Re: The Joker sized elephant in the room
No-one is saying that at all. At the least, Nolan should make it clear the effect that Joker had on the city, because he is that dominant a character, and really 'changed things forever'- As much as Batman did. But he doesn't have to be mentioned in casual conversation, or even by name at all. I'm sure there are more sophisticated ways of perpetuating Joker's influence.
I wonder what Bane thought about him for instance. In any case, I have a strong feeling that he won't be dwelt upon by the Nolan's. He doesn't need to be, but I think it's wrong to completely disregard the character altogether.