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Old 05-14-2011, 03:55 PM   #57
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Default Re: The Official 'I Still Love Ang Lee's Hulk' Thread - Part 1

Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON View Post
I dont see how the origin had too much wrong and I especially disagree with the notion he wasnt strong enough. With the origin we had Bruce's father experimenting on him, the gamma, harper was in because the rights to Rick Jones belonged with Captain America at another studio at the time, we also had the Hulk's first few transformations taking place at night like in the comics, we also had the repressed rage, Bruce's father killing his mother and even Bruce's father dying in a confrontation with Banner. Literally all that was missing was the gamma bomb, which we got at another point in the movie.

As for him not being strong enough, I have only seen Superman, The Pheonix and The Silver Surfer performing feats greater than the one's Hulk did in Hulk, and thats probably about right with comic canon in my eyes.
Well again let me QUALIFY ALL MY STATEMENTS IN THIS THREAD IT'S ALL THE FANBOY IN ME...As a reader of Hulk since about 1979, I was expecting to see that character on film and I feel we didn't get him at all. I wanted a gamma bomb and not another new origin story, what they did for the television show was fine for the time, but that didn't do it either.

I get the "spirit of the comic idea" but still it left very much to be desired. Is Rick Jones Caps property? I've heard it but haven't see it. Rick to me plays a pivotal role in Banner's/Hulk's story because he plays the part of the guy that feels responsible for the Banner's (Hulk) condition, so he's compelled and or crazy enough to stick around, long enough to learn and get an understanding of Hulk's language, and by that I mean his ways and actions, giving us an intimate view and insight of him. He becomes a friend and a translator, to both the characters in the film and the audience, that gives understanding to Hulk motives and thinking, what acts anger him and how to chill him out, without 'Betty' being that only factor. He also plays the part of showing one of Hulk's honorable traits, his extreme loyalty towards his friends. He also plays "angel's advocate" between Hulk and Bruce, keeping the desperate Banner informed of Hulk's true nature and intents, in trying to prove to Banner that Hulk is more than an animal full of rage and destruction. In other words Rick would be the bridge that shows the Misunderstood Monster aspect of the character, sorely missing in both movies.

Originally Posted by E-Man View Post
I don't get the complaints of Hulk not being strong enough. The guy swung a tank around like a wrestler. That's just swinging 100 tons right there, and he took a blast to the chest. He then fought the helicopters, survived the collapsing of a freaking canyon, and fell from space. Then he survived a nuke. Like Jamon said, no other character has done things like that in a movie except for those he listed. He really was an unstoppable monster. I can understand people having other problems with the movie, but if they are complaining about that they just weren't paying attention. What more did you want him to do? Pick up and throw an aircraft carrier at the Golden Gate Bridge?
Believe me I've analyzed it all too, I loved the scene where he gets shot in the chest by the tank and gets up pissed and the tunneling scene was great.

To both of you guys as far as Hulk's strength. I want to see him do some insane acts of strength, personally I wasn't overly impressed. Hey, blame it on his creator Stan the Man. If in essence these are "comic books" come to life so to speak, it's he who said Hulk was "the strongest one there is." As mentioned above Superman fan's, Surfer fans, and even Spidey fans got to see better impressive acts from their favorites. I'd like to see some extreme awesomeness in the strength department. It just bugged me when Hulk tried to rip apart that Gamma Generator and couldn't, then he tried to pick it up and dropped it before he bugged me alright . I know Betty in Hulk mentioned there was possibly no end to his strength...but hell show me something ridiculous.

Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON View Post
Definately, thats one think that dissapointed me in TIH, he seemed quite a bit weaker.
They both disappointed me in the strength aspect.

Again, I enjoyed both movies for entirely different reasons, but neither captured the Hulk in the true light of what makes him fantastic as a character.

"Well, one thing I’ve been saying is that on the TV show they should make the Hulk a bit more intelligent." Stan Lee 1978 Interview

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