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Dasher10 08-13-2013 11:00 PM

Captain America 3 Villian
 
The Cap films have already done Red Skull, Arnim Zola, Crossbones, Batroc and Winter Soldier. That's a lot but there are still plenty of villains left.

marcvader 08-13-2013 11:13 PM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
Red Skull, the real one, and Baron Zemo.

The_Manhunter 09-26-2013 10:53 PM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
If they do a 3rd one I'd like to see Red Skull return as the villain.

psylockolussus 10-22-2013 11:39 PM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
They could do so much more with Arnim Zola, so I wouldn't mind if he's one of the villains in the third movie.

krycek 10-31-2013 07:28 PM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
Viper or Sin. The MCU could really use more female villains.

The Villain 11-04-2013 08:47 AM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
Also would like to see Taskmaster & Constictor on list. Voted for Zemo.

Ant-manic 11-04-2013 09:22 PM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
US Agent (or Nuke)

Henry Peter Gyrich (and the CSA)

Helmut Zemo (leading some kind of upstart terrorist cell w/ a growing reputation in Europe but exporting their terrorism to the U.S)

jonathancrane 11-04-2013 10:18 PM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
Madame Hydra, Baron Von Strucker and Grim Reaper

Dr. Evil 11-04-2013 11:06 PM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by krycek (Post 27123485)
Viper or Sin. The MCU could really use more female villains.

Viper cannot be used. She already appeared in Wolverine.

The Villain 11-05-2013 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Evil (Post 27149247)
Viper cannot be used. She already appeared in Wolverine.

What about Taskmaster, Constrictor being hired by Hydra? could that work.

Dr. Evil 11-05-2013 11:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Villain (Post 27151621)
What about Taskmaster, Constrictor being hired by Hydra? could that work.

Both could work.

Ant-manic 11-05-2013 04:07 PM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Evil (Post 27149247)
Viper cannot be used. She already appeared in Wolverine.

"Madame Hydra" is still usable.

Dasher10 11-06-2013 07:44 AM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
Meh, if we get Constrictor, I'd like to see a Serpent Society lineup of

Viper (as leader, later becomes Madame HYDRA)
Eel
Constrictor
Black Racer
Cut-Throat
Death Adder
Rock Python
Coachwhip
Clack Mamba
Diamondback (who defects to join SHIELD)

Most of the Serpent Society would be random goons except for Viper (obviously) Constrictor (since he's cool) and Cut-Throat (since he's Diamondback's brother). Keep the rest for fights that have multiple goons fighting Cap at once. This could result in some VERY cool fight scenes.

The Serpent Society would be an international narcotics ring who Captain America is dispatched to fight in the city state of Madripoor off the coast of Malaysia.

That said, I still would rather have Zemo and a reformed HYDRA. This time around HYDRA is independent of any nation and wants to overthrow the world to improve it. On some level, this time around Cap might find himself having some level of sympathy towards them even though they're willing to kill innocents to achieve their goals.

Keep in mind that Zemo points out that SHIELD isn't entirely clean either and the main conflict is order vs. chaos.

Hypestyle 11-28-2013 10:36 AM

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I hope CA3 involves the replacement Captain America. The writer(s) can update and merge the backstories of John Walker and the ‘Anti-Cap’. John Walker can start off as a 21-ish year old enlisted man, dishonorably discharged after a 3-year stint in the Navy on September 10th 2001 (he was part of a weekend-pass/voucher forging operation). His girlfriend, who had recently quit him, was an intern working in the WTC). Back in his Georgia hometown, Walker is heartbroken, despondent, and rage-filled, he is turned down for reenlistment. He drifts from job to job, usually getting fired after blowing up at someone. 6 months later, he’s embedded with a militia group that’s involved in a plot to blow up a local bridge. As it turns out, the group has been infiltrated by an FBI agent; the agent offers Walker immunity for his cooperation. Walker reluctantly complies, and is in turn confronted by a Navy admiral, who offers him a chance to ‘redeem himself for his country’. Thus does Walker become the volunteer for the ‘super-SEAL’ program. An alternative to the original serum is used, with modern steroids. The ‘US Agent’ was not publicized, a wetwork operative. He has been active throughout the years. When Steve publcly quits SHIELD for a time, Walker is brought in publicly. A new sidekick is brought in (Battlestar). A new villain can be Alexander Lukin, the Kronos corporation. Other options include Dr. Faustus, Cobra, Flag Smasher, etc. I would have Steve become Nomad while he was replaced, then go on his own against the bad guys, eventually coming to blows with USAgent/Anti-Cap and the main villain at the same time.

