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Lord 06-30-2013 12:01 PM

For how long will the MCU go?
 
Before being rebooted i mean, by the end of 2015 the franchise will already be 12 films and a tv show, for how many years can this thing go before being rebooted or failing so hard it disappears completelly? Even Bond had to be eventually rebooted.

What are your guesses? The end of Phase 3? 10 years from now? Or will it continue to increasingly expand and have other heroes take the spotlight as time goes?

SoNicRaDiATioN 06-30-2013 12:27 PM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
Like you said, it depends on how successful it is going forward. It seems inevitable it'll be rebooted at some point. My feeling is that Marvel Studios is just scratching the surface from both a creative and financial standpoint. I'd guess that we'll see this universe go to the end of phase 4 at the very least.

Heliflyer 06-30-2013 12:54 PM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
Follow the old formulas; westerns lasted about 12-17 years in their heyday then took a long hiatus, until Clint Eastwood's "Unforgiven" hit the screens, giving a little new life to the genre.

Star Wars reignited the passion for Sci-Fi, but that wained for a while during the late 80s into the early 90s.

As an educated guess, CBMs will run their current popularity arc in about another eight years. The next generation of filmgoers will be looking for new thrills and something different from their "square" parents' likes.

There will be a dip in the amount of productions per year, and then about 15 to 20 years after there will be a resurgence of the genre.

bubbadoom 06-30-2013 02:58 PM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
Was Bond "rebooted"?

These Daniel Craig films work more like prequels than reboots as the end of SKYFALL takes us back to the point where DR. NO begins.

Superman took 35 years to reboot - I see no reason for Marvel to do so any sooner...

Green Goblin 06-30-2013 03:14 PM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
Like the Comics, I can see the MCU going for 15-20 years

Lord 06-30-2013 03:53 PM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bubbadoom (Post 26250099)
Was Bond "rebooted"?

These Daniel Craig films work more like prequels than reboots as the end of SKYFALL takes us back to the point where DR. NO begins.

Superman took 35 years to reboot - I see no reason for Marvel to do so any sooner...

New timeline, diferente technology and year they take place, Daniel Cragi's Bond needed 3 films to finally reboot the character but they were reboots.

jonathancrane 06-30-2013 03:57 PM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
It is contingent on the success of the films; from the perspective as a fan and screenwriter, rebooting is unfathomable at this point. If anything, the MCU has just gotten started, and they have pierced only the top of the proverbial iceberg, in terms of arcs and storytelling.

Donut 06-30-2013 03:58 PM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3b8LswWO1A

Hammer! 06-30-2013 04:06 PM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
The MCU is one of the most innovative filmmaking devices in history. I hope it never ends, and as long as the produce quality films akin to their last four (Thor, CA:TFA, Avengers, and Iron Man 3) it probably won't.

BlackFox 06-30-2013 04:20 PM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
Problems may appear if established, fan favourite actors get too old for the role/too expensive and are replaced with inferior talent if not re-cast wisely, otherwise the limits are well limitless.

R_Hythlodeus 06-30-2013 07:26 PM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
I don't get some peoples obsession with reboots.
by that logic the whole 616 MU would have been rebooted in what? 1967?
there are no limits on how much stories can be told in this universe. so why reboot it so shortly after it started? makes no sense.

psylockolussus 06-30-2013 08:10 PM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
If the X-Men film series managed to go on for 13 years now without doing a reboot, I don't see why MCU can't. Especially its universe is so large! MCU should go on for 25 years and after that do a reboot.

Reboot is only necessary when the actors are too old to play their role again, if the movies are no longer selling a lot of tickets and if the quality of the movies are not good anymore and of course in 2040, people would want to see an updated / modern take of these films.

Visualiza 06-30-2013 08:51 PM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
The MCU will keep going for as long as the money keeps flowing in, it's as simple as that.

Even in the case of Bond, I don't think that it necessarily had to be rebooted, it was just a decision that was settled upon.

