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Thread Manager 08-07-2013 04:48 PM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 1
 
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Thread Manager 08-07-2013 04:48 PM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux
 
This is a continuation thread, the old thread is Here

R_Hythlodeus 08-07-2013 04:48 PM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 1
 
the tumblr hivemind is a weird place...

BigThor 08-07-2013 04:52 PM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 1
 
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Originally Posted by R_Hythlodeus (Post 26581533)
the tumblr hivemind is a weird place...

Tell me about it :doh:

OstrichsRevenge 08-07-2013 04:53 PM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 2
 
To Farren:

I think it's legit. Other members on the Thor thread have noticed that Loki seems to be injured in that picture. Looks like he's bleeding from the head. Thor looks pretty banged up in the trailer as well. Must be one hell of a battle.

BigThor 08-07-2013 04:57 PM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 2
 
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Originally Posted by OstrichsRevenge (Post 26581561)
To Farren:

I think it's legit. Other members on the Thor thread have noticed that Loki seems to be injured in that picture. Looks like he's bleeding from the head. Thor looks pretty banged up in the trailer as well. Must be one hell of a battle.

Well Kurse is in that scene as well, so he probably puts a whooping on the brothers from Regard. Hell it might be Malekith, his dark elves, and Kurse vs Thor and Loki by themselves.

747 08-07-2013 05:36 PM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 2
 
Loki's reaction to Jane's slapping is brilliant. Loved every bit with Loki in the trailer, such a magnetic character/performance. :)

jaqua99 08-07-2013 06:04 PM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 2
 
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Originally Posted by OstrichsRevenge (Post 26581561)
To Farren:

I think it's legit. Other members on the Thor thread have noticed that Loki seems to be injured in that picture. Looks like he's bleeding from the head. Thor looks pretty banged up in the trailer as well. Must be one hell of a battle.

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Originally Posted by BigThor (Post 26581587)
Well Kurse is in that scene as well, so he probably puts a whooping on the brothers from Regard. Hell it might be Malekith, his dark elves, and Kurse vs Thor and Loki by themselves.


Exactly what I was thinking.

Nothing is up with Loki's face other than simply signs of physical damage. That's all. No distortions, no eyes ripped out lol, see definitely is bleeding from the head, Thor is on the ground. Malekith is hovering Jane, Kurse is standing there like a boss.

I would assume that Kurse simply gave Thor and Loki a solid beatdown


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herolee10 08-07-2013 07:11 PM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 2
 
To reply back to one of the latter posts from the last thread in regards to Loki showing no fear at everyone's threats at him, I think another thing to consider is the fact that this is a guy who's not only encountered someone like Thanos already, but probably knows as well that there's a bounty on his head due to his failure on Earth, thus when you have someone like Thanos on your tail, anything less/else does little to phase you.

jaqua99 08-07-2013 07:21 PM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 2
 
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Originally Posted by herolee10 (Post 26582439)
To reply back to one of the latter posts from the last thread in regards to Loki showing no fear at everyone's threats at him, I think another thing to consider is the fact that this is a guy who's not only encountered someone like Thanos already, but probably knows as well that there's a bounty on his head due to his failure on Earth, thus when you have someone like Thanos on your tail, anything less/else does little to phase you.

Exactly. After the other's threats, anything Sif or Volstagg has to say to him is probably irrelevant

Loki882 08-07-2013 10:02 PM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 2
 
Not to mention he already got his ass kicked by the Hulk. Sif and Volstagg must seem like tame puppies in comparison.

jaqua99 08-07-2013 10:21 PM

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Yeah, and he apparently is going to get his ass kicked by Kurse. Hopefully. Love that he's there, but the destroyer hasn't left my mind yet. In fact, the two villains we've seen have been underpowered.

OstrichsRevenge 08-07-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jaqua99 (Post 26584289)
Yeah, and he apparently is going to get his ass kicked by Kurse. Hopefully. Love that he's there, but the destroyer hasn't left my mind yet. In fact, the two villains we've seen have been underpowered.

