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Thread Manager 01-10-2013 12:17 PM

Re: TDKR Oscar Chances? - Part 1
 
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Thread Manager 01-10-2013 12:17 PM

Re: TDKR Oscar Chances?
 
This is a continuation thread, the old thread is Here

J.Howlett 01-10-2013 12:17 PM

Re: TDKR Oscar Chances? - Part 1
 
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Originally Posted by Tony Stark (Post 24976573)
I don't doubt that the shooting may have played a factor in individual voters. But come on man the whole Academy membership votes in secret on these things. I don't believe there was some vast conspiracy to say "don't vote for that, we don't want the negative publicity."

Remember this post when Zero Dark Thirty gets nothing at the ceremony.

Tony Stark 01-10-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by J.Howlett (Post 24976601)
Remember this post when Zero Dark Thirty gets nothing at the ceremony.

And how will that prove anything? The woman was already nominated and won for Hurt Locker. I fail to see the logic in your post, other than being upset that a movie you favor isn't going to win. Everyone pretty much knows on the list it's going to be Lincoln, and if not Argo is probably the dark horse of the group.

J.Howlett 01-10-2013 12:23 PM

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Here's something worth reading. http://scottalanmendelson.blogspot.c...b-is.html#more

Anno_Domini 01-10-2013 12:23 PM

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Agree with all of this.

http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/oscar...511-slideshow/

Mysteryman 01-10-2013 12:24 PM

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J, do you believe there was a conspiracy to shut out A Few Good Men?
the Academy didnt like that one either .
Sometimes, they just dont like a film.

Mysteryman 01-10-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Stark (Post 24976651)
And how will that prove anything? The woman was already nominated and won for Hurt Locker. I fail to see the logic in your post, other than being upset that a movie you favor isn't going to win. Everyone pretty much knows on the list it's going to be Lincoln, and if not Argo is probably the dark horse of the group.

With 11 nominations doesnt Life of PI have a chance?

Anno_Domini 01-10-2013 12:28 PM

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I'm massively shocked Life of Pi was nominated for Best Film.

Mysteryman 01-10-2013 12:36 PM

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Considering that film is a visual Medium and LOP was dominated by it's visuals,I am not surprised at all.

Kahran Ramsus 01-10-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysteryman (Post 24976687)
With 11 nominations doesnt Life of PI have a chance?

It certainly does. Lincoln is the favorite though.

Anno_Domini 01-10-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysteryman (Post 24976741)
Considering that film is a visual Medium and LOP was dominated by it's visuals,I am not surprised at all.

That's pretty much what I mean though. Just a visual friendly film and that's it.

Kane52630 01-10-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysteryman (Post 24976687)
With 11 nominations doesnt Life of PI have a chance?

That's my bet, Life of Pi was amazing in so many different ways. I'm glad it got nominated and I hope it sweeps the Oscars.

Tacit Ronin 01-10-2013 12:44 PM

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No cinematography hat trick for this franchise. Oh well.

No Hooper = Yay.

Tony Stark 01-10-2013 12:49 PM

Re: TDKR Oscar Chances? - Part 1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mysteryman (Post 24976687)
With 11 nominations doesnt Life of PI have a chance?

Yes, but I think Lincoln has it in the bag, but my darkhorse is Argo.

regwec 01-10-2013 12:56 PM

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Commiserations to all involved with TDKR. I said from the outset that it wouldn't win anything of substance, and nor did it deserve to on its own merits, but I am a bit surprised that it didn't manage to get any recognition in any technical category. The always seem to add a degree of insult to injury- for me, it is the predictable but unjustified feting of "Les Mis". Boring musical, horrid bourgeois music, boring cast, boring direction; safe Oscar-bait.

It is increasingly clear that there is a model "safe" Oscar film. It needs to have a suitably worthy topic- a literary adaptation or a historical biopic- a safe director, and an expensive cast. It shouldn't be too challenging or controversial. I am not saying that all movies of this type are bad, but it makes the Oscars a predictable and slightly pointless exercise, because movies get trimmed and polished to suit the formula. It has probably made film less interesting. A similar process has occurred in the production of fine wine: because high ratings from certain critics increase the market value of wines, their producers just make them to the individual critics' taste, and now different wines taste much alike.

I digress. Boo-hiss to "Les Mis". I know it is divisive here, but I hope that "Skyfall" gets its cinematography award, which it richly deserves.

Tacit Ronin 01-10-2013 12:57 PM

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Boring direction? That would almost be an improvement. Horrendous direction is more like it.

Tony Stark 01-10-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by regwec (Post 24976869)
Commiserations to all involved with TDKR. I said from the outset that it wouldn't win anything of substance, and nor did it deserve to on its own merits, but I am a bit surprised that it didn't manage to get any recognition in any technical category. The always seem to add a degree of insult to injury- for me, it is the predictable but unjustified feting of "Les Mis". Boring musical, horrid bourgeois music, boring cast, boring direction; safe Oscar-bait.

It is increasingly clear that there is a model "safe" Oscar film. It needs to have a suitably worthy topic- a literary adaptation or a historical biopic- a safe director, and an expensive cast. It shouldn't be too challenging or controversial. I am not saying that all movies of this type are bad, but it makes the Oscars a predictable and slightly pointless exercise, because movies get trimmed and polished to suit the formula. It has probably made film less interesting. A similar process has occurred in the production of fine wine: because high ratings from certain critics increase the market value of wines, their producers just make them to the individual critics' taste, and now different wines taste much alike.

I digress. Boo-hiss to "Les Mis". I know it is divisive here, but I hope that "Skyfall" gets its cinematography award, which it richly deserves.

The only thing TDKR had a chance at was Cinemetography and Skyfall pretty much knocked it out of that catagory.

I disagree about Les Mis, but that's a matter of opinion I suppose.

MagnarTheGreat 01-10-2013 01:06 PM

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Their BP winner will be one of these five:
Amour **
Beasts of the Southern Wild **
Life of Pi **
Lincoln **
Silver Linings Playbook **

Because they were also nominated for best director and best screenplay (original or adapted). The winner will be whichever appeals most to these.

Anno_Domini 01-10-2013 01:13 PM

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Lincoln, no doubt. While I wanted TDKR to be nominated, I always felt Lincoln would win Best Film.

BatLobsterRises 01-10-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Stark (Post 24976825)
Yes, but I think Lincoln has it in the bag, but my darkhorse is Argo.

I'd love for it to be true, but it's chances are looking significantly slimmer with Affleck getting snubbed for directing.

Also, I really feel Zimmer deserved a nomination this time, regardless of what his chances were. TDKR's score was some of his most propulsive, scary and inspiring work to date. And yes, I think the chant was daring and iconic.

Liam_H 01-10-2013 01:51 PM

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Argo is basically dead along with ZDT with no BD nomination. SLP is probably the darkhorse with so many major nominations.

Dr. 01-10-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by J.Howlett (Post 24976663)

Without access to the ballot numbers, it’s tricky to call any omission an organized conspiracy or “moral outrage.” Yes, if a highly regarded film/talent gets zero votes, it could be an indication of something fishy. But for all we know, Bigelow might have placed a strong sixth place - missing the cut by only one or two votes.

Also - ZDT did get nominated for best film and screenplay.

Ryan 01-10-2013 02:43 PM

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Did Batman Begins get any Oscar nominations or win anything?

Pfeiffer-Pfan 01-10-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan (Post 24977549)
Did Batman Begins get any Oscar nominations or win anything?

Nominated for Best Cinematography.


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