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ultimatefan 04-26-2010 01:01 PM

Cool Dark Knight references in pop culture
 
As anyone who hasnīt lived under a rock in the past couple years knows, TDK is polinized all over pop culture with references, homages, influences, parodies, etc. Letīs point out some of the coolest examples. here are some:

The Office: Creed shows up to the officeīs Halloween party as the Heath Ledger Joker and delivers "letīs put a smile on that face" and "Iīll make this pencil (holds elevator door) disappear".

South Park: Pretty much an entire episode references TDK as well as Rorschach in Watchmen all the way through, focused on Cartman trying to be a masked vigilante known as The Coon.

Community: The showīs "Rain Man", human pop culture encyclopaedia Abed shows up to a Halloween party dressed up as Batman, doing a Christian Bale Impression, in the end saves two leading characters and makes a speech that echoes in many ways the ending of TDK.

Iron Man 2: Coincidence or not, IM2 has an interrogation scene between the hero and villain, where the villain tells the hero the "ugly truth".

Cypher00 04-26-2010 01:48 PM

Re: Cool Dark Knight references in pop culture
 
A commercial for Pop Secret popcorn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWCxHiOQOOY

Tacit Ronin 04-26-2010 04:45 PM

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You are gonna get flamed for the Ironman comment. You will be accused of seeing things that aren't there.

ultimatefan 04-26-2010 04:54 PM

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Iīm not saying itīs a rip-off, but there clearly is a general similarity.

Tacit Ronin 04-26-2010 06:40 PM

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I see it too. But I dare not speak around these parts.

Panthro 04-26-2010 07:10 PM

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Gotta love pop culture.

The Joker 04-26-2010 08:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cypher00 (Post 18282103)
A commercial for Pop Secret popcorn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWCxHiOQOOY

Hahahaha, love it!

thedarks0ldier 04-26-2010 09:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuffsaid (Post 18283212)
I see it too. But I dare not speak around these parts.

People are sensitive around here, but Iron Man fans tend to be more reasonable, especially compared to Bat-fans.

Honestly though, people shouldn't hesitate about posting things that are at least some what thought out.

Think about it, Spider-Man 2 and Batman Begins had train sequences. The Dark Knight has a transformer (Tumbler to Bat-Pod). The Joker looks similar to the Crow. People don't mind because none of these artistic decisions are forced, they seem to fit in nicely with their own stories.

Heck, Whiplash and the Joker apparently go to the same barber too, nobody really cares.

As for references in pop culture go I am kinda surprised as to the amount of references. To be honest I kind of expected more but I am glad there isn't a saturation of The Dark Knight quotes and quips out there.

Ipodman 04-26-2010 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by thedarks0ldier (Post 18284023)
Heck, Whiplash and the Joker apparently go to the same barber too, nobody really cares.

LOL! :woot:

Crook 04-27-2010 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ultimatefan (Post 18282872)
Iīm not saying itīs a rip-off, but there clearly is a general similarity.

Interrogations such as those are pretty standard, however. Personally I find a lot more similarities between the shot of Whiplash/Joker non-nonchalantly walking off-screen from a corridor explosion behind them.

ImWithTeamConan 04-27-2010 01:26 AM

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I had never seen that commercial before, thanks!

At the end of "The Naked Man" episode of How I Met Your Mother, Ted gives a Gordon speech about The Naked Man like the ending of TDK.

thedarks0ldier 04-27-2010 06:35 AM

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Hey, does anyone know where that video of the giant joker banner being waved at a soccer game is?

Travesty 04-27-2010 10:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thedarks0ldier (Post 18284023)
Think about it, Spider-Man 2 and Batman Begins had train sequences. The Dark Knight has a transformer (Tumbler to Bat-Pod). The Joker looks similar to the Crow. People don't mind because none of these artistic decisions are forced, they seem to fit in nicely with their own stories.

These are all just coincidences, and have nothing to do with "pop culture references". All the references above, like from The Office, South Park, and Community, are all references to Pop Culture, but the Iron Man2 interrogation scene isn't a TDK reference. That would be like saying that Nolan was referencing Spawn the movie, when Spawn was in a motorcycle chasing Clown in a semi, just like Batman in the Bat-pod chasing The Joker's truck.
VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

ultimatefan 04-27-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Travesty (Post 18285947)
These are all just coincidences, and have nothing to do with "pop culture references". All the references above, like from The Office, South Park, and Community, are all references to Pop Culture, but the Iron Man2 interrogation scene isn't a TDK reference. That would be like saying that Nolan was referencing Spawn the movie, when Spawn was in a motorcycle chasing Clown in a semi, just like Batman in the Pat-pod chasing The Joker's truck.
VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

Again, I never said they were ripping off or anything, but IM2 comes right in the tale of TDK, and the scenes obviously share general similarities -the villain points the "ugly truth" to the hero, accuses him, etc. But then again itīs more or less a staple of the genre, so itīs not a big deal.

The Spawn comparison is a bit forced though. Spawn was neither a critical or commercial hit, and harly any directors allow themselves to be influenced by failures/disappointments/middlings.

