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Thread Manager 09-27-2013 12:51 PM

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Crimson King 09-27-2013 12:51 PM

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Pym isn't a part of Ultron's creation in AoU. Everyone on Marvel's side has said so in no uncertain terms. I think it's time everyone accepted that.

Nathan 09-27-2013 12:53 PM

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I don't have to accept squat. I'll stay in denial as long as I want. :cmad:

cherokeesam 09-27-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 26916617)
I don't have to accept squat. I'll stay in denial as long as I want. :cmad:

You get out of De Nile! That's like a holy river or something....plus the crocs will probably eat you! :argh:

Mightyally 09-27-2013 04:03 PM

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Cherokeesam Iīll ask again. Your avatar, is it from Westcoast Avengers when Pym re-visits Hawkeye because someone(that is a prisioner in the WA HQ) were using Goliath-like stuff?

Also regarding what you said: "The teaser suggests that Iron Man is the *vessel* for Ultron's arrival, *not* that Stark creates him. I strongly, strongly suggest that people read Bendis' Mighty Avengers from a few years back, particularly the story arc that featured Ultron taking over Iron Man."

I agree 100%, I think Stark is more like a victim here. Yes vessel is one way of describing it.

Chris B 09-27-2013 04:56 PM

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I'm going to make a prediction and say that Aaron Taylor-Johnson wont be cast as Quicksilver. The reason being that I find it odd that its already been confirmed that Spader is of course Ultron, with Elizabeth Olsen being more-or-less in the same category as SW.

I find it striking that Johnson was first rumored to be the frontrunner for QS several months ago, some time before Spader and Olsen's names appeared, yet there has been no movement on that front.

jaqua99 09-27-2013 06:22 PM

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Well, Whedon DID say that he had no one in mind besides spader, so it must have just been like, an absolute decision.

Just_Human 09-27-2013 09:43 PM

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Is Ultron's body made of Vibranium in the Comics?

It would be cool to have that in AOU, which would suggest that SHIELD was behind it - remember they had Vibranium in CA

Howard Stark what have you done ?

Who was your greatest creation, Tony or Ultron ?


Plus it could bring up Black Panther

xeno000 09-27-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mightyally (Post 26917441)
Cherokeesam Iīll ask again. Your avatar, is it from Westcoast Avengers when Pym re-visits Hawkeye because someone(that is a prisioner in the WA HQ) were using Goliath-like stuff?

Also regarding what you said: "The teaser suggests that Iron Man is the *vessel* for Ultron's arrival, *not* that Stark creates him. I strongly, strongly suggest that people read Bendis' Mighty Avengers from a few years back, particularly the story arc that featured Ultron taking over Iron Man."

I agree 100%, I think Stark is more like a victim here. Yes vessel is one way of describing it.

What, you guys think that Ultron is going to use Extremis to turn Tony Stark into a female version of itself? Stark didn't take Extremis, for one thing, so that's out. The GA ain't gonna buy Tony turning into a naked robot chick for another. Comics writers have gone on some seriously weird-ass benders in recent years. :doh:

SpideyFan866 09-28-2013 12:27 AM

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As far as Tony is concerned, this is how I see things going down:

Tony is going modify and inject himself with Extremis, in order to create and armor that Ultron, and/or JARVIS/Vision, can't hack; an armor that is a part of him.

All of this possibly after he attempts to take him on with a normal functioning armor.

Mightyally 09-28-2013 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by xeno000 (Post 26918903)
What, you guys think that Ultron is going to use Extremis to turn Tony Stark into a female version of itself? Stark didn't take Extremis, for one thing, so that's out. The GA ain't gonna buy Tony turning into a naked robot chick for another. Comics writers have gone on some seriously weird-ass benders in recent years. :doh:

Haha no not vessel per se dude.

The idea is that Tony himself does not create Ultron. He is the "vessel". With that we mean that he doesnīt have a say in Ultronīs creation. That means that he will be used by Ultron. Tony will be the creator but only because Ultron keeps messing with events so that Tony will build him. The choice of illusion if you will. Tony has resources he has brain and he is ignorant in a way. Like "Itīs built by me, so ofc itīs perfect". That is being exploited by Ultron so in a way Stark is the "vessel"/"host" for Ultronīs birth. This is supposedly connected with the timegem.

cherokeesam 09-28-2013 08:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mightyally (Post 26917441)
Cherokeesam Iīll ask again. Your avatar, is it from Westcoast Avengers when Pym re-visits Hawkeye because someone(that is a prisioner in the WA HQ) were using Goliath-like stuff?

Also regarding what you said: "The teaser suggests that Iron Man is the *vessel* for Ultron's arrival, *not* that Stark creates him. I strongly, strongly suggest that people read Bendis' Mighty Avengers from a few years back, particularly the story arc that featured Ultron taking over Iron Man."

