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L0ngsh0t 07-22-2013 11:24 AM

Vin Diesel Theroy
 
It has been a super long time since I have posted anything but the rush of Comi-Com stuff this past week has me all worked up.

I'm especially curious to see who Vin is playing. I think Vin is a pretty strong actor of his archetype. For a screen heavy/muscle he can hold his own and just completely oozes charisma and seems to have chemistry with anyone he shares the screen with. He's not gonna win an Academy Award but I think he'd be perfect in MCU where a larger than life personality is more valuable than straight acting chops (why Chris Pratt seems like the perfect fit in MCU).

It's heavily rumored he is playing Vision or voicing Groot or Rocket Racoon. and I don't love this idea. If he ends up being Vision I will be cool with it cause I like Vin....but I think there are better fits out there. Vision is a role that I think will require a little more subdued performance, and while I think Vinny can pull it off it's not playing to his strengths being that he can completely lighten up the screen with his cocky smile and command your attention with his booming voice.

Groot again, I don't love. I don't think you sign up Vin to play an animated character. I could kinda see him being Rocket Racoon because I think that role would be able to showcase his personality, but again I think there are better roles for Vin and better choices for RR.

I think he could be a good Luke Cage, Sub-Mariner, maybe even Nova...there are a bunch of heroes I think he could pull off but I'm gonna give you my PREDICTION that I don't think has been discussed.

Kevin Feige said Vin's role they are discussing is a "Ways down the road" if it gets too it, which is the echo of another character in MCU: Thanos.

It sounds like Thanos will have a "puppet master" role but not the forefront villain of GOTG and similarly with other Phase 2 movies...but it now appears they are saving him for A3.

I think they are think Vinny for Thanos consider some stats:
1) Vin has a great voice for a Titan villain, that dark graspy voice would be perfect for a god-like entity of evil.

2)Vin is an incredible physical actor who could realistically go to town in a fight between him and Hemsworth, which is important.

3) Vin is box office draw. I get the impression Vin is worth 100 million to a movie, being that even if the movie blows it will likely get to 100 million because people like Vin. If it's good the sky is the limit like Fast and Furious franchise (and note the box office difference between movies with and without Vin). Putting him in GOTG would be a safe move to guarantee at least it doesn't bomb out, even if it doesn't find it's audience. and Vin's inclusion in Avengers 3 alongside RDJ, Sam Jackson etc would be the action movie cast of a life time

4) Considering the level of screen presence in these Avengers movies they need someone to play Thanos that can go toe-to-toe with Robert Downey Jr and not get every scene stolen. Thanos can't be a peripheral character who bows to another character because it's cool....he's the forefront threat of MCU, the narrative thread that ties everything together...he's a big deal, and on screen he needs an actor who can command his own scenes and have on screen presence even when he shares it with RDJ

5) they need an actor worthy of signing a big 3-6 picture deal and weave in and out of these movies like Sam Jackson with Fury


thoughts?

pr0xyt0xin 07-22-2013 11:34 AM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
Theeeroyyyy jenkinsss....

pr0xyt0xin 07-22-2013 11:38 AM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
But seriously, I think he's Vision.

Do you really want Vin Diesel to play the most powerful villain in the MCU? Vin Diesel to be the reason The Avengers get out of bed in the morning?

And do you really think Vin Diesel can go toe-to-toe with RDJ?

weezerspider 07-22-2013 12:26 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
Vin Diesel was good in Saving Private Ryan, he should have retired then.

DrCosmic 07-22-2013 12:37 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
Vin can go toe to toe with RDJ. He just can't be all weebly wobbly, but if I see Toretto staring down Tony Stark, I don't think 'well, Vin isn't as versatile an actor.' It just a different type of power they're bringing against each other.

But yeah: Ultron

Vin wants to play a villain, like this robot
Vin has a kick-arse voice, like any villainous robot
Vin doesn't have a large emotional range, like a robot
There was nothing to announce, so... it can't be for Cap2 or GOTG where we saw the cast

It's not the GOTG, we saw that cast at the panel.

jaqua99 07-22-2013 01:02 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
i say vision, and btw you spelled "theory" wrong lol


we didnt see thanos on the gotg panel though

DrCosmic 07-22-2013 01:29 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
Good point... I have ideas about that, but I honestly don't know.

scifiwolf 07-22-2013 01:54 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
:funny:
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaqua99 (Post 26432455)
i say vision, and btw you spelled "theory" wrong lol


we didnt see thanos on the gotg panel though

:funny: I'm naming my first born "Theroy". I like it!

