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Old 12-23-2008, 04:53 PM   #27
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Default Re: Tim Boyle's The Phantom

Originally Posted by TheVileOne View Post
He's a household name. The Phantom is not.
Neither were Iron Man, Hellboy, Blade, The Crow, or even Daredevil before their movies came out.

It amazes me when so many people use the fact that the Phantom "isn't" a household name as the best reason for why a film based on him is doomed to flop. In Norway, where I live, nobody, and I mean NOBODY knew who Iron Man was. There have been, like, ten issues of that comic published throughout the years here. And yet, I read that close to 300.000 people went to see the movie, which is an enormous amount for a country with 4 million inhabitants. Kids didn't give **** about Tony Stark before his movie came out; now he's more famous than ever. Why? Because the film was very good, and presented something a big audience wanted to see. I see no reason that can't happen with a character like the Phantom, as long as the film is good, accessible and marketed well.

All of my friends go to watch comic book movies, yet most of them don't even know they were based on comics. If you told them about Wolverine's yellow costume, they'd look at you like you were from another planet.

Besides, the Phantom was at the top of his popularity read by a hundred million people every single day, a feat even Batman would struggle to match.

Don't make me laugh with your HORRIBLE Casino Royale example. I hated Die Another Day. But guess what? The movie still made a ton of money. I think it made about $160 million US and even more worldwide. That's pretty good for a Bond movie. I'm glad they rebooted it, but we are not talking about Phantom situation here. James Bond is a world-renowned popular character. Bond has and always will have popularity and recognition that the Phantom doesn't.

Same with Batman. The Incredible Hulk was hardly a home run out of the park for a reboot since it did comparable business to Hulk 2003, and Marvel isn't serious about doing sequels to the Incredible Hulk right now.

Start with some valid, legitimate examples. Which none of the above are not.
His examples feels a lot more valid than your counter-arguments... What is your point exactly?

My simple point about the costume is that Boyle's not really given a good idea what they would change about the costume. He speaks so much about loving and respecting the material, but the Phantom has never been a high tech gadget type of character really.
You are very wrong here, mate. Boyle never mentioned anything about gadgets; that comes straight from your own head. He even says in his blog that " He wont be 'heavily gadget man' (as that is another comic book hero named Batman)".

Besides, Boyle is at the moment just the writer. Since when did screenwriters start blabbing about what the costume will look like when the movie has barely been announced? That's a discussion he has to take with the costume designer, producers, etc., not the fans or the press.

Hey, Rogue, I'm at CC too, going by my real name, Paul Andreas.

Last edited by Walker; 12-23-2008 at 05:07 PM.
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