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Originally Posted by Travesty

But in B89, I thought it was extremely clear. He goes to the site were his parents were shot, and puts roses on the ground. He has flashbacks about them, after he made the Jack/Joker connection, and at the very end of the movie, when he's fighting Joker, he says, "you killed my parents. I made you, you made me first".

I can't say the same about Returns, other than what has already been said about Cobblepot.

Exactly.