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TacomaTruck90 03-23-2012 12:49 AM

Will the Red Skull Return?
 
will Marvel go with other villians from the Captain America comics or will the Red Skull be back for Cap 2

cloverfan98 03-23-2012 01:07 AM

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Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Skull came back in the Avengers. Watch his "death" scene in CA and it looks like he is teleporting just like how the characters in Thor teleported. But yeah I'd expect to see either him or Winter Solider in CA2.

Shadowlord X 03-24-2012 02:23 PM

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I think he'll be back in CAPTAIN AMERICA III if they continue the franchise.

Artistsean 03-25-2012 08:20 PM

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I think Weaving said he is tired of playing these types of movies and characters. So I think he doesn't want to do Sci Fi bad guys anymore like Agent Smith, Red Skull, V, and other movies like that. So I doubt he will return unless they cast a different actor to play him, but would that be good?

Spider-Fan 03-25-2012 10:15 PM

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But, I think he is under contract for a sequel.

Artistsean 03-25-2012 10:42 PM

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Well then, yeah, he will probably do it then. I just hope its not like the X-Films where the bad guy is always Magneto. He is a good bad guy but Cap has others too.

Steampunk Ghost 03-26-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Artistsean (Post 22781751)
Well then, yeah, he will probably do it then. I just hope its not like the X-Films where the bad guy is always Magneto. He is a good bad guy but Cap has others too.

agreed. he definitely should come back, but if hes the villain in every single movie, that would ruin it. :cap:

The Overlord 03-27-2012 06:33 PM

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If the Skull comes back, he has better be far more evil like he is the comics. I think they kinda ruined the Skull in the first movie by distancing him from the Nazis too quickly. In the comics, Red Skull only gave up on Nazism decades later, feeling it had become outdated, but the Skull was still a Nazi in WWII and was Hitler's second in command, so he was fully involved with the crimes the Nazis committed. In the movie, that wasn't the case, so it made the Skull seem far less evil then he was in the comics.

R_Hythlodeus 03-28-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Overlord (Post 22795517)
If the Skull comes back, he has better be far more evil like he is the comics. I think they kinda ruined the Skull in the first movie by distancing him from the Nazis too quickly. In the comics, Red Skull only gave up on Nazism decades later, feeling it had become outdated, but the Skull was still a Nazi in WWII and was Hitler's second in command, so he was fully involved with the crimes the Nazis committed. In the movie, that wasn't the case, so it made the Skull seem far less evil then he was in the comics.

wait... I thought he left them, because they weren't evil enough for his tastes?

The Overlord 03-30-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by R_Hythlodeus (Post 22800529)
wait... I thought he left them, because they weren't evil enough for his tastes?

In the comics yes, but what evil feats did Red Skull accomplish in the movie? The Nazis conquered most of Europe and killed 12 million people in the Holocaust.
Hydra and the Skull failed to do anything, Red Skull not being involved in the crimes of the Third Reich made him less evil not more. Red Skull didn't commit any truly evil acts of personal sadism that his comic book counter part committed. Red Skull in the movies was kinda of punk, he never had a clear victor over Cap and kept on running away. You don't get points for effort with evil, you either succeed in committing evil deeds or you fail and failing to be evil isn't very scary. Sebastian Shaw in the movies was a far more evil Nazi style villain then the Skull was. Shaw killing Magneto's mother right before his eyes is far more evil then anything the Skull did in the movies.

FlashThompson 04-01-2012 11:01 PM

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I think the Skull should make an appearance at the end of the Avengers or CA2.

And when he does return he definitely needs to be more sinister and have a longer more brutal fight scene with the Cap.

The Infernal 04-04-2012 08:31 PM

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I would love to see him return. Though his character didn't have the greatest depth, I did enjoy Weaving's performance. I don't know how likely he is to return though, but if he does I would want to see the Red Skull explored more as a character.

psylockolussus 04-28-2012 05:50 AM

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I can see him returning with more power and a stronger army.

