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Old 12-07-2011, 11:53 PM   #43
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Default Re: Superman/Clark Kent/Kal-El Characterization - Part 1

Originally Posted by WarriorDreamer View Post
I was just reading the last page and the whole Superman should feel bad/ Superman should laugh it off argument and I think Hopefulsuicide has got the right idea going on. In fact I think you have maybe have got one of the best insights into Superman on here. It's always good to see someone else who actually knows the character and knows what would and wouldn't be appropriate for him.

About the laughing thing... Superman isn't Metro Man, he isn't a caricature and he isn't a cartoon. He is a real life example of what could happen if a man was born on a different planet and was raised and a morally good person by his adoptive parents.

To me the whole thing should feel as real and 'realistic' as possible. That this is what would really happen if a Krytonian was on earth and was raised by good people. I would find Superman less easy to relate to if he didn't care at-all. If having the powers means getting one up on everyone else and he uses his status simply to scare people.
Metro Man is just a well meaning, but egotistical, fame-obsessed dork. There's nothing unrealistic about his personality. The only thing cartoonish about him (his powers) applies equally to Superman.

Originally Posted by WarriorDreamer View Post
To me, I think the fear of who he is should be something that is always deep inside him but that he constantly tries to hide. That becoming Superman is one of the scariest things he could do, but also one of the most liberating.
Why? So we'll pity him? I personally am getting extremely tired of this seemingly mandatory requirement that every character, especially heroes, be made pitiful.

Originally Posted by WarriorDreamer View Post
I think if he found people were scared of him and wanted him gone he wouldn't go off to brood, he wouldn't start crying, he wouldn't laugh in their faces, he would be hurt inside but not let it show then he would continue to try and win over support.

That he shouldn't expect them to accept him straight away but he is willing to wait however long he has to before they accept him.

This has nothing to do with his sense of humor. He still has a good sense of humor, obviously. It's just his acceptance is quite a delicate subject to him.

Anyone can relate who has had something different about themselves and are afraid people won't accept who they are. You don't run off and cry if they don't, but you don't just stand there laughing either (I mean you might, it depends on who you are.) But Superman is a sincere person, he always has been the most sincere hero of all.
There's a great action sequence in Action Comics #21, where Ultra-Humanite sends Superman to rob a jewel from a museum in order to save the life of a doctor Ultra has kidnapped. The police and National Guard attack Superman with everything they've got, from cannons to bomber planes. And throughout it all, Superman is nothing but caustic bravado and mocking wisecracks at their expense. Far from there being many signs that his feelings are hurt at the idea that they think he's a menace that must be stopped or the terrible destruction being wrought over the evil schemes of Ultra, he seems to be enjoying himself a good deal.

Originally Posted by WarriorDreamer View Post
He just wants acceptance.
I'd stick with him just wanting the triumph of truth, justice and the American way.


...and when you find Hop Toad, give him five pieces of gold for his entertaining jest!

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