Originally Posted by metaphysician
So what would he have to do to achieve redemption?
I don't want the Thor movies to end with Loki as a "good guy".
He can have his redemption moment in helping to defeat Surtur, for himself.
But as he said to Black Widow, everything he has done in the past is already there, it CANNOT be redeemed.
Loki should be recognized as an evil sick and twist guy. He can have a redemption arc in 3, and he will. But it won't make him any better a person.
Loki needs to be evil. If the Thor franchise ends with Loki being forgiven, by everyone, by himself, and with him not really...a villain anymore...