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Old 07-05-2011, 11:53 PM   #77
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Default Re: Sexism, Racism, Jingoism and Homophobia- That's entertainment!

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Originally Posted by Vid Electricz View Post
Why? It it seems my first response went completely unnoticed. There's no actual discussion taking place here.

I know you were upset about the "reading/comprehension" remark I made, so I know you read this part of my response:


I can tell, how these things make sense in the framework of the world that Michael bay has set up, but I'm trying to look at things from outside the box. Questioning why these things are the way they are and why more people don't care.


That's the thing right there. Your responses were on a superficial level, devising reasons why they're there, when they never had to be in the first place.

Sure the military can be shown making an effort, etc... but there's no need for the over the top masturbatory military fetishism showcased in these films. It's so blatant and in-your-face that it's impossible to miss. Yet another case of a hack trying to shove glib political agenda's down our throats in a movie about giant robots from space.

Wow. You think Michael Bay has some sort of military political agenda? And you get this from him showing the military doing a lot to protect the rear of the world from evil giant robots? Let me ask you this. If the Transformers were real, and they were actually attacking the planet, why the Hell do you think the American military is going to do?

Besides, what you describe is not jingoism. Jingoism is a belief in an overly aggressive foreign policy that uses threats and force to "protect" that countries way of life. It seems to also imply that the level is irrational. For example, invading a country that poses no real threat to you, but that you feel may be a threat.

How does Bay's portrays of the American military fit into that? If Anything, he shows restraint. I remember another movie about invading aliens where the president nuked Houston, TX. That seems more like what our military would actually do.

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