Travesty 04-27-2010 11:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ultimatefan (Post 18285960)
Again, I never said they were ripping off or anything, but IM2 comes right in the tale of TDK, and the scenes obviously share general similarities -the villain points the "ugly truth" to the hero, accuses him, etc. But then again itīs more or less a staple of the genre, so itīs not a big deal.

I never once said you were thinking that they "ripped them off". My point, was that the IM2 isn't a reference to TDK, it's just a coincidence. All the other examples you had are references to TDK, through pop culture.

Yes, they share similarities, just like Spawn and TDK do, but neither of those movies are referencing back to either movie, it's just a coincidence.:cwink:

thedarks0ldier 04-28-2010 04:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Travesty (Post 18285947)
These are all just coincidences, and have nothing to do with "pop culture references". All the references above, like from The Office, South Park, and Community, are all references to Pop Culture, but the Iron Man2 interrogation scene isn't a TDK reference. That would be like saying that Nolan was referencing Spawn the movie, when Spawn was in a motorcycle chasing Clown in a semi, just like Batman in the Pat-pod chasing The Joker's truck.
VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

I am aware of that, and thank you for elaborating my point. I wasn't listing them as references but suggesting to Nuffsaid that similarities and coincidences arise and no one should feel like they can't speak about it.

cchriswake13 04-29-2010 09:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ultimatefan (Post 18281938)
Iron Man 2: Coincidence or not, IM2 has an interrogation scene between the hero and villain, where the villain tells the hero the "ugly truth".

It's not the only one... "You complete me"

and how bout during a sequence in the trailer where I.M or W.M goes flying around destructing cars in his path (bat-pod callback)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuffsaid (Post 18283212)
I see it too. But I dare not speak around these parts.

Then it's their problem for being so anal about a mere discussion :whatever:

thedarks0ldier 04-30-2010 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cchriswake13 (Post 18293576)
then it's their problem for being so anal about a mere discussion :whatever:

word!

ultimatefan 04-30-2010 08:37 AM

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Trying to get back to topic, remembered another one:

The Cleveland Show - IN the end, Donna (Clevelandīs wife) saves him from a burglar but gives him the credit because "Stoolbend needs a hero!" and disappears suddenly, Batman-style.

frodawgg 05-03-2010 07:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cchriswake13 (Post 18293576)
It's not the only one... "You complete me"

I was thinking someone would bring that up. I can see what you're saying, even though (which I'm sure you're aware of) it's a reference to "Jerry Maguire" and had been done a hundred times before. That being said, I think TDK kind of made it its own, in it's dark humor sort of way.

I find it funny that Robert Downey, Jr. is using it after expressing his hatred for TDK and DC, whether it's an intentional reference or not.

ultimatefan 05-03-2010 07:26 AM

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^Downey clearly made that derogatory TDK/DC comment in jest, itīs nothing to be taking too seriously. Jon Favreau highly praises TDK.

frodawgg 05-04-2010 07:03 AM

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^^^ok, i guess i misunderstood it then

EDIT: actually, going back and reading the quote, i really think downey hates it. favreau might love it, but RDJ does not, from what i gather.

ultimatefan 05-04-2010 07:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frodawgg (Post 18309897)
^^^ok, i guess i misunderstood it then

EDIT: actually, going back and reading the quote, i really think downey hates it. favreau might love it, but RDJ does not, from what i gather.

The problem is inflection doesnīt translate to print. If you see interviews with RDJ, youīll see he says things like that in jest all the time, but in video you can tell by his face and inflection that heīs just kidding.

frodawgg 05-05-2010 07:08 AM

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^^^not that i don't believe you or don't believe how you interpret it, but i can't find the video of it, and it comes across to me (and i already took into consideration that inflection doesn't translate to print) that it was serious. some of the things might point to him being sarcastic or joking, but some really don't, such as him burning bridges, which is in reference to him ever working with DC. it just doesn't seem light-hearted.

but, you know, i may be wrong.

Travesty 05-05-2010 09:59 AM

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I really don't think the "you complete me" line is referring to, or making fun of, TDK. Again, it's just a coincidence that both of those lines were used. "You complete me" is actually a pretty common phrase, and was only made "popular" by Jerry McGuire. It's just a phrase, and nothing more. It would be like saying any movie that uses the phrase "oh behave" is automatically referring back to Austin Powers, when in most cases, it probably isn't. It's just a common phrase that Austin Powers, just so happened, made popular. Nothing more, nothing less. Maybe if Tony Stark said it EXACTLY like The Joker, by saying, "you.....complete.....ME!", then maybe I could buy it. But the fact remains, he said it fast, so it really shouldn't even be comparable in terms of use.

Now, if Tony Stark said something along the lines of "I don't wear hockey pads", or making fun of a bat-costume, then I could see the reference, but the "you complete me" is just a common phrase that shouldn't even be referred back to TDK, as it wasn't a catch phrase from that movie, and is more closely associated with Jerry McGuire, if anything. ;)


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