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Dasher10 12-05-2013 04:53 PM

Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
I'd personally like to thank Bryan Singer returning, Mark Millar being hired as a producer and Lauren Shuler Donner firing Tim Rothman for making this possible.

2016: Apocalypse and X-Force
2017: Wolverine 3 and Deadpool

At this point, why doesn't Warner just give up? Between Disney, Fox and Sony using the Marvel license, there isn't really enough room for them to start new DC properties that audiences aren't familiar with. Marvel won. Period.

eddy 12-05-2013 05:10 PM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
lol. Laruen Donner firing Tim Rothman...what are you talking about? Donner is a producer on the X-Men films. Tim Rothman was the head of the studio.

Dasher10 12-05-2013 05:16 PM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
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Originally Posted by eddy (Post 27358127)
lol. Laruen Donner firing Tim Rothman...what are you talking about? Donner is a producer on the X-Men films. Tim Rothman was the head of the studio.


Derp. Regardless, I'm happy that Tim Rothman is gone. He ruined a lot of movies and helped make the 2000s a dark age for film.

psylockolussus 12-05-2013 10:42 PM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
I'm very happy about this 2 year gap for X-Men films!

Ughh all I wanted after DOFP is a straight-up sequel to it and it looks we might get it!

Angamb 12-06-2013 05:22 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
Im really surprised with this 2016 date, I always thought Fox would keep the three years formula for the team movies.... but they have really surprised me with this.

Two Xmen movies in a matter of three years (2014-2016) how AWESOME is this?

def28 12-06-2013 05:31 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasher10 (Post 27357881)
At this point, why doesn't Warner just give up? Between Disney, Fox and Sony using the Marvel license, there isn't really enough room for them to start new DC properties that audiences aren't familiar with. Marvel won. Period.

Yeah, cause none of this is about money or putting out good stories for DC Fans. Last I checked Batman and Superman made about 1.7 billion together on their last flicks. Clearly they should give up and just trash their next film which features both of them and DC's leading female which is no doubt leading to a much larger Universe. Arrow seems to be doing pretty bad with fans as well. Should just canel that :whatever:

We only have one X-Men film greenlit. And its an extremely safe one for Fox. They are not out of their comfort zone. Everything thus far has been around Wolverine, Prof X and that core team. Until we have films revolving around other characters greenlit, X-Men are in the same position as DC with their lesser knowns. We dont have that Deadpool and X-Force film just yet. Just like DC dont have their Wonder Woman, Justice League Dark and Flash films. They will happen sooner or later, but for now nothing has a date and given the go ahead on production except their safe bets ( Batman, Superman, Wolverine), films they could lose the right to (FF) and Avenger sized epics (Bats VS Supes, DOFP, XM:A).

psylockolussus 12-07-2013 01:33 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
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Originally Posted by Angamb (Post 27363435)
Im really surprised with this 2016 date, I always thought Fox would keep the three years formula for the team movies.... but they have really surprised me with this.

Two Xmen movies in a matter of three years (2014-2016) how AWESOME is this?

After that 1 year gap between The Wolverine and DOFP... its not so surprising.

The thing that surprised me, is they revealed the title so early! which isn't bad at all.

Mr. Dent 12-07-2013 02:30 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
We don't know when X-Froce or Wolverine 2 is coming out and we don't even know if they're going forward with a standalone Deadpool movie at all.

psylockolussus 12-07-2013 02:37 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
That Deadpool movie is probably not gonna happen, or at least in 5 years from now.

Naji Assan 12-07-2013 03:47 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
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Originally Posted by psylockolussus (Post 27371397)
That Deadpool movie is probably not gonna happen, or at least in 5 years from now.

Jeff Wadlow disagrees. He said it would happen six months before X-Force and was commissioned to pen X-Force six months ago. Script is done.

X-Force and Deadpool are coming.

I'm expecting release date announcements soon.

Mr. Dent 12-07-2013 12:22 PM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
When did he say that?

