Originally Posted by Elevator Man
LOL. You complain about the way film scores have been like in this genre b/c of a lack of really big epic themes, but praise the lame one note Joker motif, which is anything but "epic". Elfman's Doc Ock theme, Powell's Dark Phoenix theme, and even Ottman's Luthor theme for SR were memorable and more epic than that poor-excuse-of-a-Joker-theme-that-Zimmer -came-up-with-in-10 seconds.
That's sad that the Joker and Heath's tour- de-force performance for the same character got such a pathetic theme, imo. They both deserved better. The rest of the TDK score is leftovers of BB, which is leftovers of the MV/RC sound design junkload factory. That they use in every action movie they scored in the past 15 years. Having a Batman score sounding like anything from a Jerry Bruckheimer/Michael Bay movie score isn't something that's distinct and appropriate for Batman. It's something that you hear in 90% of all action movies.
What I'm trying to say is Zimmer's Batman score is interchangeable with any action movie scored by him and his cronies. Batman deserves his own sound. If he wanted to do something new since it was a new take don't use your typical and generic MV/RC sound scape that been used to death. Zimmer should've changed his sound to fit Batman and not change to Batman fit his generic style. Which is what I feared about Zimmer scoring the Superman reboot.
Also I think some people hate on Powell's X3 score b/c of the movie it's associated with. Which isn't fair. That's amazing that Powell was able to came up with something like that for a movie that craptacular. Definitely the best thing about that movie, imo.
I agree about Giachinno. I want him to score a movie in this genre. And take it in another direction. This genre definitely and desperately needs it ,imo.
The Joker theme is one of my very favorite parts of the score for TDK. It sets a specific tone perfectly, it makes you nervous. It immediately reminds me of the joker and hints at his presence in a very unnerving way. The joker's theme shouldn't have been a melody or something obviously clowny or circus-y. That would be way too obvious.