Originally Posted by uniqueweasel
And so by that theory of 'using motives' we know the joker was/is motiveless so how can he be used by Bane?? And the same goes for the joker, gotham hadn't got a clue nor Batman as to what he was about to do from one moment to the next. Bane just capitalised on what the Joker had already done to Batman pyschologically from the dark knight
. As for Talia, i'm sure there would be plenty that Bane didn't know about the Joker that he could use against him.
Joker has a plan, Bane does too, he thinks he's in control, Joker turns it on it's head Joker disposes of Bane.
Think we may have to agree to disagree here
What does that have to do with anything?
Joker DOES have a motive and it's spreading chaos,he made it clear to Batman,the police and Gotham's people.Hell Alfred deduced it right off the bat"some men just wanna watch the world burn".Bane's revolution is the fire while Joker is the fuel.Joker will thrive in Bane's Gotham,he will not see Bane as a threat especially since Bane made no mention of crippling the Batman(had he done that then yeah the Joker would have considered Bane enemy no 1 for spoiling his fun).Simply put Bane is deception at it's finest and that deception will prove to be the Jokers undoing.
Bane's plan was blowing Gotham with the nuke which was set to detonate regardless of the trigger man,what exactly is the Joker supposed to do again?
Any direct confrontation will not end well for the Joker,he cannot hire better or more loyal men,he does not have comparable resources and everyone knows he's crazy.Things aint looking good for him against Bane.