Sullstar 12-07-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Dent (Post 27373085)
When did he say that?

I think he means Robert Liefeld, Don't remember seeing Wadlow saying much about the Deadpool movie, but have seen Liefeld say they may be between 6 months of each other

psylockolussus 12-08-2013 12:08 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
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Originally Posted by Naji Assan (Post 27371465)
Jeff Wadlow disagrees. He said it would happen six months before X-Force and was commissioned to pen X-Force six months ago. Script is done.

X-Force and Deadpool are coming.

I'm expecting release date announcements soon.

I doubt it.

Cherry 12-08-2013 01:45 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by def28 (Post 27363447)
Yeah, cause none of this is about money or putting out good stories for DC Fans. Last I checked Batman and Superman made about 1.7 billion together on their last flicks. Clearly they should give up and just trash their next film which features both of them and DC's leading female which is no doubt leading to a much larger Universe. Arrow seems to be doing pretty bad with fans as well. Should just canel that :whatever:

We only have one X-Men film greenlit. And its an extremely safe one for Fox. They are not out of their comfort zone. Everything thus far has been around Wolverine, Prof X and that core team. Until we have films revolving around other characters greenlit, X-Men are in the same position as DC with their lesser knowns. We dont have that Deadpool and X-Force film just yet. Just like DC dont have their Wonder Woman, Justice League Dark and Flash films. They will happen sooner or later, but for now nothing has a date and given the go ahead on production except their safe bets ( Batman, Superman, Wolverine), films they could lose the right to (FF) and Avenger sized epics (Bats VS Supes, DOFP, XM:A).

I agree with most of what you're saying, except for DOFP/Apocalypse being "a safe bet." Do I think it will pay off handsomely? Absolutely. But they are risking A LOT of mullah on this endeavor. I would say something like a sequel to The Wolverine is more of a safe bet.

def28 12-08-2013 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry (Post 27378225)
Do I think it will pay off handsomely? Absolutely. But they are risking A LOT of mullah on this endeavor. I would say something like a sequel to The Wolverine is more of a safe bet.

Thats very true, but they are using arguably their most hyped villain which is why I think they dropped the title so early and ahead of DOFP. Thats gonna create even more anticipation. And the cast will be more then likely be the same, at least as far as leads. If a small Wolverine film can make over 400m ww that pretty much puts at least 500m-600m ww as lock. If they are to use the most money on any X-Men film it would be this one. Its no more a risk as X3 was imo. They are throwing every marketable thing they have had so far into these next two films so if this doesn't work for Singer and crew then nothing will. Nothing but the big guns here.

Now if DOFP flops, then I would agree 100% that XM:A is a risk. But I don't think thats gonna happen.

BlackFox 12-08-2013 02:51 AM

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Im glad Fox is uping their game at last now, really had to after the likes of X3, Origins and the FF films.

After First Class and The Wolverine finally can see they are heading in the right direction and DoFP looks great so looking forward to whatever else we get with new enthusiasm, surprised Apocolypse was announced so soon but bring it on as well as W3 and X-Force!!

Angamb 12-08-2013 07:25 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
Im really interested in X-Force, it would mean a whole different team with more badass characters, and that could lead to some of them crossing over to main Movies.

Id love to see a X-Men movie where we see Cyclops, Cable, Wolverine, Gambit, Rogue, Storm, Bishop, Iceman, Kitty, Domino, Archangel, Psylocke and more all in the same movie.

It would be f***** Epic and Memorable. It would be like the ultimate X-Men movie to me, with such iconic characters all in the same movie for once and for all. Really hope this is Singer/Kimberg/Millar ultimate plan.

psylockolussus 12-08-2013 09:52 PM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
The thing about X-Force is there's no certainty about its success. At best it would perform at the box-office like the 2005 Fantastic Four movie but I doubt it will even gross more than $140 million in the United States.

