on the new autobots.

-Ending was kinda lackluster in terms of where some characters went.

-Soundwave didn't have his famous voice.

-The film drags a little in the 3/4

-Devastator confused me. Longhaul was attached to Devastator and was fighting in a different battle at the dame time?

Overall I loved it. Kinda lacked in some areas, but makes up for in the weaknesses of the first.

8/10

Figs 06-19-2009 11:59 AM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Glad you liked it Lunar.

I can't wait to see it, I know what to expect since it's a Bay film so I don't think I'll be disappointed. So is a lot of the humour that bad?

I want to know so I can tell my parents if they'll like it or not. They really enjoyed the first film but really did not like the masturbation joke. To be honest and I'm not really sensitive or conservative, I even found it a bit out of place and felt it was in bad taste.

The Caped Knight 06-19-2009 12:05 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunar_Wolf (Post 17079539)
No.

Megatron gets a good screentime, this felt like a Decepticon film.

Fallen seemed more vicious in his past the present.

No.


Pros

-This is a Decepticon film.

-Megatron, Starscream and Fallen on Cybertron was awesome.

-Action was outstanding.

-I got teary in some scenes

-Devastator was cool

-Adding the matrix was awesome

-Ravage was great.

-Sam's parents are hilarious.

-Loved Wheelie and Jetfire

-Special effects are perfect.

-So many great Transformations.

-MORE focus on the bots then humans.


Cons

-adult humor was a bit much, I can believe the F word was used.

-No character development on the new autobots.

-Ending was kinda lackluster in terms of where some characters went.

-Soundwave didn't have his famous voice.

-The film drags a little in the 3/4

-Devastator confused me. Longhaul was attached to Devastator and was fighting in a different battle at the dame time?

Overall I loved it. Kinda lacked in some areas, but makes up for in the weaknesses of the first.

8/10

Thank you for answering my questions.

Here are a few more

1. Is Tony Todd the voice of the fallen ?

2. How were Jolt, Arcee, were they any good ?

3. Is the Space bridge or Energon seen ?

Mr. Earle 06-19-2009 12:10 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryo Jin (Post 17079359)
1. Absolutely ZERO character development for the Autobots. Bumblebee was there, but still felt somewhat empty. Optimus was the only one with a presence.

2. All the attention was on Skip and Mudflap. It's like Jar Jar in Star Wars! ARGH! These twin racist representations of ghetto people was only smirk worthy some of the time. Most of the time all we see is them! I want Ironhide! Ratchet! Arcee! Bumblebee! Sideswipe! These guys were only seen fighting, being transported, and with one liners in the fights. THAT'S IT =(

WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY? What is so great about those 2 retards that would justify all this screentime spent on them rather than Ironhide, Bee, Ratchet, Sideswipe?

Lunar_Wolf 06-19-2009 12:10 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Figs (Post 17079562)
Glad you liked it Lunar.

I can't wait to see it, I know what to expect since it's a Bay film so I don't think I'll be disappointed. So is a lot of the humour that bad?

I want to know so I can tell my parents if they'll like it or not. They really enjoyed the first film but really did not like the masturbation joke. To be honest and I'm not really sensitive or conservative, I even found it a bit out of place and felt it was in bad taste.

It's not like it's not funny, but kinda too much for kids. Skids calls Leo a p*ssy.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal-El 8 (Post 17079598)
Thank you for answering my questions.

Here are a few more

1. Is Tony Todd the voice of the fallen ?

2. How were Jolt, Arcee, were they any good ?

3. Is the Space bridge or Energon seen ?

1. Yes

2. Jolt is in the background once or twice and Arcee is barely in it.

4. Space bridge is mentioned and there is one scene where we see decepticon protoforms in energon which is blue.

I'm seeing it again in 2 hours. There is so much going on at times, it was hard to catch everything at first in scenes.

Timstuff 06-19-2009 12:11 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Whoa, is there an F-bomb in this movie!? :wow:

And I thought this movie was for kids. :csad:

Dr Lee 06-19-2009 12:19 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Saw the movie last night.......Loved it!

