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Hmarrs 08-28-2013 01:23 PM

Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
With Marvel fans spanning the globe as well as decades I would like to know what they feel was the biggest slap in the face of their favorite characters brought to the screen on behalf of Movie Moguls.

For example:

Galalctus being a puff of smoke.

Dead Pool catastrophy

Electra"Nuff said"

Punisher "Nuff said"

Wolverine being 6'3

Venom Disaster

Ghost Rider"Nuff said"

Ghost Rider 2 "Nuff said"

Hulk 1

Hulk 2

Manderine disrespect from Iron man 3

Abomination Rendition from Hulk 2

Aborbing man Zax(Bruce banner's dad)from Hulk 1

Whiplash fiasco from Iron man 2

Etc.Etc.

Please give us your thought on the biggest slap and tell us why?

Wesley Dodds 08-28-2013 01:37 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
The Mandarin. Easily.

Not because I love the character or whatever, no, I hate what they did because basically all of Iron Man 3's excellent trailers, posters and tv spots sold us a completely different movie from the one we ended up getting.
About a whole year's worth of spin sold this movie as an epic battle between Hero and Nemesis in which Stark finally suffers defeat and had to fight his way back from destruction. Kingsley's Mandarin looked and sounded friggin' ferocious too... THIS was gonna be good!
...yeeeeeaaah. :whatever:

Now, studios overhype their films all the time. No surprise there. But what Marvel did went way beyond that... they outright lied about what the film was.

And even then -even then!- I could have forgiven that, all of it... if what the film was actually about wasn't so friggin' boring...

Eh, rant over. :hehe:

Kahran Ramsus 08-28-2013 01:40 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
What happened to Cyclops in X-Men: The Last Stand. Some of those other things may be stupid, but someone somewhere involved in making the films thought that it was the proper approach and the best thing for the story and to show those characters in a live action medium. Even if they were wrong, the intentions were good. Cyclops was not like that. It wasn't done for story reasons at all. It was an executive mandate to ruin the character because Tom Rothman was pissed off that James Marsden went with Bryan Singer to star in Superman Returns. That's what made it worse. Fox knew it wasn't the best thing to do for the film and they did it anyways because of a personal vendetta.

Green Goblin 08-28-2013 01:44 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
The Mandarin. I felt that Sandman and Venom were bad on Spidey 3. There are more but those are the disappointments that come into my mind immideatly.

R_Hythlodeus 08-28-2013 01:50 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
Whatever they f***ing did to Doom.

Spider-Vader 08-28-2013 01:54 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
Deadpool, Dr. Doom, Venom, Juggernaut & Mandarin were all horrible; Deadpool being the worst since he's my favorite character out of anything. It still blows my mind how they could get a character so wrong, especially when said character should be pretty easy to adapt & have a mainstream audience love.

BTW, I don't think anyone cares about how Whiplash was handled in Iron Man 2. Whiplash is a D-list villain that few knew about before the movie, I think people were mad that he got in over a real villain & didn't do s***.

T"Challa 08-28-2013 01:56 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
Daredevil, Elektra, Ghostrider 2, FF2, Spidey 3.

These movies were epic slaps to my face imo. I don't mind alterations to characters as long as they fit into the story the movie is trying to tell, and the story works and makes sense. So stuff like Mandarin, changes to Abomination etc don't bother me.

What bothers me is when the entire movie if just f**king terrible, with a bad plot, no great performances and just no passion behind it. Thats what i can't stand.

Hmarrs 08-28-2013 01:56 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R_Hythlodeus (Post 26748825)
Whatever they f***ing did to Doom.

Good one!!!!

ThePhantasm 08-28-2013 02:09 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
Wolverine being 6'3 totally ruined the entire X-Men franchise. What a slap. :o

Hyde 08-28-2013 02:23 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
This thread is going to be fun to read. :oldrazz:

GENERAL RAAM582 08-28-2013 02:31 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
Can we blame them for movies that technically they didn't make?

The Mandarin was the biggest slap to the face Marvel themselves have done. Probably the biggest slap to the face by any CBM since Green Lantern.

