Originally Posted by cherokeesam
And I agree with all of that.
But that would give us a Mandarin who already has the rings, and would make Fin Fang Foom redundant and utterly unnecessary (in Avengers, IM, or any other film).
I just think that Favreau himself has hurt the chances of Mandarin showing up, with the way he set up the "Ten Rings" in IM1, and the fact that he's done absolutely nothing to reference Mandy specifically in either of his two IM films. The statute of limitations has run out, more or less; if Mandarin ain't in it yet, he ain't gonna be in it ever.
Mandarin has gone without the need for Fin Fang Foom for decades. Foom IS unnecessary. He didn't show up in an Iron Man comic until much later in IM's run. Certainly not in the 60s or 70s or early 80s. It's not like Mandarin and Foom have been inextricably linked to each other since their conception.