Just to cut down a long thread to something manageable... i'll spoiler tag the sections.

Good-

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
CGI is top notch.... best i've seen from ILM ever TBH
Prime was Badass.....
The Twins- So what if they were stupid rednecks..... i loved them.
Jetfire- Complete and utter Awesome!
Kevin Dunn- Kinda a surprise at the amount he had to do this time....
Megs and StarScream were don't brilliantly, SS seemed much more like his G1 personality.
Bumblebee was Badass in a few scenes as well.


The bad-

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Despite the 2 hours 27 minute run time.... it felt too rushed.

I was confused during the climatic battle as to who was who..... not cuz i couldn't see what was going on... but because characters popped up here... then there... and somewhere else.... all at once.

Strange shot of Bonecrusher...... Yes Bonecrusher. There's a shot of a line of advancing 'Cons.... and slap bang in the centre is Bonecrusher in Vehicles mode.

Too many characters...... Not sure why but there were far too many Autobots in movie..... Jolt never said a word, and was only seen TWICE, Sideswipe had a bit more to do , but again, only had one or two lines.... Hide, Ratchet... reduced to secondary characters....the Arcee bikes.... never explained if they were one unit or three seperate units in a team,

Soundwave was nothing more than a head poking out the top of a USAF satellite.


The Ugly-

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
close-up of Simmons' butt in a thong:jack_new_anime05:
Devestator had testicles..... No lie.:mckay:
The possibly Gay dog sex:jack_new_anime05: (Mojo humping a dog called 'Frankie'.... didn't hear if they said if it was a boy or girl dog though)
Wheelie madly humping Megan's leg

Figs 06-19-2009 12:29 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Lee (Post 17079673)
Saw the movie last night.......Loved it!

Just to cut down a long thread to something manageable... i'll spoiler tag the sections.

Good-

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
CGI is top notch.... best i've seen from ILM ever TBH
Prime was Badass.....
The Twins- So what if they were stupid rednecks..... i loved them.
Jetfire- Complete and utter Awesome!
Kevin Dunn- Kinda a surprise at the amount he had to do this time....
Megs and StarScream were don't brilliantly, SS seemed much more like his G1 personality.
Bumblebee was Badass in a few scenes as well.


The bad-

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Despite the 2 hours 27 minute run time.... it felt too rushed.

I was confused during the climatic battle as to who was who..... not cuz i couldn't see what was going on... but because characters popped up here... then there... and somewhere else.... all at once.

Strange shot of Bonecrusher...... Yes Bonecrusher. There's a shot of a line of advancing 'Cons.... and slap bang in the centre is Bonecrusher in Vehicles mode.

Too many characters...... Not sure why but there were far too many Autobots in movie..... Jolt never said a word, and was only seen TWICE, Sideswipe had a bit more to do , but again, only had one or two lines.... Hide, Ratchet... reduced to secondary characters....the Arcee bikes.... never explained if they were one unit or three seperate units in a team,

Soundwave was nothing more than a head poking out the top of a USAF satellite.


The Ugly-

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
close-up of Simmons' butt in a thong:jack_new_anime05:
Devestator had testicles..... No lie.:mckay:
The possibly Gay dog sex:jack_new_anime05: (Mojo humping a dog called 'Frankie'.... didn't hear if they said if it was a boy or girl dog though)
Wheelie madly humping Megan's leg

Wow, lol a lot of parents are going to be pissed with some of that raunchy humour. Bay's past films(minus masterbating joke in TF1) were never that bad when it came to humour from what I can remember.

Lunar_Wolf 06-19-2009 12:45 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Lee (Post 17079673)
Saw the movie last night.......Loved it!

Just to cut down a long thread to something manageable... i'll spoiler tag the sections.

