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Squaremaster316 01-06-2013 10:29 PM

Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
Combination poll/rating.

Despite numerous franchises based on comics, only a handful have managed to make it to a 3rd film and beyond.

Based on those that have made it, which 3rd entry is your favorite?

Along with your fave, what is your rating for each of them?

For me:

Dark Knight Rises: [****] - [****1/4] depending on my mood.
Batman Forever: [**3/4]
Superman Returns: [**1/2] (If you ask Singer and Donner, it counts)
Spider-Man 3: [**1/2]
X-Men 3: [**]
Superman 3: [*1/4]

cherokeesam 01-06-2013 10:59 PM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
I understand including "Superman 3" on there, but what was "Superman Returns" the third installment of....? :huh:

You also left out my personal favorite third CBM installment: Blade Trinity.

Supermouse 01-07-2013 07:33 AM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
I think he included Superman Returns because that movie ignored the events of Supermans 3 and 4, making it an alternate continuity Supes 3.

Also, doesn't TDKR just punch all the other listed movies in the balls? It was certainly the best out of this lot for my money (Though I haven't seen Spidey 3, to be fair)

Edit: Adding ratings

TDKR: Darn good
X3: Awful
SR: Boring
BF: I liked it at the time, but now I can see how its success inevitably led us to B&R, and for that it cannot be forgiven)
S3: The one with Richard Pryor, right? Awful
S-M3: I don't think I've heard anything good about this movie.
Blade Trinity: Haven't seen this one either, but Mr. Cherokeesam's post above mine is the first I've ever seen of someone liking it.

Steyin 01-07-2013 10:33 AM

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While TDKR is probably the best technically, Batman Forever is the most enjoyable for myself. TDKR is too convoluted for me to appreciate it more so.

TheHeatKitchen 01-07-2013 10:48 AM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
I personally think that the final film of CBM trilogies have been pretty terrible

Dark Knight Rises - 7/10
Batman Forever - 4.5/10
X-Men 3 - 3/10
Blade Trinity - 2.5/10
Superman 3 - 2/10
Spider-Man 3 - 1/10

I don't count Superman Returns, but if I did, it'd be just above Spider-Man 3.

To me, Blade Trinity and Superman 3 had the same problem... introduce an comedic actor (Ryan Reynolds and Richard Pryor respectively) and "utilize" there comedic "value" way too much. They turned both movies into pathetic semi-comedies to me.

I'm willing to bet that Iron Man 3 will blow them all out of the water.

A Necessary Evil 01-07-2013 10:54 AM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
Dark Knight Rises - 10/10
Batman Forever - 6/10
X-Men 3 - 5/10
Blade Trinity - havent seen it
Superman 3 - havent seen it
Spider-Man 3 - 7/10

lordofthenerds 01-08-2013 09:11 PM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
TDKR is leagues above the other comic book movie threequels.

DarkKnight88 01-09-2013 09:56 AM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
Obviously this is a no brainer.

Hopefully Iron Man 3 knocks it out of the park as well.

kaijunexus 01-09-2013 10:03 AM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
TDKR is the obvious choice in this poll, but Iron Man 3 will be a huge contender for that position in May.

Son of Coul 01-09-2013 11:21 AM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
This isn't exactly the cream of the crop, but TDKR is easily the best. It had a buncha problems, mostly in the script, but at least they seemed like they actually gave a ****, which is already more than I can say for the others (other than SR I guess, but that was ultra-boring and too dependent on nostalgia for the Reeve series that I never had).

Hoping IM3 breaks the "third is always weakest" superhero movie trend. They did already break the "second is always better" trend, I suppose. :hehe:

spideymouse 01-09-2013 01:48 PM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Son of Coul (Post 24970517)
This isn't exactly the cream of the crop, but TDKR is easily the best. It had a buncha problems, mostly in the script, but at least they seemed like they actually gave a ****, which is already more than I can say for the others (other than SR I guess, but that was ultra-boring and too dependent on nostalgia for the Reeve series that I never had).

Hoping IM3 breaks the "third is always weakest" superhero movie trend. They did already break the "second is always better" trend, I suppose. :hehe:

Haha, nice one.

eddy 01-13-2013 03:53 PM

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Haven't seen Dark Knight Rises. All the other ones are crap.:doh: I ended up voting for Batman Forever since I liked it as a kid.