I feel like X-Force would look like as light X-Men to mainstream viewers and they might want to skip the movie when its already out. What we learned about the last 3 X-men movies is the mainstream viewers are more supportive/invested to the original cast. Fox shouldn't take a different turn right after X-Men: Apocalypse especially if DOFP/Apocalypse earned more money than their predecessors.

def28 12-09-2013 01:45 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
I stil think building to Apocalypse with X-Force like GOTG is with Thanos would be a better route story wise, but given characters like Cable have played a strong role with Apocalypse, (and Singer mentioned interest in characters like Deadpool), there could be a possibility that X-Force characters appear in XM:A before they have their own film. Giving them a very large audience introduction. Which would no doubt have impact on their film.

Cable, Deadpool, Gambit, Psylocke and Angel seem to be the most hyped ones they are currently not using. 4 out of those 5 are X-Force members.

psylockolussus 12-09-2013 01:58 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
Those characters can be simply introduced in X-Men: Apocalypse or in a X-Men movie. And with that, producers wouldn't think twice letting them work with the X-Men compare if X-Force didn't please the Fox execs with its box-office numbers or if X-Force didn't please the crowd by the film's quality.

def28 12-09-2013 02:13 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
Well regardless if X-Force came out before or after and was a hit or not, their place in XM:A wont change. That films already got a date, and Im sure Singer and Fox already know the plan for characters. If X-Force members are in that flick they would be a lock in that film even if X-Force flopped before its release.

psylockolussus 12-09-2013 03:11 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
Huh what? X-Force doesn't have a date and I'm sure Bryan Singer could use any characters that he wants even if those characters are already in the X-Force script.

Anyway I prefer characters like Gambit, Psylocke and Archangel to appear in core X-Men movies first. If something doesn't do well with Psylocke/Archangel appearing in X-Force, that could mean that we won't see them work/appear in a movie with the core X-Men team. Well, right now it doesn't look like we would be seeing popular X-Men members Gambit and Emma Frost interact with the core X-Men team because

a. Origins sucked and we don't know what happened with Gambit after that movie and there's also a huge gap between Origins/X1.
b. Critics didn't like Emma Frost in First Class and now she's mia in DOFP.

It would only take 1 great writer to bring those two back and let them work or at least interact with the core X-Men team.... but they already appeared before in a prequel/spin-off and chances are, the directors/writers would just pick another character to use.

Without these spin-offs/prequels, major characters like Gambit/Emma Frost probably already worked or had an interaction with the major X-Men players.

henzINNIT 12-09-2013 04:53 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
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Originally Posted by def28 (Post 27386531)
I stil think building to Apocalypse with X-Force like GOTG is with Thanos would be a better route story wise, but given characters like Cable have played a strong role with Apocalypse, (and Singer mentioned interest in characters like Deadpool), there could be a possibility that X-Force characters appear in XM:A before they have their own film. Giving them a very large audience introduction. Which would no doubt have impact on their film.

Cable, Deadpool, Gambit, Psylocke and Angel seem to be the most hyped ones they are currently not using. 4 out of those 5 are X-Force members.

I wouldn't be shocked to see X-Force following X-Men: Apocalypse. I was wondering how how Fox would go about launching X-Force, and some introductions in the next team film seems logical.

def28 12-09-2013 05:55 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
Agreed.
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Originally Posted by psylockolussus (Post 27386769)
Huh what? X-Force doesn't have a date and I'm sure Bryan Singer could use any characters that he wants even if those characters are already in the X-Force script.

Edit: Just go back and read my posts. You misinterpreted.

Mr.M 12-09-2013 08:17 AM

Re: Wow, so Fox is now doing two a year
 
I don't even think Apocalypse will be completely dealth with in this flick. It could be more of a Sinister movie or 4 Horseman movie, with Apocalypse in the background, and his takeover is postponed but his return is not completely ruled out in the future. That way, X-Force can still deal with elements of Apocalypse, while handling other villains closer to home. But it would definitely make sense to introduce Cable beforehand in a major X-Men movie before doing X-Force.


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