Oscorp 08-28-2013 02:35 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
It's hard to mention only one because there have certainly been some ****ed ups. But Dr. Doom is definitely one of the worst, so is Deadpool.

jonathancrane 08-28-2013 02:47 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
I find the claims of 'face-slapping' to be arbitrary, as each of the storylines and characters in questions exist in multiple iterations across the texts (comics.)

Human Torch 08-28-2013 02:54 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
The first Hulk movie.They pretty much soured the public on a character that should be (or at least WAS for a time) the most popular outside of Spider-Man.Even after a significantly better 2nd attempt,he's the only character not to get a sequel and is relegated to Avengers roster status.

I never had much problems with the FF films to be honest.The cast was pretty solid.(Even Alba was alright) But they really could've been epic with a stronger Doom/non cloud Galactus.I wish they at least got a 3rd before rebooting.

Green Goblin 08-28-2013 03:02 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MovieMaster (Post 26749143)
This thread is going to be fun to read. :oldrazz:

I get a feeling that every villain will be mentioned here bar LOKI!

def28 08-28-2013 03:09 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
Deadpool

Donnie Darko 08-28-2013 03:44 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
I take no issue with a lot of the things mentioned. I don't consider a bad movie (Ghost Rider) to be a slap in the face. I feel like they just tried and failed. I do consider the general treatment of Cyclops in X-Men: The Last Stand to be extremely disrespectful to both fans and source material, though.

DrCosmic 08-28-2013 03:50 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
What 'ruined' comic book movies for me was when Wolverine became the center and virtual leader of the X-Men at the expense of the other X-Men, especially my fave Cyclops. That, more than anything, was in those early days and as the franchise continued to marginalize the non-Wolverine X-Men, and how easily justified removing the team/diversity/unity/non-wolverine aspect was... I realized that comic book movies were never going to be what I was looking for, not really. That, at any moment, they could simply refuse to give me the things I loved about the comics, even if those things were central to the entire franchise, they could just say 'hawt Wolverine sells better.' And that would be it, forever.

I haven't been slapped in the face since. Disappointed, embarassed, sometimes sorely so, but never did it sting like that again.

Green Goblin 08-28-2013 03:58 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DrCosmic (Post 26749893)
What 'ruined' comic book movies for me was when Wolverine became the center and virtual leader of the X-Men at the expense of the other X-Men, especially my fave Cyclops. That, more than anything, was in those early days and as the franchise continued to marginalize the non-Wolverine X-Men, and how easily justified removing the team/diversity/unity/non-wolverine aspect was... I realized that comic book movies were never going to be what I was looking for, not really. That, at any moment, they could simply refuse to give me the things I loved about the comics, even if those things were central to the entire franchise, they could just say 'hawt Wolverine sells better.' And that would be it, forever.

I haven't been slapped in the face since. Disappointed, embarassed, sometimes sorely so, but never did it sting like that again.

I felt that was a big reason why I liked First Class so much.

ThePhantasm 08-28-2013 04:01 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hmarrs (Post 26748613)
Galalctus being a puff of smoke.

Who?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hmarrs (Post 26748613)
Manderine disrespect from Iron man 3

Who?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hmarrs (Post 26748613)
Aborbing man Zax(Bruce banner's dad)from Hulk 1

What?

Marvel, stop slapping us! We're fans of these characters whose names we can't spell!!!! :cmad:

Green Goblin 08-28-2013 04:05 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePhantasm (Post 26749963)
Who?



Who?



What?

Marvel, stop slapping us! We're fans of these characters whose names we can't spell!!!! :cmad:

Grammer Nazi

ThePhantasm 08-28-2013 04:06 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBlueWonder (Post 26749989)
Grammer Nazi

*Grammar :o

Duran Man 08-28-2013 04:11 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
What happened to Cyclops.

ThePhantasm 08-28-2013 04:11 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
Did Marvel even have that much of a say in that Fox stuff?

Green Goblin 08-28-2013 04:23 PM

Re: Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePhantasm (Post 26750035)
Did Marvel even have that much of a say in that Fox stuff?

Don't think so. In the 80's there was a studio that had the rights to Spider-Man and wanted to make it about a giant Spider but Marvel stopped it. They obviously didn't think about that when FOX made Origins.


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