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Originally Posted by OutRiddled
I didn't say they were facts, but I am doing more to justify my opinion than just saying something like "this is the way it is", etc.
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Then you better pull Messiahdecoy123 into line because he's presenting opinion as fact.
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That's because they are the same character. I know, I said two characters, though duality is the theme here, so Jack Napier and Joker are two sides of the same coin, if you catch my drift.
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I get you, I just don't see much of a difference that's why I think there wasn't a big change about when he turned into Joker.