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BigThor 11-05-2013 02:25 AM

Battle Of The Super Villains 2013
 
This is a thread about a hypothetical battle between this year's main supervillains which were pretty tough this time around. Now this IS NOT about who was the better villain or most menacing, it's strictly about who would win in a fight.

1. Malekith

2. Silver Samurai (Mechanical Armor)

3. Aldrich Killian

4. General Zod



Let us begin!

smallville fan 11-05-2013 02:33 AM

Re: Battle Of The Super Villains 2013
 
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and honorary mentions should go to:

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BigThor 11-05-2013 02:34 AM

Re: Battle Of The Super Villains 2013
 
^ There's a thread for Henchmen as well

herolee10 11-05-2013 02:42 AM

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Based on motivation and depth, I think General Zod would win this one.

BigThor 11-05-2013 03:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by herolee10 (Post 27149665)
Based on motivation and depth, I think General Zod would win this one.

This isn't about those things, it's fist fight not a character study.

FeedOnATreeFrog 11-05-2013 04:03 AM

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whoops, I thought it was about the characters and voted for Zod.

As for the battle, it depends where they are and what they have.

Zod got beat up by a scientist on his homeworld.
Malekith got beat up by Thor's mom.

BigThor 11-05-2013 04:18 AM

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I meant super powered Zod on earth and Malekith with the power of the Aether he wielded during the final battle.

smallville fan 11-05-2013 04:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FeedOnATreeFrog (Post 27149821)
whoops, I thought it was about the characters and voted for Zod.

As for the battle, it depends where they are and what they have.

Zod got beat up by a scientist on his homeworld.
Malekith got beat up by Thor's mom.

The only time Zod and Jor-El fought was after Kal-El was launched into space and it resulted in Jor-El dying.

Oh and why wasn't the Motherf**kr from Kick-Ass 2 included?

smallville fan 11-05-2013 04:38 AM

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Accidental double post

Mjölnir 11-05-2013 07:57 AM

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It's a tough one. It might be Malekith but it's for a spoilery reason.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
He didn't seem killable by normal means, as it required the spikes Selvig had done to make things happen. While it was a super strong person that did it Zod still seemed killable by normal means. I don't know if magical vulnerability would be an issue.

DaddlerTheDalek 11-05-2013 04:01 PM

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I'm torn between Zod & Malekith...

BigThor 11-05-2013 04:06 PM

Re: Battle Of The Super Villains 2013
 
Who do you guys think would win between Aldrich Killian and Silver Samurai?

That would be a cool battle in it's own right, Killian's heat boosted attacks vs SS's heated blade

Vartha 11-05-2013 09:47 PM

Re: Battle Of The Super Villains 2013
 
This belongs in the Thor world section BT.

Batmannerism 11-08-2013 02:01 AM

Re: Battle Of The Super Villains 2013
 
will repost without spoilers

Batmannerism 11-08-2013 02:17 AM

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It comes down to Zod vs Malekith, I'd say Zod, but only by a hair...


Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Hmmmmm.......I'd say Zod, but Malekith would be close, the others, not remotely close. Given that Zod had all of Superman's powers, and no reservations about killing anyone who wasn't Kryptonian, on the other hand Malekith had the Aether.

Not sure how movie Zod's powers work against magic, and of course he'd be more invulnerable than Thor, and much faster, with some decent fighting skills, but could he stand up to the Aether ?

The key is who gets in the first decisive strike.

I think if Malekith was able to use the Aether at full power against Zod it might take him out, but if Zod got in the first strike he'd rip Malekith in half, and then into much smaller
pieces -Malekith without the Aether, not a hope in hell.

We've already fought about how hot heat vision is, and Zod has no worries about using it against people. I reckon he could fry Malekith or cut
him in half, if he got a powerful blast of heat vision in first.

So either Malekith or Zod, and either one of them would wipe out Killian and the Silver Samurai in about as long as it takes to type their names.


BigThor 11-08-2013 02:30 AM

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That's saying a lot that you think Zod only wins by a hair.

Batmannerism 11-08-2013 04:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigThor (Post 27171933)
That's saying a lot that you think Zod only wins by a hair.


Tru dat bro !

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:


It's all about who gets in the first strike.

Malekith had the power to extinguish all the light in the universe, or blow up all the realms, a bit unclear, need to see TDW again. Why thor wasn't disintegrated by it, not sure, I'm guessing Malekith wasn't using it at full potency, or that it could only destroy the realms at the moment of their
alignment -either way, with the Aether Malekith was easily a match for Thor,
in fact Thor was only able to defeat him with the help of Selvig's special
devices, specifically designed to counter the Aether's effects (and then the
space ship crushed him, we aren't even sure if he's dead).

part of it depends on whether Zod's powers work against magic. Comic book Zod would have serious trouble with comic book Malekith the Accursed, who has vast evil magical powers. Again, it depends who strikes first. If Zod got in the first shot, Malekith would be screwed (comic book Zod is arguably nastier than movie Zod), and if Malekith got off a spell, comic book Zod would be buggered.

