That's a fair reason not to quote
I agree, it does happen and probably would if we continued.
I'm not going to go any further with this 'trope' stuff because I honestly don't see how fitting the two Superheroes into simplistic archtypes helps us achieve any sort of conclusion on who is the more realistic.
I guess the only thing I can really conclude from our arguement is that we have each taken our own subjective understanding of the term realistic.
I initially took it completely at face value, and then have attempted to see it from a contextual perspective.
You seem to have started argueing from a contextual perspective and have now moved into a more literary realism, that i'm just not sure has any reflection on the point I was actually making in the first place.
So it's like we're argueing apples and oranges
My points in summation:
1. In a completely literal, scientific sense, Batman is more realistic than Superman.
2. There are many many details of Superman's origin story that, even when taking into account the context of a world where powers and aliens exist, make him still more unrealistic in my eyes (i.e. Kents taking him in, Glasses as disguise etc).
And I think i'll just leave it at that!
Well i'm not THAT bull headed. Especially Punisher, who is argueably more realistic even in a literal sense, than Batman is.
I just hadn't thought of him
'Why do I find all of this so horrible to explore?
Sure, they are interesting questions that I don't mind seeing in an elseworlds GN. But as a theme for the film that is kicking off the tone of the whole JL, and in a film that is presenting Superman to the general audience in a way that current generations will remember him?
I just don't like it. It's dark, it's depressing and it's not how I like the tone of Superman films to be.'