I agree 100%, I think Stark is more like a victim here. Yes vessel is one way of describing it.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that avatar is from WCA. I lifted it from the Internets, and the source doesn't identify it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xeno000 (Post 26918903)
What, you guys think that Ultron is going to use Extremis to turn Tony Stark into a female version of itself? Stark didn't take Extremis, for one thing, so that's out. The GA ain't gonna buy Tony turning into a naked robot chick for another. Comics writers have gone on some seriously weird-ass benders in recent years. :doh:

Forget about the naked chick part. Especially considering that Joss and Edgar and Feige have *still* given absolutely no indication that Janet does or will exist in the MCU.

What I'm talking about is that, post-IM3, Tony will build the Extremis/Bleeding Edge armor, so that the suit literally becomes part of him, making him essentially a type of cyborg. That permanently solves the design problem of the time required to suit up, that "holy grail" he's been chasing for the Iron Man armor over four films. That also makes the suit activate and react to Tony's thought patterns instantaneously, making JARVIS no longer a necessary part of the suit.

That being said, Ultron (created by someone/something else) is able to literally hack into the Extremis armor, and by extension, the brain of Tony himself. So the early parts of the movie feature Iron Man literally turning "evil," and the other Avengers are the only ones who can stop him; and they're also faced with the dilemma of trying to rescue Tony while simultaneously knock him out. Meanwhile, Ultron is changing Iron Man/Tony into....something else. Not a naked robot chick (darn :csad: ), but into the Ultron we all know and hate love.

In other words: Tony Stark doesn't create Ultron. JARVIS doesn't become Ultron. Tony Stark becomes Ultron.

Dark Raven 09-28-2013 08:51 AM

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I don't think anyone is going to want to see Tony Stark turning evil and becoming Ultron, especially if people want to see Iron Man vs Ultron in the movie.

As for naked chicks, Marvel should have introduced Janet, and then Ultron could kidnap her and try to transfer her brainwaves into another female robot which would be Jocasta. Janet was naked for that scene in the comics btw, which is why I mention it, and not because Janet automatically = naked chick. :p

Nathan 09-28-2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cherokeesam (Post 26920085)
Forget about the naked chick part.

Ok, stop that madness right there.

herolee10 09-28-2013 10:22 AM

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Does anyone know which film Thor was quoted on saying..."After all this time, why return?"...

I can't seem to remember which film he said that in.

metaphysician 09-28-2013 10:59 AM

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I'm actually rather iffy on whether the MCU version of Extremis would even support the Extremis Armor of the comics. Its not a traditional Drexler-style nanomachine, reengineering the body according to specs. Its a nanotech based drug, effectively, that triggers regions in the brain.

OldSkoolNWA 09-28-2013 11:59 AM

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Supposedly IMDB had a synopsis posted that stated

"As the US Government create a force, known as ULTRON, the Avengers are told they are not needed any longer. But when ULTRON turns against humanity, its time for the Avengers to assemble yet again for their most dangerous challenge yet"

http://screen.yahoo.com/avengers-2-s...205444550.html

terry78 09-28-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by herolee10 (Post 26920297)
Does anyone know which film Thor was quoted on saying..."After all this time, why return?"...

I can't seem to remember which film he said that in.

Either it's a deleted line or a new one from TDW.

marcvader 09-28-2013 12:24 PM

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IMDB, nuff said.

Quasimod0 09-28-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSkoolNWA (Post 26920675)
Supposedly IMDB had a synopsis posted that stated

"As the US Government create a force, known as ULTRON, the Avengers are told they are not needed any longer. But when ULTRON turns against humanity, its time for the Avengers to assemble yet again for their most dangerous challenge yet"

http://screen.yahoo.com/avengers-2-s...205444550.html

I'm sure it's fake, but that doesn't sound too awful. Just cliche

Mr. Dent 09-28-2013 05:09 PM

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That's been brought up like 10 times already. It's fake.

Broseph44 09-28-2013 08:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSkoolNWA (Post 26920675)
Supposedly IMDB had a synopsis posted that stated

"As the US Government create a force, known as ULTRON, the Avengers are told they are not needed any longer. But when ULTRON turns against humanity, its time for the Avengers to assemble yet again for their most dangerous challenge yet"

http://screen.yahoo.com/avengers-2-s...205444550.html

IMDB is usually never ever reliable, so lesson learned my friend. That ones free next one is gonna cost ya.

Mightyally 09-28-2013 09:30 PM

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Where is Dentipedia? Havenīt seen him in a while. If you wonder about some IMDB info just ask him and heīll tell ya :D

kosh33 09-29-2013 12:33 AM

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in IM3, Happy makes a reference to robots replacing humans somewhere.. wonder if its an ultron robot army reference


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