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Old 09-28-2008, 07:19 AM   #100
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Originally Posted by sto_vo_kor_2000 View Post
I'm sorry but the appearance of "characters" from one book to an other is in "NO WAY" proof of a connection between universes.....specifically when we're talking about comic characters that dwell with in a multiverse that is also known to have a few pocket universes within it.

And even the writers desires,wants and statements are hardly proof of anything.

Grant Morrison made a statement that he was bringing "Son of the Demon" back into continuity once.

He made an official statement a few months [almost a year] before his "Batman & son" arc started.

We now know that he only brought in a few elements from "SOTD" and not the entire story.

So while Frank may have said that there's a connection,and he may be implying it threw the use of characters from the serries there has been no official word connecting the two universes.

Besides....there are a few character portrayal inconsistencies as well as a few cultural ones [very minor thou] as well to place any statement made by Miller about a over all connection into question.
Frank Miller has made is pretty clear within the story that it is connected, taking place between his Year One and his Dark Knight Returns. The reference to the Joker's poisoning of the water supply ties in All-Star Batman & Robin to the Year One continuity,

as does Jim Gordon's affair with Sarah Essen, whom he is clearly still in love with (he keeps calling her just to hear her voice), while still being married to Barbara, and references to Jim's past in Chicago (where he was moving from during in the beginning of Year One) and fighting Flass with a baseball bat. And Jim even mentioned that he reads to his son, James Jr. (born in Year One) every night and hopes that he will become an Detective one day (Jim claims that he is very observant),

and the inclusion of the Joker's henchwoman from Dark Knight Returns links the continuity of All-Star Batman to Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, as well.

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You've convinced me. Well played, sir. It's great to debate with someone who has the hard facts to back up what they say

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