TheVileOne 04-29-2012 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Infernal (Post 22865323)
I would love to see him return. Though his character didn't have the greatest depth, I did enjoy Weaving's performance. I don't know how likely he is to return though, but if he does I would want to see the Red Skull explored more as a character.

I'd love to see some sort of an homage to that famous no dialogue story that gives you a look inside the head of Skull and how he sees everyone except himself as faceless.

BH/HHH 04-29-2012 08:42 AM

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I hope he returns at somepoint I'm really interested to know what actually happened to him. It looked like he ended up on Asgaard.

TheVileOne 05-02-2012 08:40 PM

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Maybe not Asgard but what about another of the 9 realms?

The Infernal 05-02-2012 09:21 PM

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Which begs the question, what has he been up to? I think answering that question may be a problem because you need the answer to be something that doesn't seem silly for him as a character. Sort of like you wouldn't have a movie where Spider-man flies a spaceship to take on Annihilus (at least not in his own movie).

Though they could just get around it by going the 90's Spider-man cartoon route and have it where he's essentially teleported from that moment to whenever they need him for a sequel or whatever. I don't really recall what the device was in the 90's cartoon, but it seemed vaguely teleport-ish and both he and Cap were stuck in it (and funnily enough would go back into until they were needed).

BH/HHH 05-03-2012 04:25 PM

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In the comics what happened to Red Skull between World War II and the time Cap woke up from his frozen state?

MarvelKnight 05-03-2012 05:17 PM

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In Spider-Man:TAS it was just an inter-dimensional machine that Cap and Skull were trapped in. They never had a specific name for it. Anyway In the series Red Skull had a son who freed Skull(along with Cap). at the end of that arc, Captain America sacrificed himself and took skull back into the machine where my guess is they were just frozen in time in another dimension for all time.

The Infernal 05-03-2012 09:26 PM

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Didn't his son turn out to be Electro and Chameleon was his brother?

MarvelKnight 05-03-2012 10:13 PM

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Yep.

"Electro" was the ultimate weapon. Not sure who was supposed don that persona in ww2 though but yeah it was his son.

Plus, he had the red-skull bots which were kind of cool.

crounsa810 05-05-2012 03:47 AM

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I'm thinking Red Skull is currently chilling out with
Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Thanos and "The Other ahemahemAnnihilusahem"


Think about it, his thing in CA was how he was a God, and how he left mortal men behind, what better way to bring him back than for him to be a slave to an actual immortal being, with true unlimited power. I think it would be awesome. I can see it in my head

TacomaTruck90 07-10-2012 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by crounsa810 (Post 23157411)
I'm thinking Red Skull is currently chilling out with
Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Thanos and "The Other ahemahemAnnihilusahem"


Think about it, his thing in CA was how he was a God, and how he left mortal men behind, what better way to bring him back than for him to be a slave to an actual immortal being, with true unlimited power. I think it would be awesome. I can see it in my head

That would explain why picture of the galaxy and space was shown before he disappeared ...

spideymouse 08-02-2012 03:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crounsa810 (Post 23157411)
I'm thinking Red Skull is currently chilling out with
Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Thanos and "The Other ahemahemAnnihilusahem"


Think about it, his thing in CA was how he was a God, and how he left mortal men behind, what better way to bring him back than for him to be a slave to an actual immortal being, with true unlimited power. I think it would be awesome. I can see it in my head

Is that kind of thing in tune with Red Skull's character, where he's a slave to an immortal being? I can't imagine him being someone else's pawn, no matter how powerful that someone is. He's already viewed as kind of weak from CA:TFA--I would think he deserves some redemption as one of the premier villains in the Marvel U.

That said, the idea makes sense.

3dman27 08-03-2012 07:38 AM

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herr scmidt coyld have risen to HYDRA leader while cap was frozen


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