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Re: The Official "Get Marvel's Rights Back!" Thread
IESB Exclusive: Disney Targets Sony and Fox Franchises
Tuesday, 19 October 2010 00:13
Today, Marvel confirmed what IESB reported back in February of this year, it was here on IESB the news first broke that Disney had plans to completely re-negotiate the standing deal between Marvel and Paramount. At the time, it was denied, but as the news today confirms, we were right. Now the IESB can break the news on what Disney is hoping to do next to continue building upon their Marvel Empire.
There are four Marvel franchises that Disney does not control and word is they want them back. Three are controlled by 20th Century Fox and one by Sony.
Let's start with the Fox controlled Marvel properties.
DAREDEVIL - The movie wasn't received well by critics or fans for that matter, but, it did make its money back in box office receipts, DVD sales and TV broadcasting rights - it made close to $180 million at the worldwide box office alone with a budget of approx $78 million. And while Daredevil isn't considered a first tier character, the Mouse House wants Matt Murdoch and his alter ego Daredevil back under the control of Marvel Entertainment.
Of course it's not just Daredevil under Fox's thumb, Elektra, Bullseye and Kingpin were also part of the deal. And it's entirely possible that under said rights deal, Fox may have a handful of other characters that haven't appeared yet that could possibly be brought to the big screen as well.
As it was reported here first on IESB and regurgitated on several other outlets, 20th Century Fox is currently in development on a reboot of Daredevil.
FANTASTIC FOUR - It's by far one of the most beloved comic book series of all time. Fox has released two Fantastic Four films, both have done extremely well at the box office ($620 million) plus DVD sales and TV broadcast rights. Perhaps not so well with critics and fans.
The budget for both films were around $230 million combined, $100 million for the first and $130 for the second.
Insiders are telling IESB Disney would love to get Fantastic Four back under their control and that this series, above all, fits the Disney mold the best being the first superhero family.
Fox is currently moving forward with its Fan Four/Silver Surfer reboot as its was first reported here on the IESB.
X-MEN - This one, by far, is the biggie, the X-Men franchise and the entire X-Men Universe. The four X-Men films have brought in a staggering $1.54 billion dollars plus what is believed to be close to another $500 million in DVD sales and TV broadcast rights. That's approximately 2 billion dollars...a lot of money to say the least. All four films had a combined budget cost of approx $500 million dollars.
The X-Men franchise is huge, there are 100's of characters in this universe and 20th Century Fox has a solid lock on this property. Besides the known characters of the films i.e. Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Storm, Rogue, Professor Xavier, Magneto, Sabretooth, Mystique plus the countless other heroes and villains that have appeared in the Fox feature films, besides those, there are so many other characters in the X-Men universe that they haven't used prominently...yet.
These include, just to name a few, fan favorites Bishop, Cable, Banshee, Blink, Havok, Quicksilver, Psylocke and Deadpool (whose spinoff is hopefully coming soon with Ryan Reynolds reprising the role). The X-Men universe is probably one of the largest hero/villain heavy universes out there, it's literally immense when you start to think about all of the inhabitants. Any of these names can easily be the core of a new X-Men team or spinoff.
20th Century Fox is moving full steam ahead with X-Men: First Class, X-Men Origins: Wolverine 2, Deadpool and other spinoffs currently in the works.
Disney will never and I mean never, ever, not in a 100 years, get this property back under the control of Marvel Entertainment, just not going to happen. Fox owns all of these properties for perpetuity, in other words, for-ev-ver....for-ev-ver...
Moving on to TV. If the feature films angle doesn't work, can Disney/Marvel possibly move forward with live action TV series based on the Daredevil, X-Men or Fantastic Four characters? Simply put "NO."
Fox has sued Marvel once before regarding the "Mutant X" fiasco. In those court documents a few interesting tidbits of the original rights deal are revealed.
They mean business -
In October 1993, Marvel and Fox signed an agreement (the "1993 Agreement") pursuant to which Marvel licensed to Fox all the rights that Fox may require in order to produce, distribute, exploit, advertise, promote, and publicize theatrical motion pictures based on the "X-Men" comic book series. The "X-Men" comic book series, referred to in the Agreement as the "Property," includes the X-Men Characters, specifically the "core" Characters and the Characters of the "X-Universe"; their origin stories; storylines from individual comic books; and "all other elements relating to the Property and the Characters." The rights granted to Fox included "the right to use the title (or subtitle or portion of the title) of the Property or any component of the Property as the title of any Picture or related exploitation." The Agreement reserved all television rights to Marvel, subject to a proviso, critical to Fox's pending contract claim, that Marvel would not "produce, distribute or exploit or authorize the production, distribution or exploitation of any live-action motion picture" without Fox's consent (the "Freeze").
From what we've been told, the lawyers at Disney have poured over the "Mutant X" case to find some wiggle room, but, due to the settlement between Fox and Marvel, it looks like Disney is **** out of luck. Their only hope is if Fox is willing to hand over rights to characters Disney would like to use. But, word on the street is Fox has made it very clear that they will not let go of any of the properties under their control for any live action medium.
Unlike Sony, we've been told by Fox Co-Chairman Tom Rothman and other Fox execs in the past, that they own the rights to their Marvel properties for perpetuity. But, we've also been told that if it ever came to the point where they were going to lose any property they own because of failing to have a movie in production, they would simply produce a low budget, straight-to-DVD feature and "four wall it," which basically means, stick it in any theater to fulfill their theatrical release clause.
So even though those Mickey Mouse lawyers have spent plenty of hours going over those Fox contracts it appears that they are rock solid.
So what about Sony's Spider-Man franchise? Same thing as the Fox deal, the contracts protect the studio 100% but they do have to continue to make movies with the Marvel characters on a regular basis. Spider-Man is not going anywhere, that also includes Venom.
Bottom line, the Sony and Fox contracts are rock solid. They will both keep their respective properties under their control. But you can be sure because they have plenty of money to spend, Disney will still have those Mickey Mouse lawyers looking for a loop hole....and to that I say, good luck!
Last edited by Gabe99; 02-22-2011 at 04:59 AM.