Mjölnir 01-31-2013 04:04 PM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
I hope this isn't a sign for Iron Man 3 because all of those third installations have some serious problems. TDKR is probably the best, but it had some quite significant problems so it stands out less on it's own merits and more on how bad the rest are.

I haven't seen Superman Returns, but that's because I'm no big fan of Superman and I was told by the only fan of him I know that the movie sucked.

JustSomeGuy 01-31-2013 04:12 PM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
I am apparently a part of an extremely tiny minority who loves Superman Returns. That is one of the few movies where I wouldn't change a single thing. All the others in the poll are pretty bad.

One of the reasons I am excited for Iron Man 3 is that I think this is the first time in a franchise where someone better was hired to complete the trilogy. I like Favreau's films but I just plain think Shane Black is more talented. I'm really glad Marvel did this; I don't think the same director should make more than 2 movies in a series. They just seem to run out of steam by the time the third one roles around.

Tony Stark 01-31-2013 05:14 PM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mjölnir (Post 25102695)
I hope this isn't a sign for Iron Man 3 because all of those third installations have some serious problems. TDKR is probably the best, but it had some quite significant problems so it stands out less on it's own merits and more on how bad the rest are.

I haven't seen Superman Returns, but that's because I'm no big fan of Superman and I was told by the only fan of him I know that the movie sucked.

I think IM3 has an advantage, because IM2 was judged by many to be not as good as the first film, where films like Spider-man 2, X2 and the Dark Knight, were viewed as better than their first installments.

They saved IM's greatest villain for last, and they saved a fan favorite story line, Extremis, for the final installment.

We'll see what happens.

Tony Stark 01-31-2013 05:18 PM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
Of the films listed, I'd have to say The Dark Knight Rises, although watching it again on BluRay, I do not think it's a very good movie, and in many cases rests on the laurels of the other two installments. There's some scenes that are just so over the top stupid and rediculous, they aren't any better than Emo Peter Parker dancing down the street. Like the cops bull rushing a bunch of tanks, with the one guy in his dress blues, because Gordon told him he didn't expect him to show up like that, or Talia's horrible death scene. I love the first two installments, but TDKR really is not a very good movie.

spideyboy_1111 01-31-2013 06:26 PM

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yeah that's right... i voted X3.. it was the least bad of the ones up there (And thats not saying much)

Spider-Vader 01-31-2013 09:33 PM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
TDKR is the only real movie on that list, hopefully IM3 can join it in May.

Vartha 01-31-2013 10:31 PM

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out of that set only Rises is really any good. I still like sm3 tho lol

Tony Stark 02-01-2013 11:07 AM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spideyboy_1111 (Post 25103485)
yeah that's right... i voted X3.. it was the least bad of the ones up there (And thats not saying much)

I think X3 gets a bad rep, mainly because of killing off some major characters, but it was not a bad movie. I voted for DKR, but X3 by far had more serious subject material, and doesn't have near as many groan worthy moments as DKR.

hey is it too late to change my vote? ;)

JB-the-Hunter 02-01-2013 09:47 PM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
TDKR isn't exactly "easily" the best of that list. At least Spider-Man 3, X-Men 3, and Batman forever were entertaining. TDKR wasn't that good and on top of that it was boring and anticlimactic. That said, it probably is the best of the bunch mainly due to the acting, direction, cinematography and score.

R_Hythlodeus 02-02-2013 09:16 AM

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I'm still waiting for a decent third CBM. All of them sucked. I hope IM3 will break that curse

Iron_Stark 02-02-2013 10:03 AM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Stark (Post 25103169)
I think IM3 has an advantage, because IM2 was judged by many to be not as good as the first film, where films like Spider-man 2, X2 and the Dark Knight, were viewed as better than their first installments.

They saved IM's greatest villain for last, and they saved a fan favorite story line, Extremis, for the final installment.

We'll see what happens.

I agree, I see IM3 like Indiana Jones 3, Ocean's Thirteen and Skyfall, meaning like Iron Man 2, those franchises second movies weren't as loved as the first one, and the third ones were viewed as great as the first movie.

JB-the-Hunter 02-03-2013 04:54 PM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R_Hythlodeus (Post 25111705)
I'm still waiting for a decent third CBM. All of them sucked. I hope IM3 will break that curse

Most likely will

ElMariachi 02-03-2013 05:26 PM

Re: Rank the 3rd CBM's in a franchise.
 
IM3 will be Last Crusade to IM2s TOD and IM1s Raiders. Or the Skyfall of the trilogy. I think Tony is a good comparison to Indy and Bond.


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