Agreed about the underpowered thing. I always had the impression in the first movie that Loki was capable of much more, but held back. He used his powers in a subtle manner and the movie portrayed that. This movie will be the chance for him to let loose his powers. The first movie was tricks, this one should be sorcery.

jaqua99 08-07-2013 10:59 PM

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I thought that, yet he didn't do too much in avengers either. Really hope he displays more sorcery. I want to see Loki and thor have a powers fight, possibly surrounded by storms, with thor using lightning, and Loki creating magic shields, and shooting energy projectiles.

It just irks me, I mean, he has a totally different powerset than Thor, but it can certainly be argued Loki at some points is every bit as powerful as Thor, sometimes even more. Pretty sure he one shotted Beta Ray Bill...and what he did to Bor, someone who was powerful enough to kill thor with one blow...I really want to see him display some awesome power.

herolee10 08-07-2013 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jaqua99 (Post 26584681)
I thought that, yet he didn't do too much in avengers either. Really hope he displays more sorcery. I want to see Loki and thor have a powers fight, possibly surrounded by storms, with thor using lightning, and Loki creating magic shields, and shooting energy projectiles.

It just irks me, I mean, he has a totally different powerset than Thor, but it can certainly be argued Loki at some points is every bit as powerful as Thor, sometimes even more. Pretty sure he one shotted Beta Ray Bill...and what he did to Bor, someone who was powerful enough to kill thor with one blow...I really want to see him display some awesome power.

What's also sad is that unlike Thor, they've not really shown what Loki is capable of doing when he doesn't have some magical powerful staff in his possession. The impression that the MCU gives of Loki is that his main offensive powers comes more from his weapons than his own skills, where his physical strength and durability is seemingly only useful when he's going up against human beings or super soldiers.

Iron Man and Hulk are presented in having a good offensive stance against him, especially the latter.

Loki882 08-07-2013 11:09 PM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 2
 
He had all of the Avengers at each others throats, so he was still messing with their heads. He also sent the Hulk on a rampage that almost killed Thor and BW. He used mind control on Hawkeye, Selvig, and several SHIELD agents. He cast multiple illusions. He wasn't powerless in the movie.

Loki882 08-07-2013 11:10 PM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 2
 
IM knocked Loki down, but the repulsers did NO real damage. Loki got up a couple of seconds later and was unharmed. Loki could kill IM easily if he wanted to.

herolee10 08-07-2013 11:29 PM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 2
 
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Originally Posted by Loki882 (Post 26584769)
He had all of the Avengers at each others throats, so he was still messing with their heads. He also sent the Hulk on a rampage that almost killed Thor and BW. He used mind control on Hawkeye, Selvig, and several SHIELD agents. He cast multiple illusions. He wasn't powerless in the movie.

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Originally Posted by Loki882 (Post 26584777)
IM knocked Loki down, but the repulsers did NO real damage. Loki got up a couple of seconds later and was unharmed. Loki could kill IM easily if he wanted to.

My main point was that the film itself didn't do such a great job in showing Loki having such a big advantage on the group.

It's pretty much common sense that Loki would be stronger than Captain America, Black widow, and Hawkeye, let alone any human being.

I'm not saying that he was powerless..but they didn't give him that many offensive powers other than super strength when he didn't have his staff.

Plus, it was more of the staff's doing that caused Hulk to go on a rampage, not Loki I'd argue unless it was insinuated that Loki could use the staff when he wasn't touching it.

And not once did I see Loki having a upper hand on Iron Man in any of their confrontations. Sure, Iron Man's blasts didn't really damage him, but they always threw him off his feet and we never saw Loki ever get a crack at "Iron Man" (not Tony Stark).