The Overlord 11-29-2013 11:46 PM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Villain (Post 27151621)
What about Taskmaster, Constrictor being hired by Hydra? could that work.

Sure, but those two are henchmen. The Movie will need a Big Bad that is pulling the strings, not Hydra as a group, but an individual master mind, that is more dynamic then a faceless group.

The Villain 11-30-2013 06:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Overlord (Post 27307001)
Sure, but those two are henchmen. The Movie will need a Big Bad that is pulling the strings, not Hydra as a group, but an individual master mind, that is more dynamic then a faceless group.

Okay then Baron Zemo as Bid Bad & even one of the two mentioned as hired help?

I also have gotten to like The Hood but he is less known then the ones mentioned. The Hood has been an enemy to both Avengers & Cap America.

The Overlord 12-01-2013 01:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Villain (Post 27308081)
Okay then Baron Zemo as Bid Bad & even one of the two mentioned as hired help?

I also have gotten to like The Hood but he is less known then the ones mentioned. The Hood has been an enemy to both Avengers & Cap America.

Well Zemo would work and those two would be good henchmen.

I did not like the Hood, at least the way Bendis wrote him, where he seemed like a Mary Sue villain. I didn't buy that all those villains simply deferring to the Hood in Bendis 'Avengers, sure some would, but some like the Wizard would be too arrogant to follow the Hood, while others like Scarecrow and Purple Man would be too crazy to follow orders. Vaughn wrote the Hood better, but Vaughn's Hood would not a be suitable Cap villain either.

Plus Cap should be dealing with international terrorists, not petty street thugs. There is no real dynamic between Hood and Cap to warrant him being in a Cap movie.

Dasher10 12-01-2013 03:00 PM

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Hood honestly will probably pop up in a Luke Cage episode. He works better as a villain for Cage. Cap has enough villains to keep his series going without needing to poach. Also, Wizard is over at Fox.

H.U.S.T.L.E. 12-03-2013 11:53 AM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
Well it obviously depends on the fallout from CA:TWS (I've been staying fairly spoiler free on that one), but I'd like to see Sin & Crossbones as the main villains on a quest to resurrect Red Skull. It might make more sense to make Sin the Red Skull's granddaughter in the MCU, but I've always enjoyed the characterizations of her & Crossbones in Brubaker's run. A 'Natural Born Killers' vibe would be an interesting dynamic, especially since it might allow Sharon Carter to take on a larger role as a foil to Sin.

Zemo or Strucker would be good as the modern front for HYDRA also - I like the way they were portrayed in EMH, so there's something to draw from already.

Ant-manic 12-03-2013 10:23 PM

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Natalya Rudakova might make an interesting Sinthea Schmidt.

http://coedmagazine.files.wordpress....rudakova-6.jpg

PaulRom 12-16-2013 01:59 PM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
I'd love to see Baron Zemo as the villain. Wouldn't mind if they brought back the Red Skull as well.

Slushy 12-21-2013 03:35 PM

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Taskmaster is a must although I would prefer his UDON look:

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/...ster_super.jpg

He looks way better with that design.

Hypestyle 12-28-2013 12:32 AM

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I hope that a merger is done with USAgent and Anti-Cap.

Dasher10 01-31-2014 02:25 PM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
ROFL at me forgetting to add Taskmaster and Doctor Faustus to the poll.

The Caped Knight 01-31-2014 02:32 PM

Re: Captain America 3 Villian
 
Baron Zemo


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