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DavidTyler 07-14-2013 09:00 AM

should the comics change to mirror the movie
 
Personally, I strongly Dislike What DiDio And Lee Have Done With Superman In Their 52 Reboot. Id LIke To See It scrapped And Replaced With The Concept Of Man Of steel..... Starting With The Costume.

Your Thoughts?

Man-of-Tomorrow 07-15-2013 03:41 AM

Re: should the comics change to mirror the movie
 
I enjoyed the New 52 origin well enough, but I deeply disliked what Morrison did with the rest of his run.
I absolutely loved Man of Steel. Especially given what Lee's MoS converted drawings from "For Tomorrow," I would love to see that as the permanent suit!
I can't see it happening, but I would love MoS to be adapted into the official origin.
I would not resolve the Zod problem as in the movie, though. I love him as a villain, and I think DC would need him to share the fate of his subordinates.

That said I have enjoyed "Superman," post-Morrison "Action," and "Unchained." A lot of great stuff so far, especially in Unchained.

smallville fan 07-15-2013 04:18 AM

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Wait so the new 52 look came from Man of Steel? Sorry if it came across as stupid, I am actually learning this for the first time.

jocal62 07-15-2013 11:18 AM

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The New 52 Superman costume is the worst there is and the worst there will ever be. Jim Lee just destroyed the Superman mythos with a Chinese-collared Superman costume. Of what use is a Chinese collar to Superman? Just because Jim Lee is of Chinese descent means his Superman take should be Chinese influenced?

It is only because of Jim Lee's Superman costume that I totally avoided The New 52 series.

Human Torch 07-15-2013 09:56 PM

Re: should the comics change to mirror the movie
 
...I'm pretty sure Lee is Korean.Just sayin'.....

Man-of-Tomorrow 07-16-2013 12:40 AM

Re: should the comics change to mirror the movie
 
.... A lot of people don't like the new 52 suit, but calling the collar Chinese is definitely a new one for me.......
Anyway, Smallville Fan, the drawings I am referring to are a series of drawings by Jim Lee that reworked classic drawings of his ( from the Azzarello/Lee "For Tomorrow") featuring the Man of Steel suit.
The new 52 and MoS suit have little to do with each other.

Shikamaru 07-16-2013 01:13 AM

Re: should the comics change to mirror the movie
 
I'm not fond of a lot of things in the New 52 including Superman's new suit, Lois being pushed back as a love interest in favor of Wonder Woman, Lois and Clark apparently not working for the DP anymore, the fact that people apparently still don't trust Superman even though he has been active for many years now, the Justice League turning more into "Superman & friends, etc.

I wouldn't mind having the comics be more like MoS for the better. MoS itself is a modern imagining of Superman meant to introduce the character to a new generation so the idea of making the current comics more like it is not that bad. I thought they found a great balance between Superman's god-like presence and humanity. They established Superman as a powerful God towering above all humans while still remembering the fact that on the inside, Superman is human before he is Kryptonian and is a moral man from Kansas. The New 52 lacks that balance most of the time. Their Superman is often on one side or the other from what I've read.

Plus, MoS was heavily influenced by the John Byrne run. It would be nice to see some of that stuff come back. :yay:

I don't see a problem with making the comics more like MoS. If Marvel is allowed to have a fetish of making their comics more like the movies despite it being completely unnecessary in most of their cases, I don't see why DC can't. If anything, DC should take advantage of whenever a film version of their character is successful on the big screen since they often struggle with their characters in the comics more than Marvel does (not always but on average).

But then again, I've never been a big Superman fan to begin with. A hardcore Superman fan might feel differently.

smallville fan 07-16-2013 04:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shikamaru (Post 26366383)
I'm not fond of a lot of things in the New 52 including Superman's new suit, Lois being pushed back as a love interest in favor of Wonder Woman, Lois and Clark apparently not working for the DP anymore, the fact that people apparently still don't trust Superman even though he has been active for many years now, the Justice League turning more into "Superman & friends, etc.

I wouldn't mind having the comics be more like MoS for the better. MoS itself is a modern imagining of Superman meant to introduce the character to a new generation so the idea of making the current comics more like it is not that bad. I thought they found a great balance between Superman's god-like presence and humanity. They established Superman as a powerful God towering above all humans while still remembering the fact that on the inside, Superman is human before he is Kryptonian and is a moral man from Kansas. The New 52 lacks that balance most of the time. Their Superman is often on one side or the other from what I've read.

Plus, MoS was heavily influenced by the John Byrne run. It would be nice to see some of that stuff come back. :yay:

I don't see a problem with making the comics more like MoS. If Marvel is allowed to have a fetish of making their comics more like the movies despite it being completely unnecessary in most of their cases, I don't see why DC can't. If anything, DC should take advantage of whenever a film version of their character is successful on the big screen since they often struggle with their characters in the comics more than Marvel does (not always but on average).

But then again, I've never been a big Superman fan to begin with. A hardcore Superman fan might feel differently.

I felt Man of Steel's story line mostly borrowed from Superman: Earth One as well as some cues taken from Superman: Brainiac and Death & Return of Superman and a pinch of Birthright. I mean if you replace Tyrell with Zod you almost have the same story. Clark acts as a drifter, the world he lives in is rather bleak and cynical and the designs of the spaceships, the action, how Metropolis looks after the big battle etc comes from Earth One.

Szetsilya 08-11-2013 07:22 PM

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I for sure think the comics need to adopt MOS suit. The one they have now is atrocious and makes it look like be is wearing a diaper.
As for the thing I will no longer mention, I hope the movies NEVER bring her in EVER!

Xak-Ell 08-11-2013 11:07 PM

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i honestly feel as if its the other way around at the moment

Comics N' Toons 08-17-2013 12:03 PM

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No. Movies should always be influenced by and follow comic books... with every property all the time. it is what movies are based upon. the farther you get from source material the worse the film medium and the comics medium becomes.


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