The best way to keep things fresh is to rotate the active lineup of characters. My only hope is that quality isn't sacrificed for the sake of keeping the factory alive. People like Feige will prevent that somewhat, which is why I always worry when it comes time for someone like him to step down.

lozzy.94 07-01-2013 06:21 AM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
I cant picture the MCU ever getting rebooted. Once the actors are to old the play these characters I think they will simply recast but keep it in the same continuity.

Silvermoth 07-01-2013 06:29 AM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
I think they'll just reboot like the comics. Captain America was sort of rebooted telling more of the origin when brubaker took over and I reckon when they get new talent that's what they'll do

cherokeesam 07-01-2013 08:50 AM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
There's absolutely no reason that Marvel Studios would try to commit suicide by "rebooting" their gold mine.

Yes, someday people will get tired of the superhero subgenre, just as they got tired of any other subgenre you can think of. Once that happens, a reboot would be meaningless, and seen as a cheap act of desperation. Instead, when that sad day comes, Marvel Studios will likely just quietly close up shop and be happy with a long and successful run.

I estimate that day will happen 53 years from now.

xeno000 07-01-2013 09:55 AM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Heliflyer (Post 26249093)
Follow the old formulas; westerns lasted about 12-17 years in their heyday then took a long hiatus, until Clint Eastwood's "Unforgiven" hit the screens, giving a little new life to the genre.

Westerns as a popular genre actually lasted for several decades. Some of the earliest films made were westerns, and their popularity lasted until the late '60s - early '70s, until Eastwood's spaghetti films wrung the last few dollars out of it.

Lord 07-01-2013 09:58 AM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xeno000 (Post 26256051)
Westerns as a popular genre actually lasted for several decades. Some of the earliest films made were westerns, and their popularity lasted until the late '60s - early '70s, until Eastwood's spaghetti films wrung the last few dollars out of it.

Was that a reference? :woot:

xeno000 07-01-2013 10:10 AM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord (Post 26256067)
Was that a reference? :woot:

A few more or a fist full of them, take your pick. :cwink:

S. Grundy 07-01-2013 10:28 AM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
I don't think it will ever get rebooted, why would it?

They'll just keep recasting without losing the history.

DrCosmic 07-01-2013 10:38 AM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
It all depends on if the Iron Man recasting is successful. If so, they'll go for perhaps 30 or 40 years, before it implodes on its own weight, though there's always the chance taht some outside force related to finance or politics stops it.

If not, we can only reasonably expect 5-10 more years.

metaphysician 07-08-2013 08:51 AM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
I don't think the MCU will be rebooted. It will be *recast*, but there won't be an actual reboot. Feige has said, time and again, that they will try and follow a Bond model.

As for how long things will remain popular? Honestly, I suspect the sky is the limit; as long as they keep producing good movies, people will keep going to them.

Mr. Dent 07-08-2013 09:51 AM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DrCosmic (Post 26256279)
It all depends on if the Iron Man recasting is successful. If so, they'll go for perhaps 30 or 40 years, before it implodes on its own weight, though there's always the chance taht some outside force related to finance or politics stops it.

If not, we can only reasonably expect 5-10 more years.

5 is too low. You should say 8-10. They already have movies with release dates set 4 years from now and surely have plans for movie beyond that.

blalex620 07-09-2013 04:27 AM

Re: For how long will the MCU go?
 
As far as genres are concerned, the "superhero" genre has a good chance of becoming a staple genre. It could become that kind of genre that you know you'll get 2-3, maybe more, films a year. Same way with horror, action, romcom, comedy etc. The only thing is will it continue to produce quality films or will studios start getting lazy because they know people will still come see them.
This translate to the reboots in that if they continue making good money after the first recast (which is looking to be RDJ after A3) then there won't be a reboot like how all other CBMs have so far.

Eventually, they will have to do a sort of "soft reboot" to reintroduce the origins of the characters again. But that won't be for another 10-15 years. Basically when the next generation is hitting their teens. However, when they have to do this I think they may not do a full blown origin story and may instead decide to do a flashback origins type of thing when they recast the characters at that time.

And yes, WB/DC will be following their example once if they get it right.


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