back to the films, its all about who gets in the first strike.
Zod's ruthlessless, fighting skills, super-speed and willingness to kill with heat vision, might give him the edge, but only with a first-strike advantage. If Malekith unleashed the aether at full power, I doubt Zod could withstand it (particularly as it extinguishes light, the source of Zod's power).

ciscostudent561 11-08-2013 10:40 AM

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I'm going with Malekith.
Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
He was an excellent strategist and the wielder of the Aether. I mean- one thing about Zod is though very powerful, he looked that powerful next to humans. But Malekith laid waste to Asgardians. Asgardians are more or less as powerful as Kryptonians, not as fast in travel speed. And Zod got his butt handed to him by Jor-El. Nuff said' I'm going with Malekith.

BigThor 11-09-2013 02:25 AM

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Finally saw the film and I have to say Malekith vs God would be one hell of a battle. I'm going to have to give the edge to Malekith due to the sheer size of his powers with the Aether. Plus I don't think Malekith can be killed by normal means, no matter how strong and fast his opponent is.

psylockolussus 11-09-2013 02:46 AM

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I expected that from you.

Batmannerism 11-09-2013 04:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigThor (Post 27179197)
Finally saw the film and I have to say Malekith vs God would be one hell of a battle. I'm going to have to give the edge to Malekith due to the sheer size of his powers with the Aether. Plus I don't think Malekith can be killed by normal means, no matter how strong and fast his opponent is.


Glad you finally saw TDW, hope you liked it as much as I did. It was Marvel's best film this year by miles (and so much better than Amazing Spider-Man).

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Not sure if I agree with your assessment of Malekith, as if that were true, why didn't he just disintegrate Thor ? You can't tell me that Thor's so tough he can stand up to a power that would destroy the 9 realms (or at least wipe out everything in them). If Thor could stand up to that, then he'd have nothing to fear from the Hulk, Superman, Odin or anybody else - how did Kurse beat on him ? It's a bit of a continuity error, and one that the writers could have pretty easily cleared up with a line or two of dialogue. But, for whatever reason, Malekith couldn't use the aether at full power against Thor.

Having said that, I still stand by my assertion that if he fought Zod, whoever got in the first decisive strike would win. Thor did pretty damn well in his fight with Malekith, and without Mjolnir. I know we don't agree on who's stronger,
but if Thor could stand up to Malekith, then Zod certainly could.

I suppose Zod's best bet on killing him would be incinerating him with heat vision, or chucking him into the sun.

However, if Malekith really could put the aether into a concentrated blast at full power, not Zod, Thor, the Hulk or anyone could stand up to it. Why he doesn't, just have to ask the writers I suppose.

Not sure if Malekith is dead at the end, although the space-ship collapses on him - in the comics he's quite hard to kill, and has appeared to die on several occasions. You're right that he takes a lot of killing, although generally he fakes his death - he's kind of less charming version of Loki (in terms of general trickiness, but with serious want-to-start-the-apocalypse issues, instead of daddy issues and sibling rivalry).

Kind of felt sorry for you Marvel fans, because TDW was a great superhero flick, Marvel's best this year, but man, that mid-credits scene sucked - was way out of place with the rest of the movie (the collector is supposed to have the best collection of weird stuff in the universe, and his place looked like an old pawn shop).



BigThor 11-09-2013 12:59 PM

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Also after finally watching the Kurse vs Thor fight, it never seemed like Thor was going to die or be KO'ed at any point. He just seemed to be all "ooh ahh" then continue to get up, he got a few blows on Kurse as well.

metaphysician 11-09-2013 10:40 PM

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Eh, Thor was pretty quickly reduced to not reacting. It wasn't quite as bad a manhandling as Loki vs the Hulk, but he was clearly not having fun.

Batmannerism 11-09-2013 11:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigThor (Post 27181561)
Also after finally watching the Kurse vs Thor fight, it never seemed like Thor was going to die or be KO'ed at any point. He just seemed to be all "ooh ahh" then continue to get up, he got a few blows on Thor as well.

Dude, I'm going to go and see TDW again this week (or next) sometime, and I will watch that scene like a hawk, because when I saw it the first time,
I got the impression Thor was in serious trouble.

If you're right I'll admit it, but I think the movie worked better if Thor really was screwed (let's forget about our earlier Superman vs Thor debate for a moment) because then it raises the stakes and tension, and develops the character of Loki - If Loki didn't need to step in, then it makes that bit kind of pointless. Just IMO.

BigThor 11-10-2013 11:57 PM

Re: Battle Of The Super Villains 2013
 
Now I'm not saying Thor no sold Kurse's attacks, they clearly hurt him and put a "what do I do now" look on his face. I'm just saying that Thor was never KO'ed and it didn't look like he was going to die anytime soon. Obviously if the fight continued to be as one sided as it was Thor would've eventually got KO'ed or even killed.

I believe eventually Thor was going to be able to retrieve Mjolnir, which is the key for him putting up a fight against Kurse.


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