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Old 10-13-2006, 03:33 PM   #14
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Default Re: Contest of Marvels II Thread 2

Originally Posted by hippy fascist
  1. He has proved able to re-animate the dead at the absolute peak of his powers. Demogoblin is also an extremely accomplished student of the black arts(wouldn't really call him a sorceror though ) and as traditional views on magic's show, for every spell there is a counter-spell. Demogoblin would be able to hold his opponent at bay for a long time if the battle went magical.
As noted above, and as my opponent has admitted, Demogoblin isn't really a sorcerer. Demogobin won't know what he's up against, while Yellow Claw will realize he's dealing with a demon whose black arts powers are simply limited to the use of fire and brimstone. I would highly argue that Demogoblin could "hold his opponent at bay for a long time if the battle went magical." There is nothing in Demogoblin's past that would show he has that ability against a Master Sorcerer.

Originally Posted by hippy fascist
  1. Except perhaps for a demon whose whole powerbase revolves around halucination and general fear. The guy has halucinogenic skin, he has bombs and blades that cause emotional breakdowns on impact, do you not think that at somepoint he was on the recieving end of some of those emotional panic attacks. Also how do you freak a guy that has spent most of his existence in HELL! It doesn't get much freakier than ABANDON HOPE ALL WHO ENTER HERE (not sure if that's the exact quote)
  2. With regards banishment, traditional folklore dictates (and buffy/charmed ), for every kind of demon there is a set ritual/weapon/natural influence for banishing them from the mortal plane. Demogoblin is a student of the black arts. If you were in his position what be the first thing you'd'd check out the spells with significant impact on yourself and learn how to interupt/repel their effects.
To think a Master Sorcerer would submit to "emotional panic attacks" is very unlikely. Again, Demogoblin will have no idea who he's going against...Yellow Claw will. And, he would have a plan for dealing with a demon who's only means of attack is with fire and brimstone. Plus, let's not forget how Demogoblin was killed. A pillar dropped on him and crushed him.

Originally Posted by hippy fascist
  1. The id is the selfish impulses, the pleasure centre. Demogoblin doesn't do what he does out of desire or because he enjoys it, the guy's on a personal crusade due to an extreme moral code he has picked up somewhere. He is not acting wilfully he is doing something that to him at least involves suffering and sacrifice.
Finally, Demogoblin is all about doing what he desires and enjoys. This is an insane demon with a religious crusade about punishing sinners for the very act he himself is committing. Demogoblin cannot act rationally, and his past has proven that. And, he cannot have an "extreme moral code," for if he did, he'd realize he would have to punish himself just as much as those he believes he should punish.

Winner: Yellow Claw

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