Plus, Thor pretty much owned Loki and the only time that Loki got any good kicks in was when Thor's guard was down.

jaqua99 08-08-2013 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by herolee10 (Post 26584763)
What's also sad is that unlike Thor, they've not really shown what Loki is capable of doing when he doesn't have some magical powerful staff in his possession. The impression that the MCU gives of Loki is that his main offensive powers comes more from his weapons than his own skills, where his physical strength and durability is seemingly only useful when he's going up against human beings or super soldiers.

Iron Man and Hulk are presented in having a good offensive stance against him, especially the latter.

bingo

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Originally Posted by Loki882 (Post 26584769)
He had all of the Avengers at each others throats, so he was still messing with their heads. He also sent the Hulk on a rampage that almost killed Thor and BW. He used mind control on Hawkeye, Selvig, and several SHIELD agents. He cast multiple illusions. He wasn't powerless in the movie.

All of that, because of an artifact. What did we see him do under his own power? What illusions did he cast, besides duplicates of himself?

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Originally Posted by Loki882 (Post 26584777)
IM knocked Loki down, but the repulsers did NO real damage. Loki got up a couple of seconds later and was unharmed. Loki could kill IM easily if he wanted to.

Sure, they did no effect, but what has Loki offensively done to Iron man.

They made it clear that Iron man could take Loki one on one. MCU, I don't think it's the case, but the way it was portrayed, herolee10 said it perfectly.

he wasn't as offensively tough as he should have been

KittyDuran 08-08-2013 04:31 AM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 2
 
Wonder how much damage Loki sustained from the end of Thor to the beginning of the Avengers. He might have had his powers drained. Going back to Asgard and possibly healed... Maybe not in the healing room but before he was confined. It could have happened out of the goodness of Odin's/Frigga's heart or standard procedure for a citizen of Asgard.

xeno000 08-08-2013 05:35 AM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 2
 
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Originally Posted by herolee10 (Post 26582439)
To reply back to one of the latter posts from the last thread in regards to Loki showing no fear at everyone's threats at him, I think another thing to consider is the fact that this is a guy who's not only encountered someone like Thanos already, but probably knows as well that there's a bounty on his head due to his failure on Earth, thus when you have someone like Thanos on your tail, anything less/else does little to phase you.


Loki may not take the threats seriously but it's a pretty sure thing that the Asgardians have weapons that can actually kill him, unlike humans. He's not much of a fighter in a physical sense and never was in the comics, so Sif and Volstagg could possibly take him straight up. I'm sure that if either of them cuts Loki's head off as Baldur once did he's not going to be putting it back on his neck anytime soon.

Loki882 08-08-2013 10:03 AM

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The staff merely amplified Loki's powers. The scene where they're arguing an the staff is glowing would indicate that. Loki's smile when Hulk freaked out also shows that he knew it would happen. Loki should be weaker than Hulk and Thor, he's not that kind of villain.

OstrichsRevenge 08-08-2013 10:26 AM

Re: Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 2
 
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Originally Posted by Loki882 (Post 26587429)
The staff merely amplified Loki's powers. The scene where they're arguing an the staff is glowing would indicate that. Loki's smile when Hulk freaked out also shows that he knew it would happen. Loki should be weaker than Hulk and Thor, he's not that kind of villain.

Seeing as how the Avengers defeated Loki because he forgot his staff, it would seem the staff didn't amplify his powers, it was his power. The Loki from the comics wouldn't have needed a secondary weapon to keep the fight going.

jaqua99 08-08-2013 10:26 AM

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you don't know that it amplified his power. That scene merely indicated that he was tapping into, yet again the scepter. He should physically be weaker than Hulk or Thor, but he's a powerful enough villain that he should be able to take them on, using other abilities he's yet to display.

voyzovrezon 08-08-2013 12:13 PM

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This guy talks about possible appearances on "Agent Shield" tv series coming up and that there may be other Loki vehicles in the works for Hiddleston because he's under contract and of course, popular. He also speculates that there may be another cliff hanger at the end of Thor 2.

I think this as well.

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