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Old 04-26-2011, 11:50 AM   #89
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Default Re: Bryan Singer: Why 'Superman Returns' Didn't Work

Originally Posted by SuperDaniel View Post
Lets do this. You stick with SR, a movie you love so much and defend Singer all the time and Ill stick with the Cavill reboot. Theres no point in discussing this stuff with you anymore. Lets agree to disagree and hopefulsuicide should do the same.
I thought we both were already stuck in bashing and defending?

Now I'd let the lady (hopeful s.) decide.

Originally Posted by SuperDaniel View Post
What you dont see to get is that the target audience isnt the problem of the movie and thats what we're complaining. All the women that I know and went to see the movie didnt like it, i like romantic movies and didnt like SR and didnt find romantic at all.
Again I know many women who liked it, and that's why our personal friends are not representative of what people out there think.

That said, people complained about lack of action and Singer addressed that as a problem.

Originally Posted by SuperDaniel View Post
Lois is not a trainwreck because she is reckless in SR. Its because she is out of character, MISCAST and almost annoying as Lana in Smallville.
Well, everything I've seen from SV has been annoying.

That said, what was outr of character for Lois exactly? Bosworth might have done a bad work - and how many superhero movies' love interests haven't? - but out of character? What exactly?

Originally Posted by SuperDaniel View Post
The point is that, in our opinion, he didnt make a good movie for any target audience at all. Certainly not for Donner fans like me, certainly not for people who expected a modern take on Superman and a fun blockbuster and certainly not for the devil wears prada audience, whatever that means.
The point is, this is his opinion, not yours.

Certainly he did for Donner's fans like me.

Singer already said SR wasn't what people expecting for a fun blockbuster were expecting. So it's good to see that, in spite of all the effort, you agree with him.

And what's this "whatever that means"? You've talked a lot about that for not knowing what it is.

Originally Posted by SuperDaniel View Post
The facts are and the results of SR are that it disappointed, split the fanbase in half, Routh will be the Goerge Lazenby of the Superman movies, it will not get a sequel, the Donner movies will be in the past as they need to and we're movin on and geting a reboot. Oh..And people dont respect Singer as a filmaker anymore as they did before.

- It split a base that loves to be split fpor any reason.
- Lazenby was in a great Bond movie. Btw, do you think Kilmer was the Bat-Lazenby?
- It will not get a sequel but Transformers 2 will. What does that tell you?
- If you think Donner movies "need" to be put in the past, you should thank the man.
- Same with the reboot.
- Singer is still respected and getting jobs. Superman is not important for most humans. But do you think Snyder's Sucker Punch megabomb will make him less respected just like you think SR did for Singer?

Originally Posted by SuperDaniel View Post
I like the guy, he directed on of my favorite movies of all time, the usual suspects, and i really like his X-men movies. He should just stay the hell away from Superman and im sure he will!

See? You and I respect the man.

Originally Posted by SuperDaniel View Post
Im done with you and dont want to talk about this movie anymore.
Ok then.

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