Iowa 07-22-2013 02:24 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
I think he's the voice for Rocket Raccoon

TheHeatKitchen 07-22-2013 03:08 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
I'm thinking just the voice of Ultron.

Tony Stark 07-22-2013 03:24 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scifiwolf (Post 26432957)
:funny:

:funny: I'm naming my first born "Theroy". I like it!

THEROY JENKINS!!!!!! :woot:

Mr. Dent 07-22-2013 04:03 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
Given what Feige said, I don't think he's playing Vision anymore.

L0ngsh0t 07-22-2013 04:50 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0xyt0xin (Post 26431681)
But seriously, I think he's Vision.

Do you really want Vin Diesel to play the most powerful villain in the MCU? Vin Diesel to be the reason The Avengers get out of bed in the morning?

And do you really think Vin Diesel can go toe-to-toe with RDJ?


Misspelling theory isn't a great start to gaining credibility lol


I would counter your second question with this: would a lesser personality be able to go toe-to-toe with RDJ? Say Luke Evans, who physically can also be a realistic foe....RDJ is gonna steal all the big Thanos scenes as might Chris Pratt....Luke Evans was the bad guy in Fast Six for a reason, he's a good actor and doesn't require a ton of screen time because they had a personality heavy lineup in the good guys department.

I do think they need a legitimate A-lister to pull of Thanos. I think Vin would do well and I think he'd give the role some series weight (outside of his bulky 200 pound frame) as a big screen heavy.

Thanos has to be someone worth building towards....not to harp on Luke Evans, he's just the guy that comes to mind as a quality actor who would get eaten alive for scenes, but if it's Luke Evans or Damon Porter guy, or someone else....Not the greatest thing ever....but if it's Vin Diesel and you tease him and build towards something in a few movies I think you could have a foe that brings the requisite amount of fear to the Avengers and will command his own screen presence as opposed to being just give scenes because that is the way it goes.

L0ngsh0t 07-22-2013 05:52 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
http://www.**************.com/fansit.../news/?a=83945

Mr. Dent 07-22-2013 05:58 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
.....VisionxScarlet Witch....0.0

Saitou Hajime 07-22-2013 10:30 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/07/2...diesel-marvel/

Quote:

And what about that big Marvel announcement? Although Diesel really couldn’t divulge any information, he says that “Marvel was excited about bring a different kind of relationship, a different kind of love story, I guess kind of inspired from the Dom-Letty relationship, into the Marvel universe.”
Thanos/Death or Vision/Wanda?

Spider-Vader 07-22-2013 11:49 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
He should be both Ultron & Vision.

VictusMortuus 07-22-2013 11:52 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saitou Hajime (Post 26439257)


Black Bolt/Medusa

Mr. Dent 07-23-2013 12:13 AM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
Vin Diesel's Facebook header is now The Vision....pretty sure he's Vision.

Spider-Vader 07-23-2013 12:36 AM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VictusMortuus (Post 26439975)
Black Bolt/Medusa

They're not going to get Vin Diesel for him to be quiet for 2 hours.

GriffinSTatum 07-23-2013 01:07 AM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Dent (Post 26440211)
Vin Diesel's Facebook header is now The Vision....pretty sure he's Vision.

I tried looking for his official Facebook page but to no avail, do you have a link to it?

Wine-N-Cheese 07-23-2013 01:31 AM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
Hmmm...the way Feige was talking, I didn't think Vin was going to be in the MCU anytime soon.

Anyway, I think he's a tad too dudebro to play Vision. I'd prefer someone leaner, and more intellectual.

Mr. Dent 07-23-2013 02:47 AM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GriffinSTatum (Post 26440635)
I tried looking for his official Facebook page but to no avail, do you have a link to it?

Looks like he took it down.

Pink Ranger 07-23-2013 10:50 AM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
I like Vin Diesel, but if wants to play Avengers, I'm calling baby brother rules on him: give him the lame action figure nobody wants and see what he does with it. Dane Whitman, I'm looking in your direction.

TomPiltoff 07-23-2013 03:08 PM

Re: Vin Diesel Theroy
 
I hope Vin Diesel stays far away from Marvel movies, and if he has to be included let it be post-Ultron.

Dude is an awful actor, and seems to have a big ego as well.


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