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Bruce_Begins 11-24-2011 07:58 AM

Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
What is the bset superhero origin movie ever ? Vote and discuss.

Bruce_Begins 11-24-2011 08:01 AM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
I prefer Batman Begins and it may even be the best Batman movie so far (Better than TDK.)

El Payaso 11-24-2011 08:15 AM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
STM is still the best for me.

BB was a good promise which was only fulfilled in TDK, but as it is, it's filled with bad dialogue and well.... you barely get to see the main character on screen. I prefer it to SM1 though, and even when I like Iron Man more than BB, I don't as an origin movie.

Nevincer 11-24-2011 12:19 PM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
Batman Begins.

Ultra Lantern 11-24-2011 11:38 PM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
Batman Begins

Thundercrack85 11-24-2011 11:43 PM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
Yes, considering they had to give him one just for the movie.

Mako 11-25-2011 05:41 AM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
Batman Begins

CConn 11-25-2011 09:33 PM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
This is a fair poll.

Ultra Lantern 11-26-2011 06:35 PM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CConn (Post 21935949)
This is a fair poll.

It sure is.

El Payaso 11-26-2011 08:25 PM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CConn (Post 21935949)
This is a fair poll.

Like a Superman poll in a Superman forum is. :woot:

uniqueweasel 11-27-2011 08:02 AM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
Batman Begins, but as a Batman fan, I suppose it's an unfair biased.

Brother Jack 11-27-2011 06:22 PM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
It's a toss-up between Batman Begins and Superman. On the one hand, Begins humanizes its protagonist and compacts his origin in a way no other film has, but on the other, Superman essentially invented the template for the superhero movie, which everyone has borrowed from, including Nolan.

kedrell 11-27-2011 06:35 PM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
Iron Man>Superman: The Movie>Captain America:The First Avenger>Batman Begins>Thor>Spider-man

Young Superman 11-29-2011 05:56 AM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Jack (Post 21946453)
It's a toss-up between Batman Begins and Superman. On the one hand, Begins humanizes its protagonist and compacts his origin in a way no other film has, but on the other, Superman essentially invented the template for the superhero movie, which everyone has borrowed from, including Nolan.

Agree with ihis.

CConn 11-29-2011 09:12 PM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
I never liked Superman: The Movie myself.

While a lot of elements of the film were great (plot, acting, etc.), there was just too many elements that fell flat. Gene Hackman's wonderfully campy Lex Luthor was consistently overshadowed by Ned Beatty's overly campy Otis, and as a result, the lack of a legitimately threatening villain hurt the overall film.

The damn cinematography bugged the hell out of me too. It's just so damn blurry and hazy.

CConn 11-29-2011 09:35 PM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
I never liked Superman: The Movie myself.

While a lot of elements of the film were great (plot, acting, etc.), there was just too many elements that fell flat. Gene Hackman's wonderfully campy Lex Luthor was consistently overshadowed by Ned Beatty's overly campy Otis, and as a result, the lack of a legitimately threatening villain hurt the overall film.

The damn cinematography bugged the hell out of me too. It's just so damn blurry and hazy.

El Payaso 11-29-2011 09:39 PM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CConn (Post 21962211)
I never liked Superman: The Movie myself.

While a lot of elements of the film were great (plot, acting, etc.), there was just too many elements that fell flat. Gene Hackman's wonderfully campy Lex Luthor was consistently overshadowed by Ned Beatty's overly campy Otis, and as a result, the lack of a legitimately threatening villain hurt the overall film.

The damn cinematography bugged the hell out of me too. It's just so damn blurry and hazy.

That might be true. What worked in the 70's might not age that well after 30+ years. But then again BB had some good share of problems. Scarecrow, while not a comedy type of villiain was tremendously downplayed and it ended up becoming a baffoon, being defeated in such a shameful unintentionally (?) funny way. And then you have some good share of dialogues that were almost amateurishly written.

CConn 11-30-2011 12:03 AM

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Oh, I'm not comparing STM to BB. I'm just saying I'm not a big fan of STM period.

kedrell 11-30-2011 02:09 AM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
The single biggest thing that BB did wrong which keeps me from ranking it higher can be summed up simply as = Rachel Dawes. Not just going by them casting a not so good TV actress for the role, nor complaining about the need to invent a new character in the first place...those are bad enough but that the character they created turned out to be one of the most unlikable characters in ANY superhero movie(and for my money the absolute worst ingenue in a comic book movie to date)...I just can't see anything impacting my personal ranking of the film more. Sure, some shaky-cam stuff was annoying during fight scenes, etc. but that's paltry and minor stuff compared to this. It's a credit to the rest of the production that it's so strong that it manages to minimize the negative effect of this character's inclusion.

The Morningstar 11-30-2011 02:10 AM

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I'd put Iron Man and Spider-Man ahead of Begins and Superman.

El Payaso 11-30-2011 07:01 AM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kedrell (Post 21963707)
The single biggest thing that BB did wrong which keeps me from ranking it higher can be summed up simply as = Rachel Dawes. Not just going by them casting a not so good TV actress for the role, nor complaining about the need to invent a new character in the first place...those are bad enough but that the character they created turned out to be one of the most unlikable characters in ANY superhero movie(and for my money the absolute worst ingenue in a comic book movie to date)...I just can't see anything impacting my personal ranking of the film more. Sure, some shaky-cam stuff was annoying during fight scenes, etc. but that's paltry and minor stuff compared to this. It's a credit to the rest of the production that it's so strong that it manages to minimize the negative effect of this character's inclusion.

:up:

Exactly. Rachel was an epic fail there. Speechy and slappy.

kedrell 11-30-2011 09:01 AM

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The only problem I had with S:TM was the whole 'spinning the Earth backwards' bull****. It's possibly the biggest cop-out in film history. I wish they'd have left it in film #2 as originally planned. Then at least I wouldn't have any problems with the first film. It would have been just as bad in #2 but at least one film would've gotten away unscathed.

Indy1Jones 11-30-2011 01:02 PM

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Batman begins.

CConn 11-30-2011 03:17 PM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
Ranking wise...

1. Captain America
2. Batman Begins
3. Iron Man
4. Spider-Man
5. Superman: The Movie

El Payaso 11-30-2011 04:01 PM

Re: Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?
 
You know, I gotta see Capt. America. I've heard so many good comments in here and I have such a hunch that it's nothing special, that it makes me curious as hell.


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