Good-

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
CGI is top notch.... best i've seen from ILM ever TBH
Prime was Badass.....
The Twins- So what if they were stupid rednecks..... i loved them.
Jetfire- Complete and utter Awesome!
Kevin Dunn- Kinda a surprise at the amount he had to do this time....
Megs and StarScream were don't brilliantly, SS seemed much more like his G1 personality.
Bumblebee was Badass in a few scenes as well.


The bad-

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Despite the 2 hours 27 minute run time.... it felt too rushed.

I was confused during the climatic battle as to who was who..... not cuz i couldn't see what was going on... but because characters popped up here... then there... and somewhere else.... all at once.

Strange shot of Bonecrusher...... Yes Bonecrusher. There's a shot of a line of advancing 'Cons.... and slap bang in the centre is Bonecrusher in Vehicles mode.

Too many characters...... Not sure why but there were far too many Autobots in movie..... Jolt never said a word, and was only seen TWICE, Sideswipe had a bit more to do , but again, only had one or two lines.... Hide, Ratchet... reduced to secondary characters....the Arcee bikes.... never explained if they were one unit or three seperate units in a team,

Soundwave was nothing more than a head poking out the top of a USAF satellite.


The Ugly-

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
close-up of Simmons' butt in a thong:jack_new_anime05:
Devestator had testicles..... No lie.:mckay:
The possibly Gay dog sex:jack_new_anime05: (Mojo humping a dog called 'Frankie'.... didn't hear if they said if it was a boy or girl dog though)
Wheelie madly humping Megan's leg

Knew I saw Bonecrusher.

Did Simmons say the f word or did i hear things?

Mr. Earle 06-19-2009 12:48 PM

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If i am not mistaken, even Wheelie drops an F bomb during that clip with Megan Fox. He says: "this place is a ****ing house of horrors".
At least i think so.

Dr Lee 06-19-2009 12:49 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Wheelie was 'Frigging'... Don't remember hearing Simmons use the Fword

mr. peasant 06-19-2009 12:55 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Just watched the movie. And I must say, most of my thoughts have already been posted. It does seem rushed and yet some parts just dragged. In other words, pacing could have been tighter. Also, some parts that struck a nerve:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
A fellow robot died in order to give Optimus his upgrade. Upon beating the Fallen, what does he do? Chucks it aside like so much waste.

The Fallen revealed the Transformers' existence and announced he was after Sam. The movie also indicated that the government was considering said option. Yet, at no point did it feel as though other humans were after him. Sure, he was on a 'wanted list' but again, nothing came of it.

There were far, far too many Transformers on both sides and at the climax. I couldn't tell them apart and more importantly, I couldn't tell whose side they were on. It was just too chaotic to appreciate.

Lastly, Devastator's size could have been done better. Why have a humongous Transformer built from several vehicles and not put another Transformer beside for scale comparison? Then, there's the really big one at the start of the movie, making Devastator's initial appearance all the less impressive.

luca_frontino 06-19-2009 12:59 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
I read the movie adaptation from IDW and, even if it's without all the stupid jokes and useless scenes, I've find it a complete garbage.
Dreamwave's Generation One is a godmade work in comparison!

Octoberist 06-19-2009 01:01 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Question:

What is the screentime of Prime's faceplate? It gets knocked off but does he get it back?

Also, does Soundwave talk and does he still have that monotone robot voice?

protocida 06-19-2009 01:01 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
I only have one question:

Does Jolt die?

Answer "Yes" or "No", please. :woot:

The Lizard 06-19-2009 01:03 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Seeing free advance screening Monday. Will post review then.

Lunar_Wolf 06-19-2009 01:17 PM

Re: The Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen user review thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by protocida (Post 17079893)
I only have one question:

Does Jolt die?

Answer "Yes" or "No", please. :woot:

No.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Octoberist (Post 17079891)
Question:

What is the screentime of Prime's faceplate? It gets knocked off but does he get it back?

Also, does Soundwave talk and does he still have that monotone robot voice?

Primes faceplate is pretty much in it like the first and it does get back on.

Soundwave talks but does not a his voice, which sucked.


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